escaped a ticket

so i was on my way back from looking at some 2008 911s and cayman s' and drive a bit too spiritedly on an interstate. i didn't think i was going too fast, just the weight of my foot on the peddle. so then lights start flashing behind me. yikes! state trooper. i pull over and he walks over and says, "i clocked you going 90 in a 70." geez. 20 over. i guess i'm getting a ticket. he runs my license and comes back and says, "i'll let you off with a warning, but watch the speed. nice car.". he was a youngish trooper and i think he was a car enthusiast. we jawed a bit about my 911 and i was on my way. phew! i guess the gods were telling me to stop coveting very reduced price 2008s and be happy with what i have.

Congrats! Sometimes the speed gods do smile upon the worshipers... I got a ticket about a month ago... A 55 zone went to a 35 zone. The cop was about 100 yards before the 35 MPH sign. He said I went by him at 50. Total BS - I saw him, I saw the 35 MPH sign, and firmly believe I was driving appropriately.

I had an interesting experience the other day. I was doing 80-85 on an empty Interstate late at night. Just cruising, not racing. Suddenly I see a CHP car behind me and tailing me closely. So I move over to the right most lane, reduce speed to 60 and wait for his lights to come on. Suddenly, the trooper takes an exit and leaves me alone? I just drove along dumbfounded, albeit sporting a huge grin.

Always nice to get off with a warning! So much depends on the personality and mood of the person that pulls you over (I have several retired policemen in my family).

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well, it was a sunny day today, so that might've helped.

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I also want to add that the personality and the mood of the driver being pulled over also plays a major role.

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Absolutely!

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Nice quote. I avoided a big ticket once when I almost passed a cop going "very fast" on the way to work. He flipped his lights on, but there was construction on the freeway and I couldn't exit so the trooper had about 5 minutes to follow me and "cool off" and let me off with just a stern warning. Something like "I don't know how fast you were going...."

Nice escape! It's good to be lucky some times.

got 2 warnings last year... it helps to have a clean license, straight up "I effed up, sorry", right cop... and luck. Yes, there is a God!

I too have had great experiences at excessive speed. My last ticket was for 90 in a 75 on Iinterstate 5, but it was just before Thunderhill Raceway at 6:30am on a Saturday morning. I think he knew I was just "testing" because he said he had a solid tone at 138, and my speedometer said 170 just before he crested the hill, so I think I got off real lucky. I've also gotten off with a warning twice at 170 and once at 160. But every single time I get caught crusing at 80 in a 65 zone I get a ticket. Go figure?

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Moral of the story..... drive 160+ ALL the time!

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I have to call BS on this one. If this were true you would have been cuffed and stuffed in the blink of an eye, at least on one of the occasions.

Since we are sharing stories. This happen a few days back. I was coming home from my in laws after dinner and they gave me a nice bottle of Tequila. I put it on my passenger floor all exposed. On the high way I notice this SUV get real close to me. Keep in mind its dark and I move to the side lane. He moves also. I kept thinking why is this guy on me like this. So I did what any normal P car owner would do. I took off and got in front of other cars. So I drove 10 miles and the SUV some how catches up and get right behind me so I kept moving and he kept moving with me. Finally the SUV turns on his overhead lights and its a officer and I pull over. He comes to the car and tells me that he clocked me at one point doing 86 and also notices the bottle and ask if I have been drinking. Luckily I was sober and passed on wine at dinner. So I tell him I thought he was just a person playing games with me and he kinda laughed and said I can see your point and we started to talk about the Pcar and asked me how fast I have taken it. Too be honest I did not know how to answer that so I just said "I have got it up there" He looks at me and says "slow down and have a good night" I was shocked that he let me go with a warning. He did not even press me on the bottle. It must have his time to get off work.

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Yeah, have to agree. CHP doesn't give warnings on 160mph, that kind of speed on a US freeway is really endangering others and they'd treat it that way....

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Lol, same here, & I thought it was just me. Just last month I got 3 laaame tickets. One for 85, one for 93, & an other one for 95, all of them in a 65. But I've zoomed by a cop with a radar gun at 120+ & he was looking at me with his radar gun pointed at me, so as I was driving I was like "great, I'm about to get a ticket," but nope, I never even got pulled over. Another time I was going 170 & all of a sudden a patrol gets on the freeway, I slowed down to about 120 & he was on my tail for such a long time, but never pulled me over, my hands were sweating, lol. Finally he starts to pull to the right to get off the freeway, & he looks over, grins, & revs his car "vroom vroom," lol. Also, once I parked in a red zone (I had to drop something off at one of my stores which is in a very bad neighborhood, & didn't want to park my car far), & as I was getting off, a cop pulls up next to me & rolls down his window, he says "nice car" & just leaves. Not to mention I've never gotten pulled over for my very dark tinted windows or the fact that I have no front or rear license plates. Point is, I've gotten tickets for 85, but never for going 170, not having a license plate at all, parking in red, & having dark tinted windows? I guess what I've learned is either don't break the law, or break it aaall the way.

I got a warning yesterday. I was driving along in the right lane and minding my own business when a cop pulls up behind me and the lights come on. I pull over and he walks up to the car and asks "Do you know how fast you were going?" I reply, "Why yes officer, I was going 46 MPH." He says, "Yup, that's what I got on the radar." I said "Well I don't understand what the problem is, the speed limit is 70 MPH." He says, "You're right, but the minimum speed is 50 MPH." I said "I know, I KNOW.... but I had it floored and that's as fast as it will go!" He says "OK, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Just stay in the right lane and keep your eye on your rear view mirror. I wouldn't want you to get run over. Drive safely!"

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that made me chuckle.

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you didn't get ticketed for littering the highway?

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You deserve to have your license removed. 3 tickets in one month and admitting to speeds like that just shows that you are a compulsive speeder and a dangerous driver. You should be removed from the road. If you want to drive like that, then take it to the track.

I can understand reaching absurd speeds on a deserted highway, but on a regular interstate. that is rolling the dice with other's and one's life. At these speeds, reaction time in non existent; hence, if someone or something crosses your path you are both cooked.

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"Compulsive speeder," kind of, although usually nothing out of the ordinary. A normal highway drive for me is at an average speed of 90, which is no big deal. Go out on the freeway down here in San Diego when there isn't much traffic & you'll see that everyone drives at about 80+ in the fast lane. As for the "dangerous driver" comment, no, I'm far from that. I've reached 170 maybe about 3 or 4 times, all of them at about 1AM on drives from LA to San Diego when the road is basically empty & I can see straight ahead for over a mile, 1 of those times to get away from one of those annoying M3 drivers. But I am also the kind of person that if there's a lot of traffic, I'll go with the flow of the traffic, I'm not all crazy trying to street race, changing lanes abruptly, & beeping or anything like that. I drive according to the conditions. For example, a couple weeks ago it was raining quite heavily & I was driving at about 50 in the slow lane, just to be safe. It's not speeding that makes an unsafe driver, it's being stupid that makes an unsafe driver... Anyway, as for your little bitch comments about "omg you shouldn't be on the road, someone should take your license away. will someone please think of the children" & what not, it sounds more like you deserve to have your Porsche removed. You're clearly one of those nerdy, ****, uptight girly dudes that when people see in a Porsche, they're like "what a waste of a nice car." Calm down Marry Poppins, I don't want you getting your panties all in a twist & then crying about it. Get over your midlife crisis already. Reaction time IS existent when the road is free & clear & you can see straight ahead for miles ahead, which is the only kind of situation in which I reach these speeds. I understand your point of view, & I agree, but if you saw what a cautious driver I am (even though that's probably not the impression you get of me), you'd speak differently. Believe it or not, I truly hate when mororonic drivers don't know what they're doing & they're speeding, changing lanes, tailgating, etc. in traffic. I am not that person.

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This is not really helping your case. I think maturity has something to do with decision making and accepting the consequence of one's actions, and your reply...not so much.

Okay, let's lay this out. You readily admit to hitting speeds of 170 mph on public roads at night when your stopping distance is less than your visibility. You admit to having a speeding problem. In previous posts you have admitted to being 18 years old. I can guarantee that at 18 years old that your car is far more capable then you are as a driver. Maturity is about restraint and knowing when not to do something even when you can. It is clear from your posts that you are not capable of restraint (in driving or attitude) and therefore have a ways to go before maturity. Driving at such speeds on public roads is asking to kill yourself. I have no problem with that, but I do have a problem with you potentially taking someone else with you. Public roads are unpredictable and uncontrolled environments. Your car is designed for high speed, but those speeds are not meant to be attained on public roads. If you feel that you have done nothing wrong, then feel free to PM me your contact info and we'll arrange a conversation with the CHP so that you can convince them of your superior driving capabilities and why you do not deserve to have your driving privileges removed. This would be the first part of taking responsibility for your actions. Honestly, I'm open to being convinced of why you have done nothing wrong - I'm open minded and await your enlightened argument. To date you have not convinced me of your superior abilities, mature thought and self control.

Like I said, I've gone up to those speeds very few times & when there's no one on the road & I can see clear for a long distance. I never said I do this often. Clearly you don't comprehend what I'm saying. I'm pretty sure most people who buy a car like this hit similiar speeds at least a couple times, which is what I did. I probably won't again. It's one of those things people do one or a couple times to get it out of their system, & then never again. It's not like I'm doing crazy stunts in traffic at high speeds on a daily basis. If you feel so strongly against unsafe speeding & what not, you should be harassing ricers instead of me, or become a CHP. Although I think the REAL problem here is that you have 5,124 posts, which means you have nothing better to do & you probably haven't gotten laid in at least 5,124 days. Anyway, speaking of "maturity," I'm not into all this internet fighting crap. It's not the reason I come to a forum. In fact, I didn't even read that whole last post you wrote. But either way my conclusion is that we simply have to agree to disagree. You're never going to convince me you're right, & neither am I, & I could care less. So get over it, go get laid, have fun & don't worry about other people speeding for gods sake. I mean we're not even close to being in the same state... Thank god.

Some more food for thought. Here’s a bit of math: At 170 mph, you’re traveling about 250 feet per second. Based upon a friction coefficient guesstimated based upon a 60-0 braking distance of about 105 ft. from an Edmund’s test, and assuming reaction time of two seconds, that means that the you would require at least 1/4 mile for a 170-0 stop. And mind you, that’s a fairly optimistic estimate. Have another car pull in front of you at 60 mph, and you’d have a closing speed of 110 mph, or 160 feet per second. If that slower driver locks his brakes for some reason, his braking distance with a two-second reaction time in a normal passenger car will be about 275-300 feet. You can see the problem. To allow for a safe stop in this scenario, you need to maintain at least 1,000 feet of stopping distance to avoid hitting that stopping car (1,300+ ft for you, less the 300 ft needed by the other guy.) In rough numbers, that’s over 60 car lengths of distance needed to avoid a crash. On a public highway, that’s next to impossible to expect. That requires a level of attentiveness that is unreasonable for your average person, as well as excellent vision and depth perception. On a track, that can work, but on a public highway, that’s sheer madness. (Feel free to correct any of the math, but I’m sure none of it will justify highway speeds of 170 mph.) ...and you wonder why this is illegal and widely regarded as highly irresponsible? Your posts make your maturity level self-evident and I do not need to comment on that. I am simply commenting on your unsafe behavior. You said that you did this at night when there is no way that you can see far enough ahead to be able to react to unexpected events - it's near impossible to do in daylight and certainly not possible at night.

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Tim this one is PRICELESS!!!!

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Tim, I have to say BS...unless you have a chip. new air induction, coffee can aftermarket exhaust, large rear wing and spinner hub caps....you couldn't possibly do 46 mph!!!

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He was driving downhill with the wind behind him.

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don't forget the "powered by acura" vinyl all over the car. that adds 20-25 rhp (riceboy horse power).

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Oh, ye of little faith! My car is a MONSTER! EXACTLY!!!!

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18 year old drivers should not have 911s. When I was 18 I was getting myself in more than enough trouble in a dodge neon, had I a 911 I'd be dead right now. Maturity aside, an 18 year old simply doesn't have the driving experience necessary to control a normal car in an emergency situation, let alone a car with a big fat butt.

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I agree with you 100%. I'm not saying that there are not any very capable 18 year old drivers out there, but I am saying that they are very, very rare. In my opinion the words and behavior of this particular 18 year old suggests that he is not one of them.

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Absolutely! +1

Even if Raphael is a capable driver, a teenager at over 120+ on a highway at night is ridiculous - no matter where you are. Posting it on a public internet site with your full name is really a bad idea. Bob

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Let's see if I can recap this situation. An 18 year old kid with a 911, reportedly driving 170+ MPH, got 3 tickets in one month, and posting that info on a web site with what could be his full name. 18 year old kids believe: 1) they are indestructible, 2) know everything there is to know. Unfortunately, the truth is that they: 1) are mortal like the rest of us, 2) don't know anything, 3) have no common sense, 4) have no clue how quickly bad things can happen when driving a "legal" speeds, let alone at 100+ MPH.

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Funny how it changes... I remember times when I was at least a passenger with that kid, and now I can feel my blood boil when I see someone driving like that. Do what I did at 16, get a motorcycle. If you survive until 18, you have a new respect for speed and inertia, oh, and a little more scar and less skin

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I think that you summed up this kid pretty well Tim - sadly he's too young and inexperienced to realize what a jackass he's being in risking his life and the life of others that happen to stumble into his path. Honestly, 3 tickets in a month - he deserves to lose his license - any judge that does not do so needs kicking from the bench, as this kid obviously has a speeding issue. I've not had 3 tickets in my life, nevermind in one month. What we have here is someone that has no restraint and unleases in a dangerous manner. He should not be driving a Porsche until he has developed some maturity. I have no problem with kids killing themselves (although I do feel sorry for their parents), as they're young enough that they've contributed nothing to the world and really have done nothing of value yet - honestly, the loss of an 18 year old from the world is not a big deal - it happens every day. It's a waste - potential lost, but they've done nothing of value to the world that I should mourn. I do have a problem when they risk taking themselves out in a manner that might take others with them.

Wellard, As a math teacher I have no problems with your math. 3 tickets/1 month is just wrong. I would be upset with 3 tickets in a year! Although I don't even want to say how many tickets I've gotten in about 25 years, because it will probably jinx me - let's just say I'm almost at the same amount the kid got in a month.

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Thanks! I checked several sources and came to around the same numbers, so figured I couldn't be too far off. I found the original numbers on a Nissan 350Z forum and went from there. As for tickets - I've only had one in the 21 years that I have been driving. Could I have gotten more? Sure, but I'm smart in where, when, and how long I put my foot down. I've also had some lucky escapes. I certainly would never do speeds like that on a public road - especially at night! I think I've already published my philosophy on speeding before, but here's a quick recap (and I'll probably forget something) i) only when conditions allow - i.e. good weather and a clear road ii) only go as fast as you can see - i.e., you have to be able to see far enough ahead that you can see beyond your stopping distance and there should be no potential for surprises or obstacles within that stopping distance. iii) don't speed in an area that's frequently patrolled and has speed traps. iv) drive within your limitations v) do not do anything that will endangers others vi) be willing to accept the consequences of your speed if you're caught - bear in mind if you're +20mph over the limit, then you are going to get a nice ride in a police cruiser if you're caught.

Raphael, have you spent some time at DE track events? If not, I strongly urge you to attend. They are a great deal of fun and, speaking for myself, allow you to exercise your speed demons in a safe and controlled environment. Look, I am not saying that I am a saint, but I do know that as much as I would like to take my car to top speed I simply refrain myself and await the next track event.

Great point, russo. The track will give you an experience that will make fast driving on highways seem like a waste of time. The last thing I'd want to do is squash Raphael's enthusiasm for Porsche. I was 18 with my brother's Porsche decades ago (don't get excited - it was an automatic 924) and I managed to drive like a crazy man most of the time. Once I got a little older, I lost some of that desire and developed a lot more respect for the law and physics. I hope he will too. Raphael, be crazy about your car. But, heed some middle-aged advice and take it to the track. Bob

As I said before, it's something I did only about 3 times on empty, straight, visible roads. I got it out of my system like I think most P-car owners have at some time, & I probably won't do it again. I'm not trying to start some huge argument here with any of you, much less with Bill Nye The Science Guy, AKA WellardMac who gets way too **** about things. As for the DE suggestion, I've actually been looking into it on the PCA of San Diego site & am thinking of trying it out this year. Oh, & for you guys saying I shouldn't be driving a Porsche, too bad. I'm most likely getting a 997S this year. But when the economy gets back on it's feet, I'll be replacing with an F-car or Lambo so you can all be happy. Oh, & completely off topic here, but does anyone know a good detailer in the san diego area? My car is in desperate need of a good polish. I need to get rid of scratches, swirl marks, etc. & I want it to look like glass.

Who is your dad and why is he trying to get you killed? Edit: Any chance you're Nick Hogan?

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I did this and took it one step further as well; I started racing motorcycles. Now I rarely get crazy on the street because what's the point? When you can go to the track and exploit everything the car/bike has to offer it makes driving/riding on the streets terribly boring. The track definitely made me a safer and slower driver/rider on the streets. Good adivce, if slightly misguided.

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Def. not an endorsement for a motorcycle, rather an endorsement of physics. I raced as well and what I learned was how crazy the street was. The best part of racing was learning the capabilities of the machine under you. Now, I am aware enough of the capabilities of a car that it's enough for me to recognize how a car reacts even when it's not pushed to the edge. I also try to always respect the lives of others, so I just don't see how it's worth it to push a car (or a driver) on the street. If you can afford a 997 or Ferrari as a teenager, you can afford track time and there's no need to risk anyone else's life. Maybe Raphael is a reckless driver, maybe not, but most likely he will not consider any of this until he is at least 30.

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Yup! totally agree. He's not going to get it until one of two things happen i) he's mature enough to realize the consequences of his actions ii) he kills himself or someone else. It's sad to see someone who has the ability to drive such well engineered cars to be so totally undeserving and unworthy of doing so. He obviously has the means to take the car to the track. He should limit his poor behavior to that forum. I'm sure there's another Enzo out there waiting for this guy to come along and split in half after he wraps it around a pole. Poor undeserving car.

He should do some DE's. It will give him a newly found sense of modesty and at worst give him more basic understanding of car control and the physics/consequences behind driving that fast. Better yet, start at an autocross where speeds are slower (less potential for damage) and he'll still get a dose of humble pie on his ability when he gets schooled. Even if he manages not to loose it he will learn again car control, physics and see what people that have experience can do. You never know, maybe he'll even get into performance driving in a safe and controlled environment. While I have very little tolerance of young kids or others regardless of age driving like lunatics on the road, I would encourage him to learn in a safe place where there are less variables like other civilians (who can't drive) and do unpredictable things that can potentially result in an accident (see the kid that t-boned me on the way home from work and put me in 2+ years and counting in physical therapy). With speeds that high, it doesn't matter who's at fault, the collision will result in serious consequences. Get your thrills at the track or Autocross, /soapbox

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LOL!!! C'mon, guys. Read the original post and the above quote again. This is just a kid leting off some hot air. Bragging and enlarging. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, know what I mean?