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YOUR RESEARCHi like the meguiar's quik detailer
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Yes, but the difference is that you clay bar AFTER you have cleaned the car.
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The Z8 I use on top of my sealant is very nice though.
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washes to moderately clean the car (I'm not talking about a full clean, but let's say that a few days after a wash, you're caught in the rain and pick up a little road grime - or there's a bit of dust from the parking garage - or pollen from some trees)?
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I would never rub anything onto a car that hasn't been cleaned first, because your assumption is correct - any grit will scratch.
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i usually use mother's, but tried the meguiar's on a lark.
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washes to moderately clean the car (I'm not talking about a full clean, but let's say that a few days after a wash, you're caught in the rain and pick up a little road grime - or there's a bit of dust from the parking garage - or pollen from some trees)?
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i'm not entirely sure, but the mother's claybar requires using quick detailer as lubrication for the clay bar, so i assume it provides adequate lubrication.
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i picked up a bottle at target, just to give it a try.
the product is called: meguiar's ultimate quik detailer w/ hydrophobic polymer technology.
it's main claim to fame is that it's a good protectant between wash and wax. it takes 12 hours to cure after spray on/wipe off application. i found that during our mini-monsoon season here in michigan, that water does bead as advertised and i can easily restore the like-washed shine after drying the car.
since i'm planning on refinishing my wheels anyway, i applied some to my wheels as well. found that the brake dust seems to come off more easily in between washings.
and no, i have 0 affiliation with meguiar's or target.
EDIT: i paid $9.99 + tax for a 22 oz./650 ml bottle. so it's pretty cheap.
I'm not sure if it's any different than the old version of the Quick Detailer, but I've had great luck with it for years. It makes the paint feel like glass and makes it easier to remove pollen.
I used to use this product exclusively in the past, and I recently swithched. I REALLY like the mother's quick detailer...it absolutely does not streak and does a great job.
I've been impressed with other Griot's products in the past. Why do you like their detailer better? I might want to give it a try. Is it much more expensive?
the ultimate quick detailer is based on their nxt 2.0, and while I'm all stocked up on detailing product, I will definitely try it when I run out out of Zaino Z8
I think it works better. I think it removes dirt better, smells better, and buffs out better. Price wise it�s about the same. Griot�s spray on wax is also a very good product.
Does this stuff really work without scratching the clear coat? I have never used any of these types of products because I have always assumed that they would lead to scratching.
It seems to me that the dirt and debris on the car would cause scratching when you rub the paint. Does the Quick Detailer really provide adequate lubrication to avoid scratching?
If they work so well why would anyone still wash their car the conventional way? BTW, I am aware of the new no-rinse car wash products and I am skeptical of those as well.
i'm not entirely sure, but the mother's claybar requires using quick detailer as lubrication for the clay bar, so i assume it provides adequate lubrication. also, i think that the concours guys use it as well.
I've always assumed the same thing. I would never rub anything onto a car that hasn't been cleaned first, because your assumption is correct - any grit will scratch.
Yes, but the difference is that you clay bar AFTER you have cleaned the car.
it's funny, because I've been looking at these types of products recently and have not bought any because I came to the conclusion that at best it wouldn't save me any work (because I'd use it after washing) or at worst it would scratch the clearcoat if I used in place of a washing.
I had a real problem with Meguiar's Quik Detailer. When put on a black car with Zaino on it, it causes this oily, greasy mess that won't dry. No matter how much you wipe it with a dry cloth it just sits there and streaks. I didn't notice it in the garage, but out in the sun you see it.
I quit using it now. Smells nice though...
Zaino base plays nice with nothing from what I've experienced
The Z8 I use on top of my sealant is very nice though. I use Optimum no rinse diluted in distilled water in a spray bottle s a quick detailer, and Zaino Z8 after that.
I don't use it on a dirty car. I wash my car, dry it, and then use the quick detailer. As you pointed out any grit will mar the clear coat. I don't use it as a substitute for washing, it just improves the overall look of a clean car.
Meguiar's products are great.
But consider this and its been discussed many times here
before
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Since you're already using the
effort
to use the spray detailer, you should instead consider using their
spray wax
like the spray detailer.
So, pardon my ignorance, but I'm a little confused... People use the quick detailer
after
they wash their cars (like some kind of spray on wax or sealant)? Or do they use it
between
washes to moderately clean the car (I'm not talking about a full clean, but let's say that a few days after a wash, you're caught in the rain and pick up a little road grime - or there's a bit of dust from the parking garage - or pollen from some trees)?
I have a bottle sitting around, but have been afraid to try it... What I have been doing is periodic washes followed by a wipe-on polymer sealant. Keeps the paint pretty shiny and glass smooth.
Griots products are wonderful! They guys there are all down to earth and HUGE car nuts.
The speed shine and spray on wax work awesome, but if you have some more dirt on the car they just came out with a new product call spay on car wash. It is thier own formula and really works great!
They also now have color coded micro fiver clothes so you don't mix the wax clothes with the wash clothes, and the new car wash microfiber clothes are 2x thicker than they were before so they work quite a bit better
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