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Exhaust and suspension are probably the only two on the "important list" now that you have SSK.

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Replace stock mufflers

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I'd only replace the stock mufflers for a better sound & to shed a few pounds.

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I'd only replace the stock mufflers for a better sound & to shed a few pounds.

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Run richer now due

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Which my Mechanic says is because it's running richer now due to the engine getting more air and less back pressure.

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I'd only replace the stock mufflers for a better sound & to shed a few pounds.

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Which my Mechanic says is because it's running richer now due to the engine getting more air and less back pressure.

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Exhaust and suspension are probably the only two on the "important list" now that you have SSK.

new to water cooled;need mod advice
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

after owning 2 930s an sc and carrera, i finally pulled the trigger and stepped up to 996c4s...great car, but i would like some mod advice, 1) are headers worth the investment or are the stock manifolds good enough with muffler mods. do i need headers with 02 sensor bung? intake side; is the aftermarket plenum from road and sport supply worth the investment, what about cold air intake? does the engine need to be re-mapped(?) what about chipping the motor? what brand? do mods need to be done 1st before chip? will dash lights come on with these mods? what about the relatively cheap headers imported from asia found on ebay. i am installing b&m shifter this wknd, its got to be an improvement...did i miss anything? im open to any and all suggestions thanks , kevin

POST 2Original post

Lots of questions there Im also new to the C4S... would love to know answers to many of the items you inquired about as well. I had planned to install the B&M with Evo link this weekend as well... must be an improvment -lol. Lets see some pics of your new beauty!

POST 3Original post

There are many more expert people than me, but the consensus seems to be that mods to N/A engine have pretty small impacts for the money invested (although a nice intake/exhaust will SOUND great, which is fair enough). If you're still on stock suspension, you may find the best investment is $1-4k on one of the various upgrade possibilities - a search will give you lots of impassioned arguments in favour of each of the various options (M030, PSS9, X73/X74, etc)

POST 4Original post

+1 on NNH's comments. Engine mods on the NA 996 do little to improve, and any improvements come at a cost of decreased performance in some other aspect. Maybe an SC, then the airway and exhaust with mapping will work with it. Too much for too little, though, IMHO. Might as well get a turbo from the get-go. Otherwise, the best bang for true performance enhancement is suspension, then brakes.

POST 5Original post

No first hand experience here (except the MKI mod on my cans) but from reading other's post, it would take doing ALL the mods (CAI, IPD, headers, mufflers, chip/tune) to feel any noticeable gains.

POST 6Original post

Enjoy your P-car as it is, and buy a turbo if you need a bunch more power!

POST 7Original post

Quotes source post: 5626090

I agree, I've done all the mods with the exception of headers and cats. There has been no improvement except for the sound. I have much higher oil consumption. Which my Mechanic says is because it's running richer now due to the engine getting more air and less back pressure. On the track I have a well known spot where I record my speeds. Since all the mods were done there has been no difference. SC in my opinion is the only option to make a real noticeable improvement. Probably also reduces the engine life as well.

POST 8Original post

Exhaust and suspension are probably the only two on the "important list" now that you have SSK.

POST 9Original post

B&M shifter is a huge improvement. Engine mods are a complete waste of money. Been there, done that. I'd only replace the stock mufflers for a better sound & to shed a few pounds. Suspension is a good place to spend some cash.

POST 10Original post

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What he said. Also, the driver is really the best improvement path bar none. One note, do not install an aftermarket instake (K/N snorkel for example). We have a whole shelf dedicated to the one's we've removed all of which are sitting next to the blown MAF from the same car.

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