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Interesting, when I had my fabspeed exhaust installed I didnt pay attention to the process of reattaching them.

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it's a clean install.

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Replace (mine did) and you may even need

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the issue will be that your old tips may well be rusted on (my bolts were) the clamps will likely need replaced (mine did) and you may even need to torch off the rusted bolts (needed that on one of mine).

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it's a clean install.

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Run .....lol....$500 is a deal

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Maybe you should call the dealer and ask how much the large single exhaust tips run.....lol....$500 is a DEAL for Porsche tips....$200 is a STEAL....Porsche tips from techart or Ruf or Gembella can be like $1000!!!!

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Tighten with a screw

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I've noticed that some on eBay appear to attach by slipping on and tightening with a screw.

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I've noticed that some on eBay appear to attach by slipping on and tightening with a screw.

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it's a clean install.

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Interesting, when I had my fabspeed exhaust installed I didnt pay attention to the process of reattaching them.

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Replace (mine did) and you may even need

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the issue will be that your old tips may well be rusted on (my bolts were) the clamps will likely need replaced (mine did) and you may even need to torch off the rusted bolts (needed that on one of mine).

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Run .....lol....$500 is a deal

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Maybe you should call the dealer and ask how much the large single exhaust tips run.....lol....$500 is a DEAL for Porsche tips....$200 is a STEAL....Porsche tips from techart or Ruf or Gembella can be like $1000!!!!

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Tighten with a screw

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I've noticed that some on eBay appear to attach by slipping on and tightening with a screw.

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I've noticed that some on eBay appear to attach by slipping on and tightening with a screw.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Have a 2001 coupe and am considering dual tips for the exhaust. Any suggestions, previous experience, etc...? thanks

POST 2Original post

you mean like these? I paid about $450 plus a half hour to install. the old tips can be a pig to get off (mine were, I gave up and let the dealer torch them off) as the bolts and clips tend to get rusty.

POST 3Original post

You can find them on ebay all day long, black or chrome, often referred to as Turbo tips...... There is a long thread about this if you

POST 4Original post

it doesn't look right on narrowbodies... sticks out too much

POST 5Original post

Do not have them myself, but it would not be difficult to shorten the pipes to your preferred length....

POST 7Original post

http://www.vertexauto.com/ShowItem/1...ell%20PT1.aspx As mentioned above - these guys have them on sale on ebay all the time...but they make these turbo like tips that fit a regular 996 exhaust.

POST 8Original post

doesn't stick out any more than stock ovals.....

POST 9Original post

I put them on my car when I added PSE. They look great IMHO. On my car they "stick out" no more or less than the original ovals.

POST 10Original post

might not stick out farther but it's definitely much more noticeable than the oval tips which follows the curve of the bumper better on the narrowbodies. which is the reason why you guys are probably "upgrading" anyways. on the turbo or c4s, the rear bumper is much chunkier and hides the sides of the tips much better whereas on the narrows, it's just too noticeable. looks out of place and awkward. sure it's an eyes of the beholder thing - just sharing my opinion, take it personally if u want

POST 11Original post

Don't take it personally, but your idea of what looks good and mine are completely different..in this case yours is way off IMHO.

POST 12Original post

which "turbo" or dual tips (links would be appreciated) are you C4S guys using? I've gotten conflicting info on this. thanks... josh

POST 13Original post

They are stock on "Wide Body" P Cars generally. Turbos and C4S'. For narrow body cars you can purchse similar ones that look the same. Help me out guys. Do the C4S or Turbo Tips fit a narrow body stock..

POST 14Original post

I have the 'sticky-out' tips as well - love 'em! They are HUGE! Which is part of their attraction of course. Not cheap, but then it's not a screw-on Pep-Boys muffler tip. I was a complete wuss and let the stealership put them on after reading of seized bolts etc etc

POST 15Original post

The 2002 C4S I'm taking delivery on tomorrow (yes, i'll post pics ;-) has the oval tips. I think the dual tips might have been an option??? ...josh

POST 16Original post

Ben - Are you kidding me? The Turbo tips don't stick out any farther that the stock tips. Where do you get this stuff?

POST 18 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks - I especially appreciate the photos of the black coupe since that is what I have. Looks great. Any info on a reliable eBay vendor?

POST 19Original post

I think I just found my next mod. I've looked at the ones of SpiderV6's car and they look great, but I wasn't sure that they would fit on my car, so I didn't pull the trigger. Now that I know that fit pre-'02 cars I'll add this onto my list of jobs to do.

POST 20Original post

We did a group buy from this guy for alu pedals. He's selling these turbo look tips. Don't know if the tips are any good... maybe I should put another group buy together! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/99-03...spagenameZWDVW

POST 21Original post

I would be in on a group buy providing they fit a C4S alright. thanks... josh

POST 22Original post

I might be in on a group buy... but not it you did it immediately. Also, we need him to give us a better deal than he did last time, considering the amount of business we gave him. Don't want my wife to start calling the car my money pit. I worry about the comment in the ad you posted that said welding was required. What's the deal there?

POST 23Original post

Fellas: Personally, I like the look of the dual tips better. Call me a poseur if you want. I don't care. I'm in for a group buy. I am a bit confused about some things...so to clarify: Will these fit a C2 Cab ('02)? Is this a DIY or not? Thanks, in advance, for the answers. -Cami

POST 24Original post

Ouch! 450 *American* dollars? Sorry, guys, they look OK, but that pricing is absolutely absurd. Even the $289 from eBay is ridiculous.

POST 25Original post

Did someone say poser, Im having flashbacks. Or maybe I havent taken my crazy pills. Make a sweet enough group buy happen and ill throw them on.

POST 26Original post

This ^ design is "bassackwards" from the OEM Turbo tips. The OEM tips have the larger outlet as a complete oval with the smaller oval joining into the larger outlet. The ebay tips have the larger outlet joining into the smaller oval. I don't suppose it really makes any difference functionally.

POST 27Original post

Oh yeah, now I see it. I knew something looked odd there - nice catch Tim!

POST 28Original post

functionally? They don't do anything except for look damn ccol and $450? It's a genuine Porsche part, so............ and frankly, I'd rather pay money for those (that you can actually see) rather than for some spacers which move my wheels out by 0.0154879555 inches........ horses for courses....beauty is in the eye of the beholder......etc.....

POST 29Original post

I would be in for a group buy. I think they look better.

POST 30Original post

...so it's marked up incredibly high even though it doesn't do anything except make other P-car owners "in the know" think you're trying to make your base ride into an "S" version the poseur way. If the wheel spacer has a functional purpose, that would be more preferable to me than dropping HALF A GRAND for these things. They do look nice, but they certainly wouldn't be a deal-breaker if they weren't on a car I was thinking about buying.

POST 31Original post

I like the look of the tips.... granted mine stick out more than they should... since they are from an '02+ car and mine is a '00. I did get them for a good price though, (free!) so i don't care about them sticking out.

POST 32Original post

I never changed mine for the exact same reason as tooloud10....I mean it is RIDICULOUS for the price! I was going to to check out my ghetto muffler shop and have them fabricate some tips for me. What the heck is the dang difference? When is the last time you guys went to pep boys? They sell some pretty OK stainless tips...who would know? I dont mind spending money on stuff...but yeah I am 100% with tooloud10...when I saw the "perfect" dual tips I wanted..and saw that they were $750??? FOR TIPS!!! my stockers looked so perfect!

POST 33Original post

These things really are over inflated. Let me know how it goes with the muffler shop manufacturing. Might be less to have one weld them up then have them re dipped...

POST 34 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I've noticed that some on eBay appear to attach by slipping on and tightening with a screw. However my stock tips appear welded on to the exhaust. Anybody do it themselves or is this a muffler shop/dealer install? Am I missing something obvious? Thanks

POST 35Original post

If I wanted to pretend I had an 'S' it would be easier to buy a fake 'S' and stick it on..... Your suggestion is to save $200 and go with ebay tips that don't look right (as referenced in a previous post) and may or may not fit exactly (as Porsche manufactured ones are guaranteed to do). If that's what makes you happy, go for it. Nothing wrong with that. Like I said, horses for courses.

POST 36Original post

I have a very special "S" on my car! Man, I hate it when the cape doesn't stay ticked in!

POST 37Original post

Actually, I didn't endorse purchasing them from eBay.

POST 38 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I'll inquire again: " I've noticed that some on eBay appear to attach by slipping on and tightening with a screw. However my stock tips appear welded on to the exhaust. Anybody do it themselves or is this a muffler shop/dealer install? Am I missing something obvious? Thanks To you guys that don't like the dual tips, why don't you start your own thread and quit wasting our time.

POST 39Original post

I would definitely have a muffler shop do them. Cleaner, better install....

POST 40Original post

the stock tips are bolts and clamps - no welding. it's a clean install. the issue will be that your old tips may well be rusted on (my bolts were) the clamps will likely need replaced (mine did) and you may even need to torch off the rusted bolts (needed that on one of mine). So, getting them off can be a pain, but fitting the new ones was literally slide them on and tighten them up.

POST 41 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I'll crawl under for a better look. Thanks

POST 42Original post

Interesting, when I had my fabspeed exhaust installed I didnt pay attention to the process of reattaching them. And I was just under there for a while when I flushed my coolant..... How observant I am not!

POST 43Original post

That design is how it is for the X54, smaller oval cuts into larger oval. It's obviously different for the C2's with the larger oval cutting into the smaller oval.

POST 44Original post

Here are mine....custom made and installed at AAA Muffler in LA....you can get a good muffler shop to do it for a few hundred installed.... I think what B Choi is saying is that the exhaust cutout on the narrow body and wide body cars is slightly different. The narrow body cutout is more round, and the narrow body is more oval, so the tips seem to follow the contour of the cutout better, in his opinion. I see what he is saying, and its slight...I like them either way.

POST 45Original post

Dont get me wrong they look great! And great cars are made by fine details. But a "few hundred" seems exorbitant.

POST 46Original post

it looks siq on your ride, newport. u did it right. i can already tell even from that poor angle that it sits tighter with the bumper and doesn't jut out like a pair of straight pipes on a mustang. whether narrow or wide, fellas... it needs to sit tight against the bodywork to look right. since the stock tips are made for the widebodies, you need a customize it like newport, but that's extra effort which peeps haven't been doing. for me, little things add up to a lot.

POST 47Original post

Maybe you should call the dealer and ask how much the large single exhaust tips run.....lol....$500 is a DEAL for Porsche tips....$200 is a STEAL....Porsche tips from techart or Ruf or Gembella can be like $1000!!!!

POST 48Original post

Thanks! I cheated though...I have a TT bumper modded for a narrow body so my exhaust cutout is oval, not round...I think thats all you are seeing in comparison.

POST 49Original post

Oh, I believe it..... And am sure I will do it, its just aesthetic and a few hundred bucks.

POST 50Original post

So I am thoroughly confused now by this thread

POST 51Original post

Arnee - you are correct that the X54 tips are designed that the smaller oval cuts into larger oval. However, you are incorrect about C2 being different from that design. I have a 2004 C2 and my car came with the X54 tips fitted at the factory.

POST 52Original post

I agree with Ben. To each their own (except spinners! NO SPINNERS!) I think that on a narrow body, all stock, the ovals look right. With a wide body, or spoilers/lowering/aeros and other "go fast" looking mods the turbo tips look good. For mine though, it looks classy stock and looks kinda "poseurish" to put on the dual tips. Never seen it in person though. Sometimes that makes all the difference...

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