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Macster, the Porsche was not being used enough to keep it.
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Maybe that's why he wants to get a bike so he can change his image.
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He looked pissed, shaking his head and fist in the air.....but didnt try and run the van down (smart) - I drove home thinking....
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Why would you sell a perfectly fine C4S -- hardly used IIRC -- and then replace it with a motorcycle?
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As some of you know, after I sold my C4S, I got the hots for a new toy. So, I have been obsessed with getting a motorcyle. I haven't driven one in years, but a ride through the Utah canyons on my friend's BMW 1200GS convinced me I had to have one (at least a neat starter bike like a 450-650cc cycle). So, I'm taking a safety course in 2 weeks, and am (was) planning on going to the Philadelphia Motorcyle Expo next week. However, after after looking at the ad for the show, I'm just not sure I'm cut out for this. Tattoos, southern rock bands, and what's not listed, PIG RACES!
I have the feeling that this won't be "my crowd." I'm a 60 year old pediatrician for chrissakes. I don't want to sound like a snob, but I'm wavering on this. I really don't want to die either on a bike, or at the show. Could any of you do this?
http://phillyexpos.com/motorcycle_expo/index.html
Unfortuntely Phil, I would love a bike too. But it is not really the bike riders as much as the other drivers on the road that are usually the problem. They drive way to close, and there really is just too many cars and SUVs in the northeast to worry about. So I figured the next best thing is a 911 cab. You really get the open road feeling with cab, and with a TT, you get a little close the acceleration
Nah, not my thing anymore... and if it was I would be more of the sport bike crowd. Just to populated around here for a bike.
But Phil, are we assuming the Bike would leave the garage?
Ha!
Bikes are great, but it is dangerous on the roads, just be careful.
I have a friend about 75 who goes on long rides, he's got some kind of Japanese v-twin style, even puts his 70 year old girlfriend on the back.
Oh yeah, they wiped out on a cross-country ride, spent time in some hospital in TN, but they're riding again, gotta love it.
Good luck Phil, follow your dream, you can always sell the bike.
Or just park it in the garage.
You see, that's my concern. I spend enough time in the hospital now. I don't want to see it as a patient.
And Marc, I would take it out of the garage, but really use it on weekends or evenings for back road drives, not as a commuter or to ride along I95. I think I will follow through with the course, and then see whether the fire is still lit for me to actually go out and get one of these damned things. If I do, I think the Triumph Bonneville will have to wait - my first bike would be used and smaller.
Not my kind of scene either Phil.
I've never understood the Harley crowd - those things are not real bikes... what do they call them, ape hangers?
Anyway, for me it would have to be something Japanese and sporty.
Phil, yes you can do that as long as you............ put a bandanna over your hair, part your beard in the middle and tie the two ends of the beard with a rubber band, and wear some old blue jeans and a shirt with the sleeves cut off.... yes, you can do this!
Damn, I wish I could find that picture of you that Wayne posted a while back. I could photo shop it to show you how ridicul.... er, cool you would look!
Tim,
I'm not sure I'm evil enough to post photos of Phil knowing that you'll just photoshop them and make him look like Cheech Marin on a motorcycle.
...okay, I lied.
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I imagine the BMW crowd is a little different than the Harley crowd, but it still might not be your thing. Have you had leather pants on lately?
Get a 911 Cab! If you bought one that already had high mileage - something crazy like 10,000 miles, then maybe you wouldn't feel too bad about taking it out once in a while!
Give it a try. I have been riding this 2005 BMW R1200RT for the past 3 years (2 trips to Cali, once to Denver, once to Sipapu, NM and once to Branson, MO from San Antonio). Heading for Newfoundland next year. BTW - I'm 56 and the Honda is my other bike.
Hey Phil, I'm a 60 y/o guy too....I have 2 Harleys and my Garage Queen is a 2000 Road King and is for sale (it is looking for a new garage to grow roots in) BTW it has 4700 miles, sound like your kind of milage!
Sorry Phil, I have been reading all the digs your so called "friends" bestow upon you, and I could not help myself...
Your new "friend" Stew
Why would you sell a perfectly fine C4S -- hardly used IIRC -- and then replace it with a motorcycle?
Don't be too worried about the crowd. Lots of professionals into motorcycles now. H-D has really made a killing selling tricked out hogs to these people. I refer to this modern crop of hog riders as Chopper Chucks. Bad to their untanned skin.
Be more worried about getting on the road with all the distracted drivers. I rode a motorcycle for years and every once in a while consider buying one (my leaning is towards a nice air cooled BMW twin) then I see another butthead driver in a car or other 4-wheeled vehicle drifting from lane to lane while talking on a cell phone. And cell phone usage while driving is illegal here!
Every week day on the way to or from work I hear another traffic report of another motorcycle/vehicle accident. Almost all involve injury and sometimes death of the motorcycle rider.
No thanks.
Sincerely,
Macster.
Absolutely gorgeous bikes. Not ready for either of those (yet) but I'll let everyone know if I go for a bike, and if so, which one.
Macster, the Porsche was not being used enough to keep it. I don't see a motorcycle as a replacement for the Porsche, just a toy I've been wanting for a while. Not doing anything yet other than taking the course - then I'll make a decision.
Phil,
What? you want to live forever?? DO IT!!
I have been riding for 35 years, currently 1998 BMW R1100RT.
Look at the Suzuki SV650. It is a relatively small, agile “standard” that you won't grow out of it as soon as you start to ride.
Get yourself a dirt bike. Way more fun and involving than a street bike. Better scenery, more thrills (at much lower speeds), and with single track riding no cars to run you over.
Cheers,
Joe
Phil,
How about something with a side-car??
I dunno...take the class and see if ur still crazy about the idea.
Oh, and get a DEXA scan before you buy, motorcycles and osteoporosis don't mix.
Phil,
you live in the US where there is only one brand of bike to consider: MV Agusta!
Not really a beginner friendly bike, but after you get some experience on a smaller displacement bike and feel comfortable (look at sv650's, ninja500's, cbr600 f4i's, ducati monster 696's and other stuff maybe to start out on), you should give them a look. In canada they're not legal otherwise i'd own one in a heartbeat.
There are some good and informal groups of motorcyclists in the Phila. area, including:
www.philadelphiariders.com
When you tell people you ride, the first thing they ask is if you have a Harley. You just have to be patient with them.
(Nothing against Harleys, they just don't address most of what I like about motorcycles very well.) My garage currently has bikes from Germany (West and East), Italy, Austria and England.
A few thoughts on some prior posts:
-You are right to think small for a first bike. I think it makes learning easier and safer. That said, I think it makes sense to get something with decent suspension and brakes. I know several folks who started out on SV650s. A bigger & more powerful bike than I started on, but may suit you. I think the new Bonneville is worth a look as well. Stop in at Manyaunk Triumph. The owner, Buzz, has instructed MSF courses for many years.
-MV Agusta is a very special motorcycle, but not something for the beginner. If you want an Italian bike that's good for a beginner look at the Moto Guzzi 750 Breva or V7 Classic. Ferracci in Willow Grove is a Guzzi dealer, so you can drool on the MV Agustas while you're there.
-Dirt bikes. jmarch makes some excellent points. After many years of street riding I started dirt (dual sport) riding. Some of my best riding experiences of late have been off road. Its basically replaced track days for me.
Thanks for the tips - I will check out the Willow Grove dealer (and the Agustas) and the website. A scooter is definitely OUT!! They're a bit creepy, even for me.
+1... I just spent the weekend in Utah on my dirtbike and Joe is absolutely correct. Much more physically demanding, unbelievable scenery and no traffic to 'play with'. You might be geographically-challenged for endless singletrack trails, however...just buy one and keep it out West where it can be used.
Phil, I predict you'll be just as safe looking at a bike sit in your garage as you were looking at a Porsche in the garage....
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jk of course. Saftey is a definate concern with motorcycles. Be safe if you get one.
pulled out of work today, the first light is a double turn lane (left) got around the corner and a van in front of me moved from the inside lane to the outside lane and pushed a motorcycle right off the road....just kept right on driving....
He looked pissed, shaking his head and fist in the air.....but didnt try and run the van down (smart) - I drove home thinking.... yep, my wife was right, too dangerous anymore
on the way home I counted 6 cars in a row pass me with people talking on the cell phone and 1 typing on one, and one ? reading one. (we have a no cell phone while driving law too)
I think all of you are trying to protect me from myself. I take that as a sign of friendship and concern. I still will likely take the course but may decide it's just nuts to get a bike. If I do, Philly would be the LAST place I'd ride. Now, Bucks County on a Sunday morning would be fun (and safer).
if you find the streets are not for you, you could always just ride at the track. no cops, no crazy drivers of various stereotypes, nothing to really whack into, plenty of room to slide if you come off...and race bikes are super cheap
Getting hit by a car is one danger (a very real danger). But I think as you get older, even putting a bike down due to a balancing mistake could cause serious injury. Who needs it??
if it makes you feel better, go take a look at a full race suit (1 piece) and a separate race spine protector like the dianese or knox units. it'll make you feel much better. they ain't yer poppa's leathers.
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