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YOUR RESEARCHAnyone in Plano TX missing a headlight?
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the headlight is NOT from a totaled car, the seller states it was replaced (i.e.
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Check this auction out:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEBWA%3AIT
"In the two red circles you will see screwdriver scrapes which happened when removing this. "
I am so stupid, here i've been removing the lights by turning the lever, when the correct method was to pry them out with a screw driver.
It really makes me sick seeing things like this.
you never know it could've come off a totalled car that was bent and couldn't let the headlight out. or it could've been taken from a junkyard where they didn't have the headlight key. I thought this country was based on the premise of innocent until proven guilty. everyone is so eager to point the finger before they know the whole story...
either way, I have nothing to do with the guy selling this thing... but I just don't think it's right to accuse someone about something you have no facts about.
Oh good lord. Innocent until proven guilty applies to our legal system, not our opinions. If this is not stolen, why was it pried out? (Dont give me this bent car/no key crap) and why is it being sold so cheaply? I think it is obviously stolen. There was one a few months ago on eBay that the seller said he bought at a rummage sale. Give me a break!
(Though I'm not sure reporting it stolen if it wasn't yours was called for!)
and from what i have experienced and seen, our justice system is actually based on guilty until proven you have enough money for a good lawyer to keep you out of jail or whatever
You have no idea what your talking about NiveK. Your basing your opinion on Law and Order or or the celebrity cases on tv. Thousands of cases go through the system with rich and poor being found not guilty/liable. Every so often there is a ruling that is ridiculous but don't blame the justice system who enforces the rules. Blame the legislature who makes the rules allowing for injustice.
Bobby
actually chitownbob you are the one that has no idea, i do, from first hand experience SEVERAL times so don't go preaching about what you don't know about first hand, i know how the system is supposed to work and unfortunatly i know how it actually works
Back to the original topic...
Seems like it'd be a fairly simple matter for e-bay to inquire as to the VIN number of the car it came from.
Sounds pretty fishy to me, though, especially given the rash of recent thefts reported on these units...
No, NiveK, I don't think there's a VIN on the lights (though maybe Porsche should consider that in the future, given their popularity now amongst thieves).
I just think it might be interested to have the seller produce the VIN from whatever car the lights supposedly came out of. If he can't produce a VIN, I think he's nailed.
By the way, I wonder if the new, "old" round headlights on the 997 will be more or less attractive to thieves?
I wonder if there is a way to etch the vin into the lens in such a way that obliterationg the etched vin ruins the lens?..........
or maybe just use this front plate......
the headlight is NOT from a totaled car, the seller states it was replaced (i.e. in a perfectly good car) due to those tiny itsy bitsy little marks on the housing surrounding the headlight. also, the guy also isn't a car parts dealer, primarily a buyer. his explanation for the reason for selling the headlight makes no sense. the tiny marks are almost impossible to notice, even in the close-up pictures. i can't imagine somebody would have replaced the headlight for that reason. and anybody **** enough to replace the headlight for that reason would NOT have had them pried out with a screwdriver. anyway, i reported it to ebay as a stolen item. so shoot me. if it's not, the guy will sell it. if it is, hopefully ebay can stop the sale. the way i reported it is that "i SUSPECT it MAY be stolen property." let somebody else decide. IMHO, it was stolen from a car.
i also have personal experience with damaging headlights in an accident (both of mine on my C4) and let me tell you, if the car was in some sort of accident, there would be more damage. those plastic lenses scratch incredibly easily! that damage on the edge looks like that's where the person first inserted the screwdriver to pull the lights out.
Here is an email responce from the seller posted on 6speed...
Alright idiot. Allow me to explain something to you. First thing is
first. I work for a valet company. Another valet in the same company had a
standard truck roll backward into a carerra 911, the carerra belonged
to another valet customer. The light was scratched on the exterior along
with the whole fender. The fender has been repaired, the light was
replaced for the customer. This is the damaged light being sold since it is
completely useless to us. Now we do have the receipt from the new
headlamp purchased from Park Place Lexus in Highland Park / Dallas Texas.
Now if you really show interest in this piece, I will provide you with a
copy of the receipt. I suggest that you keep your stupid comments to
yourself, this light is not stolen. The screwdriver scratches were from
removal at the dealership. Whoopiedoo, have you tried to remove one of
these? Give me a break.
Very well written response from that guy!
Anyway, another reason not to valet park.
I'll try to attach a picture of a friend's car after a valet "clipped" the column while backing out.
This still seems odd. So, the valet company bought the replacement light? Did they also do the repair work on the fender? A new light, can of Rust-Oleum, and tada its as good as new! Strange to say the least.
i agree mim3. since when did body shops/insurance companies start providing the parts from accident cars to the people responsible for causing the accident??!?!?!?!?!?! that makes no sense at all. if the guy worked for the body shop doing the repairs it would be one thing. but he works for the valet company. doesn't make any sense at all! how did he come into possession of the headlight?
secondly, if a dealer (i think you have to assume porsche dealer) removed them as he states, they never would have scratched them. a porsche dealer who works on an $80K+ car isn't going to be prying at the headlight with a screwdriver to get it out. they're going to remove it the correct way. he asks "have you tried to remove one?" and i answer "yes, i have" and they're really easy to remove without scratching them IF you have access to the trunk! it's a piece of cake even for a novice, a 10-15 minute job per headlight.
i'll be the first one to admit that the guy's story is possible, but it just doesn't add up. you have to stretch too many things for it to even start to make sense. but i'll admit there's a .0001% chance it's true!
well that's good for you, however last time i checked i was still one of the many people who got screwed by the guilty until you proved innocent beyond a reasonable doubt, but then those are long complicated and strange story's which might i add none of my lawyers could even comprehend
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