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He said most Guys flip to stock pads after DE, but some run on the street with the 97....
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My frends run stuff on there race bikes and they move....
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Hmmm, I have been eying these for awhile but was afraid of using the 97s on the street.
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From what I understand, you cannot use any pad other than PFC with the Direct Drive 2-piece rotors.
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When I ran at Laguna Saca last month, I met the owner of FDR Motorsports This is were I got them.
http://www.fdrmotorsports.com/
I spent 371.42 each for the front, I found them on the net little less. but....$ less does not always mean good deal in my book...FDR has been A BIG HELP!
Jerry
Chad
From what i understand Yes, But I have been told that the 97 is mild enough to run on the street and if so I might not switch out....I will have to see for my self.
What I have to say so far PF packs their break pads like they are glass!! lots of padding
Jerry
Just got off the phone with Mike at Performance Friction,
He said most Guys flip to stock pads after DE, but some run on the street with the 97.... so stock works
As for the rear FF he said he is getting some calls for the need but not enough as of yet to make new "jig"
Hope this answered some questions, here is a link
http://www.performancefriction.com/pages/about_pfc.htm
Jerry
I know I was banging my head when he said that!!!!
I ask how many orders do you need....no answer
You call him..... everybody call him [phone removed] I hit #3 then they gave the phone mike
Jerry
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I just got the PF dimpled rotors for my 996 (track instructor) and wondered if you had put your setup on the track yet and what you thought???
p.s. I would buy rears too, I was holding off on getting stock rears until I talked to PF... not enough interest??? huh? I would think at least 60-70% of those who bought the fronts would buy rears too ....
Jerry, just a couple questions and a couple comments.
1. Where did you get the complete front setup for a GT3 for $371 per side??? Or is this for a base 996? **I assumed GT3 form the avatar**
2. What are the rears? Stock or PFC?
3. From what I understand, you cannot use any pad other than PFC with the Direct Drive 2-piece rotors. That's ok for me as I love the PFC pad and tried it on stock rotors first before moving to the PFC rotor.
4. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but they are NOT free floating rotors. The dimpled rotors are NOT the motorsport version which does float. The hardware is different to allow it to float and the pricing is about $850 a side to start and then $525 for replacement rotor and hardware (See post #15 of this
THREAD
as I have run both and offer a FULL explanation as to the differences).
Dell,
1 the PFC are for my C4 Cab, and I got them from FDR Motorsports
2 Rears are stock
3 This is ok for me as well
4 I did not know that there were 2 types, but looking at them you can see that they are not "free floating"
I will install on GT3 soon..... other mods are in front of the brakes
Jerry
I figured as much Jerry after looking at the pics you posted more closely (and the forum
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The differences I explain in the thread link I posted. Regardless, the non-motorsport setup is still fantastic! FYI..."looking" at them won't tell you much as you can't tell the difference between the dimpled and slotted setups just by looking. When you pick them up you can feel the movement and the "clinking" sound of the floating design.
See ya over in the GT3 forum
Hmmm, I have been eying these for awhile but was afraid of using the 97s on the street. I'm gonna call Performance Friction as well 'cause if I can switch to the stock pads that would be sweet!
Ya Dell,
Thats what I meant, it dose not move. My frends run stuff on there race bikes and they move....
I will get the other ones for the GT3
I am glade you posted in this thread, I might have not purchased the right ones
I must say that the PCCB are a trip on the track.... so different than the PF on my C4
Jerry
justin,
I have the 97 in the C4 and I do not like them on the street, the work well just noisy
I need to pull off the rotors and put stock back on....that car will not see a track now
Dell
That is too true "separation of money", My wife has been a trooper.... I thought, what is she going to say, when I pull the inside out for a cage...
Jerry
Dragging this thread up again...
Does anyone have weight info between stock and PFC? Doing a search brings up that the PFC are heavier than stock, is this correct?
Thanks...
Thanks, that's for the '3' discs though which are (IIRC) different construction and weights.
The PFC 996 C2 rotor weights are what I'm searching for. No supplier is willing or able to give values, very frustrating!
Edited to say - Found the info, the PFC rotors are 9.2kg each or 20.3lbs, ie what's the point in changing if they're heavier? Think I'll stick with the OEM and save some cash...
My apologies Devrish. I spend my time between the GT3 forum and the 996 fourm and thought I was on the GT3 forum.
I agree, why change if they are heavier! WIth that said, if they are comparable in price and would last longer then if the weight is negligible then it might be worth it,
Talked to a PF employee. If you guys are serious, it would take an order of 10 sets to get a run. You just need a vendor to organize it.
Update from the horse's mouth:
Checked, we've looked at 996 rear rotors and can't fit a 2pc drive
system in the size envelope, so we won't be making them. Whether
that'd allow for a rear setup that eliminates parking brake, who
knows, but the market has to tell us first that that's acceptable.
It's not without precedent, we've done it on the NSX.
-Jon
