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Install heated seat switches are in my friends 04 boxster
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that is where the factory installed heated seat switches are in my friends 04 Boxster
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I was looking at how my shift linkage could be adjusted so I needed to remove my console anyway.
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I often thought it would be fun to replace the shift **** with the top portion of the control stick from an A-6 Intruder, which has lots of buttons compared to even other military aircraft.
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I have one of those big fat GT3 carbon fibre *****, and it is fixed in place with an allen head set screw.
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Once the horseshoe is off, then you use a small screwdriver to spring down two small tabs between the top of the A/C vents and the dash.
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I often thought it would be fun to replace the shift **** with the top portion of the control stick from an A-6 Intruder, which has lots of buttons compared to even other military aircraft.
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It didn't help that it was getting on 11 pm and I was working in my carport.
What's involved with deleting the centre console? That's the one with the cd holders right?
I see and hear about a centre console delete "kit" but what does this kit include, and where would I get one? Couldn't I just remove the console, move the heated seat switches up to the upper console and robert is your fathers brother?
Thanks.
i put it in my car. it is great, provides room for my leg in front of the shifter.
you have to remove the center console (takes about 20 min even if you dont know what you are doing). need TOREX tools.
while you are at it, you might as well put in a short shifter kit.
i did. big improvement.
yes, nice mod as it frees up leg room (my leg used to rub against the console and I developed an irritation in that spot). The only issue is if you want to install a full screen stereo/nav system...you would have to then find a location for the a/c controls (glovebox?)
OK - I think I get it now.
The question wasn't so much whether I should do it or not, the question was what does the "kit" include. I guess I was asking if I could remove the console with spending the money on the kit.
Yes - the problem is that my leg rubs against it too. Irritating as hell. I'm a big enough guy that I need as much rom as I can get.
A full screen/nav is the last thing I would want to install in my car so no worries there. Looking forward to this mod actually.
right. is see what i wrote. funny
what i meant to say, is that to install it, you have to get the entire center console out to gain access to 2 bolts at the front of the center console into which the "center console delete" piece is held down.
then one re-installs the long center console.
i will take some photos of the completed job and post them later.
roy
2002 c4s
THe kit comes with a piece of molded, foam-backed carpet and a plastic trim item, both of which you will need unless you want a big gaping hole showing a bunch of wires and sheetmetal. I've done this install and it is awesome. Really improves the look & feel of the interior.
Cool - I looked on the Suncoast website and it really looks nice, sort of retro like the old 911's. So what does it leave you with: radio & environmental controls only?
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Thanks Roy - I think the issue is that you're referring to the shifter console as the centre console. That's what I thought it was called too, but apparently that's called the rear console. The centre console is the one under the radio...the one that's being deleted.
At least that's what I think.
Thanks for the detail though.
Jasper, our parts guy ( KJ ) said you called wanting to order the kit and they couldn't find the part #.
I found it and gave it to them, for others looking for it try:
Porsche 996 Console Delete Kit
986-552-113-02-A10 Console Lining Black
986-552-241-02-A03 Trim Black
Yup - I ordered it in. He was wondering why I would do this and the answer is
1) Aesthetics - look great IMO
2) My leg pushes up against the centre console something fierce.
Thanks for the help Rob.
On my 1999 coupe, I have already deleted the cassette holder by putting in the cubby. I find the extra storage to be very convenient. But I also like the openess of the full delete, and my right knee would enjoy that extra space.
My question to those who have completed this mod is this:
My car has the heated seats buttons on the bottom of that console that would be deleted. One answer has already been stated to put them in the upper console in some of those blanks. But I wonder, could they be put on the floor console in the two blanks behind the ashtray, opposite the window controls?
On a lighter side, I believe I would be tempted to "do" something with that flat face of the console delete piece, like make a military aircraft-looking switch plate full of dials, toggle switches, buttons and colored lights. None of it would actually do anything. But the lables could read like:
"ARM", "Release". "Night", "Station" (rotory dial with 4 or 5 numbers), "Intercept", and a ton of other fun stuff. I would forego the the obvious James Bond stuff like "Eject" and "Missles" as being far too obvious.
Or all the stuff on an F1 steering wheel...
Could be a direct take-out from something in the desert at Davis-Monthan AFB. I often thought it would be fun to replace the shift **** with the top portion of the control stick from an A-6 Intruder, which has lots of buttons compared to even other military aircraft.
Sorry for diverting the thread. I will shut up now.
I reckon that would be a pretty easy mod. Not sure why "everyone" puts them on the horseshoe. I understand the wires are long enough to move the switches up top so can't see why they wouldn't be long enough to go down below.
We'll see I suppose. I'm thinking to delete this console even before I get the kit so I can get that room for my leg.
I'm with you. Radios don't need to be anywhere near as big as they are. Either an iPod jack, or an iPod built in to the car anywhere would be more than enough. Like wise the climate control.
It's not so far in the future that of which you speak methinks.
man that pic looks clean!! however i brace my leg against the center console during aggressive driving. My factory seats just arnt bolstered enough.
have any of you guys heard of 996's that didnt come with PSM? mine is 2001 and does not have a PSM switch. (im a thread hijacker) sorrry
Yes, well thanks for the "help" lads. Someone somewhere has told me to prise off the two side panels on the leading edge of the rear console and go from there. So that's what I'll do.
Seems to me that I should snap a few photos and a scribble a few words when I do this for the benefit of the next guy.
I work at a Laser company and we have some really cool labels if you would like some small warning style I can grab one or two for you - I would love to see that done !
thats Catherine bell, yes shes hot, no not my car, yes in my deams.
yes a front and rear mounted laser is the ticket, just powerfull enough to blow out a tire..
Jasper, if you haven't done the delete installation yet, here are some instructions to follow.
http://gallery.rennlist.com/gallery/albuq44
You'll need a 10mm wrench (preferably a ratcheting box-end) and a torx driver (can't recall the size, but it's common).
The toughest part is finding all of the screws (don't forget the one under the little finned plastic coin holder in the rear console compartment) and removing the metal bracket from the old lower console. In addition to the console delete you'll probably need the Upper AC Surround Trim, part # 9965526770001C
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Jobs a good'un. Too dark for pics, but it looks just like the pics already posted of course. A few notes for the guys doing this mod in the future:
*note the rear console is the one between the seats, the centre console is the one under the radio.
1) There are three screws in the storage compartment under the arm rest. One screw holds in a bottom plate, one in the right front corner, and one screw under the coin holder. This one is different than *all* the rest. It has a flatter head to allow the coin holder to fit into it's little slot. Remember this when you put it all back together.
2) My car has the ashtray delete option. The two torx screws in the bottom of this little cubby are plastic expanding plug thingies, not screws. Once these are removed, you can snap the cubby out, there's a single torx screw under it.
3) Remove the shifter boot by just yanking up carefully. There's one last screw at the leading edge of the rear console. I have one of those big fat GT3 carbon fibre *****, and it is fixed in place with an allen head set screw. I removed this ****, but my understanding is that the stock ***** are pressed on and are difficult to remove.
4) Removing the whole rear console makes it a whole lot easier to remove the centre console. If you can get your **** off then it's worth removing the rear console. If you can't get your **** off it makes it a bit more difficult. I was looking at how my shift linkage could be adjusted so I needed to remove my console anyway. If you're removing the rear console you will have to snap off the side panel by the parking brake.
5) You have to remove the side panels of the centre (not rear) console next. These snap off with a fair bit of force required. There's two screws on each side of the centre console. Remove these screws and it's easy to remove the centre console after that. If you have heated seats you will need to remove the small panel which holds the switches. This just pops off too, no fasteners involved.
6) There's a steel bracket bolted to the floor just in front of the shifter to which the centre console was screwed. You'll need to remove that. It's held down by four locking nuts which are a bear to unscrew.
7) By far the trickiest bit is to relocate the heated seat switches. The wires are only *just* long enough, and you have to remove the A/C vents and radio/HVAC controls in order to fed the wires through. Even then I had to splice in a length of wire...there might be an easier way, but it sure wasn't obvious to me if there is.
8) To disassemble the dash, first remove the horseshoe shaped bezel. Once again it's clipped in place, not screwed, so you *just* have to pull it off. I started at the bottom right, wedged a credit card under it and worked my way around.. Once the horseshoe is off, then you use a small screwdriver to spring down two small tabs between the top of the A/C vents and the dash. The vents slide straight out ez after that. The radio and HVAC controls are set in a frame, which is fastened to the dash by four torx screws. Undo those screws and the frame holding these two components also slides out. I left the wires plugged into the back of the electronic gear...
9) To feed the wires through, undo as much of the tape holding the heated switch wire loom together as you can, the two bundles leading to each switch are all taped together. You have to make two separate bundles, one for each side and tape each of those together to keep it tidy and to protect the wire from chaffing on the sharp edges behind the radio. There is one blue wire which runs between the two switches, I don't know it's function, but it wasn't long enough for me to have a switch on either side of the horseshoe so I had to splice about 8 inches of new wire into it. Once you have the two bundles made up, crawl up under your dash with a flashlight and find the snake hole. It is only *just* big enough for the plugs at the end of each wire bundle. This was the least pleasant part of the job. It didn't help that it was getting on 11 pm and I was working in my carport.
After all that, the reassembly was pretty easy, the reverse of the above of course.
Well worth it lads. More leg room, cool retro looking dash.All that for $162, and about three hours of my time.
sorry, am a lurker here-as considering with cobra sold 996 as dd.
interesting posting (console delete)....takes you very close to 964 or 993 series style (964's had more leather).....mine
present 92 turbo look C2 (America Roadster)-garage queen
gone but not forgotten:
04 Cobra modified(575rwHP)
03Alfa GTA
02 Alfa 147
other American Muscle (all modified)
gone & forgotten
2 BMW's (overpriced, underpowered) & so-so build quality
I did this mod and love it.
Bonus tip for those with black interiors: Carnewal sells the front trim piece in covered in black leather. Sadly, not graphite.
yup - definitely part of the attraction although I must stress the console was absolutely killing my leg, so this mod was 90% about comfort. I love my 996, but I have never been al that happy about the position of the steering wheel in particular. It sits too low in my lap. A rake adjustment *up* would be dandy.
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