Make ur own Fabspeed box for $13.66 &

reverse the process later to sell your car. You simply need two parts (part numbers from Napa I will supply along with pictures in a few minutes), and about 5 minutes to convert your stock air box into a "Fabspeed" one. The process takes five minutes to reverse back to stock.

Very interested!

I posted pics and part numbers at http://www.funcarsonline.com/frames/...d/996board.htm The thread starts with: "Mike P. re: air box modification"

I checked out the pictures and posts and let me tell you, "You three are histerical!!!!".

I can't seem to view more that the subject line of the text. I must be missing something simple...Any help would be great. Best, JW

There are two threads that begin like that one. It's about the last one down. Some messages are just subject line messages in that thread (ie: the message is in the subject line with nothign in the body). Keep going down starting from the top of that thread.

Like JW i'm not able to see any pics only this : "MikeP.re:air box.."contains DIY $13.66Fabspd box (views: 109) ben, lj -- Saturday, 5 January 2002, at 6:49 p.m. Will this be the "Benspeed" airbox mod? (views: 28) MikeP Long Island -- Sunday, 6 January 2002, at 9:27 a.m. If you copyright "Benspeed" (views: 46) SRS (Indiana) -- Sunday, 6 January 2002, at 10:01 a.m. Yep, just send $0 + shipping and handling :-) (views: 20) ben, lj -- Sunday, 6 January 2002, at 10:06 a.m. Just to set an example for other vendors, I'll... (views: 51) ben, lj -- Sunday, 6 January 2002, at 10:35 a.m. Bel996

Thread starts with: Mike P. re: air box modification (views: 161) ben, lj -- Saturday, 5 January 2002, at 7:32 a.m. Right now though, this is what "shows" until you click on it: Re: verdict: Ben,lj youre obsessed > [*PIC*] (views: 134) joe @ Fabspeed -- Saturday, 5 January 2002, at 10:40 p.m. If you continue to have difficulty, I'll e-mail you pics. But given many might ask for the same and I can only send 3 of the 6 pics at a time, it would be nice if you are able to see it on funcars :-)

Got it! What a thread...Like that dialogue. I think your rig looks just fine. Thanks for letting us all see it. JW

Thanks, got it also. Now just waiting for the Dyno. Bel996

Don't misrepresent your solution as a FabSpeed solution, there is no comparison between your Mickey Mouse freeze plug/drain plug installation to a well engineered quality product that FabSpeed produces. You seem to be going way to far to discredit what is a legitmate company and product. Be professional and Chill Out

LOL! How does anyone know how well it's "engineered" - "25% increase in air flow" is advertised and we're still waiting to hear how ole Joe knows that to be true. Similarly, it's absurd that a dyno wasn't even done as part of the "engineering". There are a couple other things a friend of mine discussed about the "engineering" of his Fabspeed "quality product" today upon close examination. Funny but the guy who is one of the only two factory trained master techs in all of San Diego with 25 years experience here (5 with his own Supercup car servicing shop) didn't seem to think much diff existed between my $13.66 "Mickey Mouse...installation" and his Fabspeed one. It would be interesting to know how Joe's experience matching up against this guy - and wild performance claims with no evidence to back them don't count toward that experience.

And FDR, I addressed your similar post over at Funcarsonline: "Seems to reason that if your going to drive a 996 that at least was 65k new, why rig your car and have it be a ginny pig risking any damage at all. I'll spend the 200 bucks for a product that I'm sure Joe spent thousands in dollars in R&D and tooling to produce. I have a 82K C4 and $200.00 is small change and should be for anyone else driving a 996. If $200 dollars is an issue, sell the car. FDR" two days ago when you posted it.

Sometimes the home-made crap is better! Good ideas don't necessarily come from AutoCAD engineers. A little common sense and ingenuity never hurt any field. In 1990 at MIT I nearly cleared the entire field of 250 engineering students in the Mech E design contest (kinda like junk-yard warriors). I was a biology major with no engineering classes at all. My machine was designed in my head and drawn onto paper after I finished the contest in 4th place, humbling many computer designed and over-engineered POS's that didn't work. Ben is trying to share with us a little common sense. He is not looking to make any money so why bash him? Does Fabspeed offer any warranty/guarantee with their products? Eugene

This is Joe @ Fabspeed Motorsport. Greetings to everyone! Yes Fabspeed offers a satisfaction guarantee on our 996 hiperformance Cold-Air upgrade kit for all stock 996 airboxes. At $225 its a steal for what it does in terms of adding sportscar sound, razor like throttle response and power. The Fabspeed 996 cold-air kit when used together makes any 996 significantly faster with greater throttle response and added power you can feel. Its simple to install too. Actual acceleration testing from 3000-6000RPM shows .22seconds faster acceleration with no other changes. In addition, by simply using a BMC F1 996 airfilter with a coldair kit gave the test 996 .42seconds faster acceleration versus stock. This application provides a big gain in performance for a bolt-on system. Further gains are synergistic when one uses a freeflow "reduced backpressure" hiperformance exhaust system. Regardless, with just this coldair kit on any 996 you'll 100% have better sportscar sound and more power you will feel- satisfaction guaranteed. If you are in Europe and want any Fabspeed Motorsport Porsche airintake systems for 911s, 993s, 996s call: United Kingdom Design 911 UK Germany ***** Brombacher FVD Brombacher Germany Thomas @ Cargraphic GMBH Performance for the Next Millnium

Hey Joe(Fabspeed) what is the length of the guarantee(warranty) for your products neway since i have both (cold air plus exhaust): )?I'm very happy with both of them. Regards. Mike

I installed the real FabSpeed kit last night and I'm very satisfied with the installation and look under the hood. The sound and performance effect is noticable. FDR

I agree! There's definitely a significant difference in induction noise and wailing towards 7k rpm with this mod. I think it's actually pretty good value when you consider that you can FEEL the results. No BS. Sure, you can probably save a few $$$ making your own mods, but I'm sure for most of us the cost of messing around like that really isn't justified when you can buy this so inexpensively. Plus, the carbon fibre's nice plus everything looks great under the covers. Graham

Like I posted a month ago, I went from 2-way averaged 7.8 seconds to 6.8 ( !?) seconds 60-100 mph in 3rd gear ( Tiptronic) after 150 miles of " relearning". Only difference was the temp was 10 deg cooler for the " after" numbers. I will retest this weekend ( after 500 miles with the Fabspeed) on same road ( ambient temp supposed to be same as " before" numbers) and will report back.

MKW, the 1 second change in acceleration would indicate a HP increase of over 20-30 HP if totally accurate. The temperature difference could account for manybe 5hp but the rest is really impressive from just an airbox mod. Eugene

OK, just got back with new numbers. Same test road, avg time of 3 runs each way. Same fuel ( 1/2 tank). 3rd gear ( no kickdown) Tiptronic 60-100 mph. A) Several months ago , before mods , 70 degrees ambient : 7.75 seconds , another day at 52 degrees ambient 7.48 seconds B) 1 month ago, after 150 miles with Fabspeed box , 41 degrees ambient : 6.80 seconds C) Today, after 650 miles with mod , 49 deg ambient but mild fog : 6.87 seconds So, comparing at similar temp but different humidity, the Fabspeed has improved time from 7.5 to about 6.9 seconds , a 0.6 second improvement - a significant 5-7 car lenghths in rolling acceleration. (Published testing in car mags of Tiptronic have usually shown 60-100 split times of 7.5-7.6 seconds, by the way. )

Numbers aside,the best part of the mod ,for me, a Tiptronic owner, is that "kicking down " from 5th to 3rd gear at cruising speeds ( 65-75 mph) puts the engine at the " snarly" part of the Fabspeed box's louder,improved intake sound. Makes passing exciting.

Hi MKW-where was the testing done?I do live in the bay area myself and be nice to do such tests on my car since I did a few mods myself. Those are very good numbers indeed. regards.Mike

well, this AM , 49 degrees but sunny, I did some " flying " 60-100 mph, like the magazines ( which averaged 7.5-7.6 seconds). All my previous times were at cruise control- held 60 mph, then mashing throttle. That held car in same gear. Today's runs were timing from acceleration from 20 mph on, using AUTO mode shifting. Downside is lost time from shifting 2nd to 3rd gear at around 65 mph. Upside is momentum . Average two way time was 6.6 seconds for "flying " 60-100. (BTW, before I installed Fabspeed , I had blocked off the air muffler box from above with a plug ( like Ben) and installed a BMC filter ( which I doubt does much). The intake sound improved and I timed 7.2 seconds best , but that was with the plastic MAF screen in place. )

"(BTW, before I installed Fabspeed , I had blocked off the air muffler box from above with a plug ( like Ben) and installed a BMC filter ( which I doubt does much). The intake sound improved and I timed 7.2 seconds best , but that was with the plastic MAF screen in place. )" That screen removal is a LARGE % of the performance gain.

Ben - I will run with the Fabspeed with the screen back in place , then a run w/o the screen but using ridged/diverted OEM air bridge and see what works best. Have you done any before/after runs ? I find " seat of the pants" to be useless for mods that net less than at least 30 hp gain.

It "feels" the same to me. But like you said, it's pretty hard to "feel" this tiny a diff. However, .2 to .4 sec improvement as claimed around here seems beyond silly. Increasing the displacement to 3.6 and tweaking the vario cam (using the system on the turbos) and modifying the exhaust on the 2002s barely shaved off .20. Any claims that a silly air box modification would do the same is just that - silly.

Ben , I am posting my numbers to help all here. If I got same or worse with any mod , you can bet I'll post that too. Like I said, the results are " stop watch " numbers that are mainly felt above 5500 rpm as faster run to redline at 3rd gear at near 100 mph. Around town driving feel is the SAME. The '02 gives biggest boost in seat of the pants at part throttle around time zippyness - that's significant. THAT, you can't do with a box mod. Perhaps my '99 non electronic throttle C2 responds better to this mod than '00 on. who knows. My mod is Fabspeed plus BMC plus blocking the hot air intake holes plus hundreds of miles to reset ECM short and long term fuel trims.

mkw, Please don't get me wrong, I don't think your numbers are bs. Rather, I'm wondering if maybe there isn't some testing methodolgy which would account for the change (road surface, elevation, humidity, temp - both of the car and external, gas - both type and amount, any add'l weight during one run vs. the other, etc). There are just a kazillion variables. If all variables were the same, I'd say it's "highly" unlikely there is a .2 sec diff and not even remotely possible there is a .40. Again, look at all of the fairly significant changes to the 02 to get the .20 diff.

"A) Several months ago , before mods , 70 degrees ambient : 7.75 seconds , another day at 52 degrees ambient 7.48 seconds B) 1 month ago, after 150 miles with Fabspeed box , 41 degrees ambient : 6.80 seconds C) Today, after 650 miles with mod , 49 deg ambient but mild fog : 6.87 seconds So, comparing at similar temp but different humidity, the Fabspeed has improved time from 7.5 to about 6.9 seconds , a 0.6 second improvement - a significant 5-7 car lenghths in rolling acceleration." Weather can EASILY account for a 10% diff (adj temp, humidity, and elevation and you'll find diff well in excess of 10%)! Further, I don't know about "several months ago", but the 996 has been PROVEN to get faster as the motor is broken in.

From my reviews, the engineering for the '02 was to get significant performance gains at 3000-5000 rpm where you can really feel it. The air box mod only helps above 5500 rpm- you won't feel that in every day driving. We should get someone with an'02 to do this mod before / after !If I had an '02 , you bet it would be the first thing I would try after break in. For $200 bucks after spending $85K , it would be worth it for me. Chevy Corvette guys all get dyno proved 15-20 hp on an already "optimized" 350 and 405 hp engines with similar mods. Dodge added " smooth tubes and K&N " on their ACR model ( after aftermarket had done it for years ) and published an extra 10 hp for that factory mod. Chevy took off their MAF screen on '02 Z06 , finally admitting it was mainly there for catching stuff, not smoothing flow.

"Dodge added " smooth tubes and K&N " on their ACR model ( after aftermarket had done it for years ) and published an extra 10 hp for that factory mod. Chevy took off their MAF screen on '02 Z06 , finally admitting it was mainly there for catching stuff, not smoothing flow." Sure, and using the % of total pre-hp that the extra 10 hp represented on that ACR (not to mention the MUCH flatter torque curve on V8 and V10s), apply that % to the 300 hp Carerra and tell me what you get in terms of hp increase (btw, torque - NOT hp - is what causes the performance increases you are testing for). Ditto on the Z06. Further, how much of a decrease in times do you suppose that infintismal 10 hp as a % of total hp represented? NO WAY, NO HOW was it .20 - much less the .4 you posted.

Hey people, do what I did 3 months ago, before the Airetek , RM , and Fabspeed mods hit the market : I used a 50 cent high temp plastic cap plug ,Niagra ( Erie , Pennsylvania) # 273-1P , that has a 1 15/16 " flange lip and inside diameter 1 3/4" and 7/16" deep that is a PERFECT fit into the air muffler box " neck", so you just put the secondary air bridge back on - completely eliminates the muffler- elegant solution- no " drain plug" / sawing for 13 bucks. Great sound. Still uses the corrigated OEM bridge and the eddy flow of the secondary bridge still exists , though. I would still do the Fabspeed , after comparing the two methods.

Niagaraplastics.com is their website.

MKW, your solution arrived today. It sure is even easier than mine! The only thing I might say is that both you and Joe leave in the top half of the muffler box which a) restricts air flow, and b) is a very rough surface owing to the walls which don't encourage the smooth flow like a) no top half or b) the smooth bottom half muffler case provided in the OEM box. All in all though, I'd say you accomplished all Joe did for free - they sent mine via a free sample with no shipping, etc.

LOL ! I can see it now : hundreds of requests for that "free" plug !

can you please tell me where to find info on your mod?? regards <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />

Wow, dredging up nostalgia ! Last week, I retested my run from 1/13/02 post. "Flying" 60-100 mph in same place/ conditions ( but full tank of gas ) was 6.57 seconds. So the Fabspeed improvement has held after 6 months and 3000 miles w/o evidence of negative ECM relearning.

Ben in LJ, I was curious to see your airbox setup, but the link to funcars doesn't work anymore. Can you update the link for me please? Thanks David

But I can't seem to get to this URL. Even wgen I log on to funcarsonline I can't find the thread in any search. Any help appreciated. I gotta vouche for everything the man from Fabspeed (above) says. Gaaaagious music out the rear end of my porsches tuchas and I get a great kick in the pants every time I blip into 3rd at about 5000 rpm. Berny

sorry, but i don't have any of those pictures saved. that said, i am supercharging the car in a couple weeks and won't therefore need that airbox anymore. is $100 with B&M filter fair? "I gotta vouche for everything the man from Fabspeed (above) says. Gaaaagious music out the rear end of my porsches tuchas and I get a great kick in the pants every time I blip into 3rd at about 5000 rpm. " yeah, but mine sounds better - for two reasons: i took out the entire airbox muffler and cut holes in the bottom section of the airbox.

oldie but goodie, by Ben Keaton no less. RIP