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1st of all, it was the CHL instructor who said this.
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I removed my rear seats and installed a gun-rack back there.
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But since I use the car occasionally to take kids to and from school, I can't legally have a firearm in it anyway.
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I think that has been pretty well proven to be a myth.
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However, I would not think twice about using deadly force against any deadly threat against my family.
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It's the posters legal right to carry a gun in the US, but the poster's response demonstrates deep immaturity in the responsibility and appropriate use of weapons.
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Does anybody carry a handgun in their 996? If so, where do you place it? Anybody have an interior mounted holster type carry that works effectively?
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I carry mine in my little door pocket - I have a CCW of course - .44 SPCL, 5-speed revolver, BullDog Pug. In VA you can actually carry it 'Open" without a CCW!!!! Someday when I hit my mid-to-late 60's, I'll carry one of my nickle plated .45's in a hand-tooled holster on my hip and wear a nice Pendleton flannel wool shirt over my jeans and Luchesse boots with my Resistol 10X beaver fur silverbelly on top. Now that's living....
In Texas, you can now carry a gun in your vehicle without a CHL. As a CHL holder, I have carried one for years; long before the recent law changes. Remember that we have a saying, "don't mess with Texas."
I wear and in-the-waistband holster a lot. Since I have Euro GT3 seats, I tend to shift it forward and up for access. If I don't have to carry on my person, I usually carry a smaller gun (9mm AMT Backup, Sig P239 or HK P7 PSP) in the driver's door pocket. I will keep it in a loose fitted, padded holster. It is very easy to get out. Occassionally, I carry a larger gun (P220, Kimber 5" CDP, Webley .45 or Sig X-Five Tac) on the floor between the seat and the trunk release. In this case, I lay it in an open pistol rug.
Jesus ****ing christ you guys - off topic much?
I mean I think it's great you guys are packing and all but really it's not tech and although I love shootin' em up as much as the next guy I don't think it's appropriate for a family Porsche forum.
Sorry guys - canadian rant off.
The hold up?
Rick Perry blows a lot of hot air about secession, but then he goes home and fires up his calculator and realizes he still needs the Federal Gov't for FEMA hurricane disaster handouts or The Splintered State of Texas will go broke.
I wouldn't keep a gun in my car simply in case the car is stolen. I would hate to have my gun used in a crime. I WOULD like James Bond machine guns built into the headlight washers though, to make use of the useless headlight washer switch (back on topic?)!
Another Texan chiming in...I usually wear a "belly band" when I am out and about. I would not carry if the only place I could do so was in my car. With the belly band I dont have to worry about relocating the weapon from a pouch or pocket to my persons once i leave the vehicle because it is always on me...I would be very hesitant to leave the weapon in the car when left unattended. Galco offers a wide range of styles.
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I carry a Ruger LCP in my pocket all the time. It's a little tight in the 930/ 993 but it's not too bad. I suppose it would be fine in a larger 996 etc.
I don't need to carry a gun...I carry one because i am allowed to under the 2nd amendment...This is waaaay off topic, BUT...there are bad people out there (for real... i am not paranoid)...I want just as much of a chance to prevent them from doing me and my family harm as they have to do harm to me...you never know what lies in wait for you the next time you are at a traffic light, or parking lot. Imagine the surprise on the would be robbers face when you pull out a "Gat" and turn the situation around in your favor..."it's better to have and not need, than to need and not have"
Car jackings!
SA had a lot about a decade ago and in Houston, it is common still today.
Oh yeah, it also dissolves road rage. You bluff by pulling the gun out
(not aiming of course!!!!!!!!!!)
, show the other dude, and hopefully things settle right there.
You are actually taught this in CHL training.
1. This is not off topic. It is about where to store a handgun in a 996 if you have one in there. What is going off topic is discussing why people carry guns, not where they carry in this particular vehicle. The topic is legitimate, many of the responding posts are not.
2. I seem to recall they team American History in elementry schools, which includes the Bill of Rights and the US Constitution. There is nothing wrong discussing the LEGAL ownership and use of a legal right on a public forum, regardless of age group.
Marlon,
I'm movin to WV the end of the month, I have the Luchesse Boots, jeans, flannel wool shirt. I just need to trade in one of my modern pieces on one of them big ol' revolvers. I'm gonna love it there! Yeeeeehaaaaaawwwww
If you had a good CHL instructor he/she would have told you that is against the law but that can be discussed on another forum.
I think most people that have a CHL take it VERY serious. This is a LAST resort but it is alway better to be prepared.
Why would you need a gun to prevent car jackings? If someone wants your car bad enough. Let them steal it. That's what insurance is for. By no means if a piece of metal worth your life(or others around you) by you letting your ego get to you and trying to be a tough guy and prevent a car jacking when you family is with you.
Stockton,CA is notorious for car jackings and car theft....people don't carry guns around there. Car theft is on a rise in the U.S.(so are other crimes with the economy how it is), just make sure you have insurance.
Pulling a gun on someone to prevent road rage? What happens if the other person has a gun as well?
"Oh yeah, it also dissolves road rage. You bluff by pulling the gun out"...
Bluffing with a gun as a response to traffic disagreement? It's the posters legal right to carry a gun in the US, but the poster's response demonstrates deep immaturity in the responsibility and appropriate use of weapons.
1st of all, it was the CHL instructor who said this. I have never done it.
2nd, how do you know I am irresponsible? I grew up with guns.....I am from the country afterall
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I see several owners here discussing a valid and perfectly legal topic as it relates to their 996's, and a few others getting their panties in a wad because they don't like the topic.
I'd agree that if someone wants to start a "pro" or "anti" gun thread, OT is the proper forum for that.
This thread does not fall into either category, because as I see it none of the original posters were trying to force their opinion on anyone else (as some of the later posters clearly are). If you have an agenda "pro" or "anti" why not start your own thread in P&C or the Firearm and Accesories forum?
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Everyone that doesn't like the topic, just pretend that someone is looking to store a "gun-shaped" item in their 996 within easy reach of the driver. Where's a good place to do this?
I was pretty serious, and maybe my use of foul language was an attempt to get the thread locked.
I'm settled down now, but seriously guys, if my wife cuts someone off by accident and that guy starts waving a gun around I would see that as a major problem.
Here in Western Canada guns on the street are still pretty rare. Sure we get the odd gang fight when one low life executes another, but regular guys driving Porsches and carrying guns? Not a ****ing chance.
Sorry to be taking the high road here - but I see this as a *good* thing. I reckon tings are pretty messed up when you think you have to carry a gun in your car. I could see doing this if I lived in Russia or somewhere else where people are poor and drink too much, but in a proper civilized country....that's not good.
But whatever...I guess I should take my own advice and not follow threads I don't approve of. No harm no foul eh? Don't go hunting me down and putting a cap in my *** or anything, just an opinion - don't mean nuthin' by it...
Dude- How about instances (in my line of work) where I am carrying $20,000 (sometimes more) in cash ?? There are certain times where I absolutely NEED to carry a weapon.
If you would feel comfortable driving around MLK BLVD in cities like Houston or Atlanta in a Porsche with valuables or cash- I won't criticize you for being naive .... but I happen to recognize the dangers and risks involved, and take certain precautions because of them.
Unfortunately, as Porsche has continued to pack so much into these cars, it's becoming increasingly difficult to accommodate a handgun easily within the cockpit of the later cars. Prior to 1989 there were many places to put a handgun that made it easy to get to, yet essentially out of sight. The forward map pockets on the wheelwells comes to mind. I used to keep a .357 Blackhawk in there in the 70s. I attempted to pursue an inquiry with Porsche on such a capability on my latest car but being where I'm from, the sales staff didn't forward my request to Zuffenhausen. I think it's best to consider a custom shop for that sort of stuff. It should be someone very familiar with the size of your handgun(s) and the interior of a 911. Back in the 1970s B&B in Frankfurt did that for a client from S. America. It was in a tray beneath the dash,--but there was knee room in those days.
Quite honestly,--do you think anyone is going to tell you where they keep their handgun in such a public forum?
P.S. We may open carry in California,--in unincorporated areas. it's rarely seen because most are unaware of their rights and afraid to do it.
Yes - instead you can use the money you could have spent on a gun and get yourself a free abortion for you or your closest loved ones. Or maybe a serialized set of rubber ***** - would that make you feel better??? Or maybe teach a class of 9 years-olds boys, instead of fighting - how to mutually ********** each other and feel wholesome and pure about it. The civilized world is going to H$ll and Canada is going to get there first - after Amsterdam
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It was mentioned that pulling the piece and showing it to a would-be attacker was a good way to persuade the attacker to flee. I am just saying that if a cop sees you do this, you would be in deep doo-doo, even in Texas!
Hey, I am a gun owner, I'm just not into carrying guns in cars.
357 5 shot on my ankle. dont have to worry about it flying around the car in an accident. can get to it
fairly easily. i own a cash business in tough area, saved my but more than once.
I'm pretty much with you jasper,
and I'm embarrassed that my fellow countrymen have such a casual view about carrying a weapon capable of such violence and destruction. They are just giving themselves a false sense of security. More likely than not, the gun will be used against them or their loved ones, or some innocent person down the road.
I can't imagine living my life in such fear that I can't walk outside without my "piece". Sad state of affairs when a "civilized" country sees such a "need" for baring arms.
Phil
Nice job dragging this even further OT, Phil
It is against my better judgment, but I can't let you comments go unanswered. A gun is just a tool. By itself it has no capability for violence or destruction, however like many tools it can be misused.
The gun owners that I know, do not live their lives in the state of fear that you describe. Quite to the contrary, many are the most fearless individuals that I have ever met. Furthermore, I find it interesting that many of the safest places in this nation have some of the highest per capita levels of legal gun ownership levels and the least restrictive gun laws, while many areas with the lowest level of legal ownership level and most restrictive laws are some of the most dangerous and unsafe. Chicago, definitely falls among the latter group.
While I do not carry in public, I have zero animosity toward those who do. In fact while new home shopping with my wife and realtor a few weeks ago I saw a man (civilian) out walking his dog with a gun strapped to his hip. My reaction was not one of fear, hostility, or reproach. Instead I commented to my wife, "This must be a very safe neighborhood".
Your statement that "More likely than not, the gun will be used against them or their loved ones, or some innocent person down the road." has absolutely zero basis in "fact", for anyone who is even remotely familiar with the statistics surrounding such a bogus assertion.
Finally, if you want an off topic debate on gun control and ownership why not start your own thread in the proper forum rather than taking a big steaming dump in someone elses thread?
Back on topic, I carry my guns to and from the range in the front trunk of my 996 (unloaded with ammunition separate as required by IL state law).
Don't drink the Kool Aid Phil.
That statistic does not exist except in the minds of the self righteous, anti gun lobby. In fact, it's an intentional lie that has cost the lives of many innocents who could have defended themselves if not for the oppressive anti-gun laws.
Do some research Phil before you spout the left's anti-gun agenda. You might actually become enlightened but I doubt it...
This is getting terrible. The posts are getting so OT that I would like to request to close this thread.
We don't need a philisophical discussion about why people carry. The question is simply someone who is looking to carry (I assume legally), wants to know where they can put their handgun based on the experiences of others. In the last 2 pages, we have not received any addtional comments on this topic.
I agree it is crazy, but things are different in the US then Canada.
Many would like to blame guns as the cause of murder, but that is something I do not think is true.
The reality is that we have a culture problem here that results in a high homicide rate. If you look at the Justice Department statistics you will see nearly half the prison population is African American. However 8% of the total US population is African American. The alarming disproportion should be a loud warning bell to all that we need to seriously resolve these cultural issues because the trend is getting worse. I have social theories as to why this is, but that is beyond the scope of this thread.
The US murder rate is very high. The only good news is that the actual crime rate in the US is lower than many European countries. Nevertheless, it is a problem that is growing and criminals are preying on the law abiding citizens as well as their own.
Where I live we are seeing a rise in bold armed home invasions. Home invasions typically took place when the house was empty. However, the trend now is shifting to hit the house during hours when it is occupied by a family and force the occupants to surrender money and valuables or in some cases hostages are taken for ransom.
I believe most of these invasions are by well armed individuals, some with rifles. Homicides are on the rise and the Justice Department now runs advertisements on the radio with instructions on how to prepare for the scenario.
My GT3 is the only car I own. So far I have never had any kind of incident. I would be glad to surrender my car if car jacked. Unfortunately, being cooperative is meaningless in some cases. The driver may just as well be shot for the fun of it.
At home we have a German Shepherd Dog that loves to bark, with intent, at the slightest outside noise. My hope is that any potential intruder would think twice before entering. However, I have been considering moving a pistol or two out of my large safe and into a safe designed for rapid access as a backup plan.
The last thing in the world I would want to do is to be forced to use a firearm in defense. However, I would not think twice about using deadly force against any deadly threat against my family.
While I do not have a concealed carry permit, the thought has been crossing my mind of late. While I may apply, I just can't imagine myself actually going through with carrying a weapon on my person outside of my home for self defense purposes. As you stated, it is crazy, but the threat is also very real, unfortunately.
Oh wow. I thought this thread would have been locked by now. I worry about keeping a weapon in my car, because it is a cab and I do occasionally leave it with the top down. But since I use the car occasionally to take kids to and from school, I can't legally have a firearm in it anyway. If I were to carry a weapon in it, I would put a short barrel .38 in the locking center console.
There. I didn't go OT or anything. Hardly.
Downside of my suggestion above is that if one were in need of said weapon, one would have to stop the car, remove the key, then unlock and open the compartment. Not exactly a "quick draw" solution.
BTW, I was once a victim of an armed robbery. If you want to chat on that, let me know what thread to participate in.
Michael
Dont close, we want to see the guys who get their panties in a wad.
CHLed people are proven law-abiding citizens through background checks. I could see if they were all convicts.
Door pockets in the 996 are good and possibly (I thought about trying but never did) putting a gun between the seat and the door sill. So, when you remove the seatbelt, you then grab the gun and the perpretrator may not even notice. But, if he does, it maybe game over for you.
So, needless to say, I never did it.
Remember guys, CHL people ONLY use in defense, not offense.
Oh and btw, imagine you're getting car jacked, you dont have a gun but a person with a CHL does and just so happens to see the incident.
He walks behind the jacker and stops him/her right there (not literally shooting him/her, just making his/her presense known).
It can happen.
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