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Replace 3.4 l engine in my 01 carrera
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I just replaced a 3.4 L engine in my 01 Carrera with 57,000 miles.
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As to the cost, the engine can be replaced by a competent shade-tree mechanic with access to a lift.
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Replace with an '87
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What?!?!.....my 996 is gone and replaced with an '87
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The dealer quoted Chuck Jones $25,000 to repair the damage.
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Repair i'd just walk away
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And if car has suffered any body/paint damage and repair, I'd just walk away.
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I've seen them come up every once in awhile. Factoring the cost of a rebuilt drop-in along with labour and hassle factor, what's a price that makes it attractive to do?
I paid $20,000 for my first project 996 back when they were worth $45,000. The work it required was far more extensive than just replacing the engine. I paid $11,700 for my current 996 project car. It has cost me only about $2,000 for the parts to rebuild it. The labor is another story. If I wasn't doing the work myself, it would not be feasable. The dealer quoted Chuck Jones $25,000 to repair the damage.
As I have found, cars with a story are difficult to resell. I would only tackle a project car, with a blown engine, if the price was around $10-12,000. and you plan on keeping it for a long time.
You need to figure at least $12K for engine/labour, so I would imagine that going price -$15K would be a good place to be. Incidentally, the dealership offered me $10K for my 2001 C4 with a blown engine.
You'll be doing very well if your parts don't exceed $2k, I'm surprised you could control costs so low for our cars. We need to emulate your resourcefulness when replacing 'parts'.
UFO, sorry to hear your troubles with your car, but that's what kind of got me thinking about this. I'm glad to see you got it back up and running. I plan to do as much of the labour myself and count it more as a hobby rather than work.
Mark, great project you've got going on. As many have said, I'm not sure I'd be willing to tackle such a project, but seeing your work is certainly inspiring.
Thanks for your insights. From what I've seen, cars with higher mileage are going for ~$25k. Take $15k off for the new engine and you're sitting at about $10k which seems to be what the salvage/insurance value is for a roller. I've seen cars with blown engines sell for $15-16k, so I guess that's the spread.
So I guess the next question is how easy is it to get a car like this for $10k?
I am the poor white trash of the Porsche world. Bruce, that video was great. I think that car is in my garage. Carol$ the vesuvio 996 is sold to a guy in Atlanta, GA for $22,500. I don't blame you for not wanting a tip. I really enjoyed it, but I'm looking forward to having a stick again.
Spiff, try IAAI...the insurance auto auction. I have bought several vehicles from them. There are tons of fun 996 and 997 project cars for sale nationwide, many have clear titles and no body damage.
https://www.iaai-bid.com/hotpicksintro.aspx
Have fun with that. Personally, if the burden of sourcing and installing another engine falls on me, I'll require a better discount than just the labor and parts.
It would have to be a pretty fabulous C2 for me to pay more than $10k. YMMV.
The engine does not have to be rebuildable to get your core charge back. Porsche only requires that it not have been hydrolocked or damaged in a wreck. Thrown rods through the case are still valid cores.
As to the cost, the engine can be replaced by a competent shade-tree mechanic with access to a lift. It is *not* complicated (as long as you're not trying to update to a 3.6 or 3.8 or similar Frankenstein undertaking. The engines were actually designed to be plug and play. The replacement engines are so complete that they have all of the wiring harnesses and everything else there so you just pop em in and plug up two pigtails and fire her up (well maybe there were a couple updated parts that had to be backdated from the old engine).
BTW, this is the voice of experience. We swapped mine out (after 126k miles) going slowly over the course of about a day and half of work. Also put in a LWF and new clutch (and should have done the slave cylinder).
the cost of factory sourced replacement engine (assume if there is a core charge you'll have to pay it because the existing engine will not satisfy the core charge) installed by this dealer and then subtract this amount from what the car would sell for normally.
Minus something for your troubles.
IOWs, even if rest of car in pristine condition, and a dealer installed engine sourced from the factory would be all that is necessary to get this car back on the road and trouble free for many many thousands of miles, I'd not pay any premium for the car.
And I'd in fact 'charge' the current owner for my time/troubles to go through getting car back on road with new engine. (What will for instance getting the car to the dealership for a new engine cost in flatbedding charges?)
And you have to be careful. With engine blown you can't start engine and test rest of car's engine subsystems, drivetrain, brakes, A/C, heater, and so on.
What you need to guard against, receive something to mitigate the risk of this car not only having a blown engine but perhaps a tranny that's on its way out, is to get the car for a price that say if after you got a new engine installed you shortly learn thereafter the transmission's shot, or the clutch needs replacement, etc., this would not be a big deal and because you factored something else into your offer, or reduction of your offer, you still have a car that is costing your a reasonable price, comparable if you had found an identical car in need of no work, servicing, repair, etc.
The risk, in my opinion, should be borne by the seller, or if he's unwilling to meet your price then by some other buyer who's not as savvy.
And if car has suffered any body/paint damage and repair, I'd just walk away.
Now if you're really sharp about being able to evaluate a car, you can factor that in to your offer/adjustment relying upon your skills to know nothing else serious is lurking in the car, hidden so to speak by the fact the engine's not running and the car can't be thoroughly checked out before hand.
Sincerely,
Macster.
I just replaced a 3.4 L engine in my 01 Carrera with 57,000 miles. The dealer price in Va Beach was $8,400 plus 5% tax including core exchange and the labor for engine replacement is about 13 hours in the book. My work was not done at the dealership. The warranty for the rebuild is two years unlimited miles. If the dealership does the work, then labor is also included in the two year period. My engine was in fact brand new in every way and of course the new engine has some upgrades which were not on my old car.
