Burnt 996 Rebuild

Hi Guys, I just finished transferring all of the mods off my Vesuvio 996 to my Iris Blue project 996 (Chuck Jones former car...thanks Chuck). I'm already modding it before I even fix the burn damage...go figure. The Iris Blue car now has 18 inch polished factory turbo twist wheels with 295s on the rear, Billy Boat headers & mufflers, RSS plenum, and EVO CAI. It already had a B&M shortshifter, GIAC flash, and PSS9 suspension. I'm planning on pulling the dashboard off this weekend. Does anybody have any advice on how to remove the dash without damaging any of the parts? Also, how does the gas pedal connect to the throttle cable in a non-egas car? I can see a motor assembly that is attached to the top of the gas pedal via a 24 inch long cable....it is cooked. Thanks for any advice. I'll post pictures when I get it apart. My Vesuvio 996 is currently on ebay along with a set of Schnell 996 headers....Happy bidding.

GL Mark, from what I remember the windshield needs replacement also?, maybe it will be easier access if it was off... just thinking out loud.

Dashboard removal... raw knuckles, cursing, sprained neck, more cursing ...Shudder...

Piece o' cake... right...

redridge, you are right about the front windshield. It is cracked, but driveable...I'll pull it as a last resort. Thanks. dresler, you are probably right also. I must be sick because I'm actually looking forward to it....it's a new adventure in Porsche ownership. Loren, thanks for the great pictures. They will definately help. I look forward to meeting you with Chuck one of these days.

If you need a source for interior parts you might check the Boxster spec racing guys. They take 1997-1999 Boxsters and strip the interior, remove the a/c, and so on.

Lookin good, GL on the vesuvio sale, what is your next step on the iris?

Does the picture show the old or new wiring? In either case, it looks very scary to me. I took my door handle out today to fix the little micro switch. That was enough of PIA. You are way adventurous to undertake this project. Can't wait to see it done. Stefan

I can't wait to see it too... took my wife's Saab's dashboard apart 3 times to fix the odometer.. and those pics look even worse!

wow, u def. enjoying doing this!

Mark, I'd taken pictures of the gas pedal assembly in my thread about lubing it up. The '99 cars are still "drive by wire" but they don't cut out the gas when you step on the brake.

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A MY99 C2 is a mechanical cable driven accelerator. The MY99 C4 (and all later models) had egas (drive by wire).

Tool Pants, good advice on the boxter parts, thanks. Michael, Thanks. I'm currently fighting with the dash on the iris 996...I'm trying to remove it without damaging the reusable parts. I don't know what is melted until I get it out. Thanks for the help guys.

Here are a few pictures of todays progress...about an hours worth. The white powder from the dry chemical extinguisher is NASTY...it burns skin, eyes and lungs. I probably should be wearing eye protection and a mask, but it is hard enough to see all the little torx screws as it is. I try to limit my sessions. Does anybody know what kind of amp set up this is? It wasn't hooked up and the stereo is welded in place....I'm guessing it is still the culprit. The fire damage appears limited to the area surrounding the strero and climate control.

Hey Chuck, I have some CDs for you. If I can clean the powder off, they are probably fine.

That was the DSP (digital signal processing) option. On the 996 I think it was used from 1999-2001 and then replaced by the Bose option. That thing above the gas pedal is the cruise control unit for a non e-gas car.

Tool Pants, thanks....I'm hoping that my throttle cable isn't cooked. I'm sure that it will be a major pain to replace if it is. You obviously know your 996s. I'm going to buy the GT3 upper center console delete from Suncoast. I will delete the factory stereo and have an aftermarket stereo system installed after I get the car driveable. That way I don't have to deal with compatibility issues on the wiring harness from the donor car. Does anybody know how to remove the guage cluster???

Mark, Most of these items have already been covered over at my site - http://www.renntech.org

I love pictures !

I can't believe the stereo is welded in place. That is nuts!

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From memory.... pry the hazard bezel, pop the button out (screw in there). Pry microphone (left side) cover (screw in there). Lift entire cluster up... unclip 3 harnesses and two extra screws at back... if my memory serves me right.

Loren, I just joined your site...Thanks. Redridge, your instructions worked perfect. I was afraid to pry on the hazard bexel...the retainers were partially melted. I'm to the point where I'm going to have to use a pry bar on some of the melted plastic...the thought of it makes me cringe.

Mark: I have been looking for one that a friend burned for me that has all the Credence Clearwater and some good rock songs on it....I think it was in the car when it went up.....are they warped? Were they in the CD holder or in the side pockets? There was on BB King CD I really liked. Damn Mark....looking at all those pictures it's no wonder AAA totalled the car. You've got more guts and gumption than most guys to tackle a project like this....it looks a bit overwhelming to me....and it also looks like there was more of a fire than I initially thought. Have you found a replacment airbag and steering wheel yet?

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Considering the topic... too funny!!!! Now, were you talking about a CD or the car?

Chuck, the CD holder is full. They all appear fine, as long as the dry chemical didn't hurt them. There is one in the player that I will try to salvage. The songs might be really burned on there now.

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LOL!!

i think it's time to switch to all leather someone on rennlist sell all leather dashboard. i just can't remember his name, i think his screen name has "928" in it. oh my memory is so bad now.

Tim: You're always on top of it aren't you....you caught my sort-of Freudian slip. Can't get a damn thing by you can I ? Mark: Are you going to be home tomorow? I might take a run up there and pick up the CDs? I also have a stock set of 996 headers if you want them. Won't do me any good.

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Sorry, I can't help it, which is exactly why you think I'm a ********!

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PL - were you thinking of Rob M Budd in this thread? https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...hlight=leather Rob M Budd and 928..... hhmmm.... not seeing the connection. You know as you get older the 2nd thing to go is your memory, but I can't for the life of me remember the 1st thing to go!

I used a air powered rotary cutter (and a prybar) to remove some more melted parts of my dash. The passenger airbag did not deploy in the fire. I am very cautious working around airbags with the cutter.....does anybody know where the bolts are that hold it in? Thanks in advance. The point of origin appears to have been the stereo, as suspected. Here are some pictures.

I sent you the instructions (via a PM from my site). Needless to say be very careful handling an airbag - especially considering the condition of the surrounding area.

Thanks Loren, I really appreciate the help.

Good work so far, alittle at a time and you will be done before you know it.

Thanks mother. I read your post on 6speed about your run down the block with the SC working. Congratulations! I still dream of having one someday.....only two roadblocks...$ and the CA smog issue. I enjoy reading about yours. I have to experience them vicariously for now.

I'm looking for a dyno tester today and regarding the SC power I have been driving my toyota 4 banger around so pretty much anything is a step up, but it is more refined power then my old SS 396's of the day. They make it so hard to have fun in CA anymore but it is doable.

I love the pics of the progress - keep it up. Looks like the amplifier may have melted some wiring that was laying on top of it causing them to short and spark? Your willingness to jump in there with a prybar and a rotory cutter are very admirable. I always wanted to do a project like that with my dad when I was a kid, (but never did) and now hope to do a project like that with my son (due in February) someday. Maybe I will start with something a little less ambitious, but a 16 year old kid with a Porsche he helped restore/fix up over the years - what could be better than that?

Mark: Thanks for taking the time to document your project and sharing the progress with us!

Congratulations on your pending arrival Joe. My three kids helped me with my last Porsche project. My boys are 12 and 14 and we enjoy working on the current project together. I can't wait to help them with their first cars. They both are saving up for 944s....I promised to match every dollar they save, provided they have at least a B average in school. I lucky that my Dad is still around at 80 and is always willing to help me or keep me company. I finally got serious and yanked the dash out of my crispy critter...what a mess! What did I get myself into???Now the fun part starts. I'm not sure why Porsche elected to not put any type of corrosion protection on the support for the Dash. I will definately rectify that problem along the way. I can't believe how much @%#& is lurking behind that dashboard. Down South, my pleasure.

Mark, progress looks good, keep the pics coming - you are a brave man!

Good God man....I look at those pictures and almost feel guilty for selling you that car. It looks like something that hit the garbage junk bin in that scene from StarWars. You need a freakin' electrical engineering degree from MIT to get through that maze. Hat's off to ye' m'lad. I've gotta get up there and take a look at this in person. You've got to be a masochist. And BTW....you can keep the CD's....since they're fused in the back.

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Chuck - you ALMOST feel guilty???? Now who's the ********? You could have, at the very least, lied and said you DID feel guilty! Well, it was nice of you to let Mark keep the "burned" CD's.

Chuck, it's looks pretty bad at this point. Once I rip out all the melted plastic & burnt wiring, I can attack it with my shop vac. It should start looking better soon. It isn't nearly as hopeless as the other one was.

Mark, It looks like this is going to keep you busy for a while. Great pictures!!

agreed - keep the pics and status coming, very interesting.

Is there hope??? Here it is after a little work with the shop vac and a couple more parts removed. Does anybody know what the large plastic box was that sits behind the stereo/climate control and against the firewall? It appears to be the cabin filter/blower motor to the right side of the dash. The center area is too melted to even guess.

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Mark - I think that black box is where Chuck kept his illegally "burned" CD's. Sorry, I don't know what that is.... or rather what that was.

The large black box on the right side of the center console is the HVAC. There should be a small square box at the exact center rear of the center console (mounted at carpet level) - that is the airbag control box.

I don't know Mark....You say this job isn't as bad as the last one you did? Those picrures look like a pot of badly burned spagetti....how you make heads or tales out of that mess is beyond me... Why does some of the dash look like it's all rusted?

Mark, You are brave man. When you're finish, if you're not crazy by then, list all the parts and total cost to repair. As long as everyone is piling on with CD suggestions, how about Disco Inferno.

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Chuck - Mark mentioned that in one of his earlier posts (see below). Seems strange that Porsche opted not to protect that support member from the elements. Even a quick spray of black paint would have reduced the effects of moisture and air.

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I suspect the rust is from the dry chemical fire extinguisher. They are horribly corrosive. Halon is the way to go if you have to use one.

Loren, the box that I was referring to is the melted mess against the firewall about 18 inched behind the airbag control unit. I'm guessing from looking at my other car, it is more of the climate control system. Duane, "Disco Inferno" was a good one! I found all the parts I need for $1,000. provided they aren't sold by the time I sell one of my other cars to finance the rebuild. Loren, I agree that Halon is the only way to go. The corrosion appears to have been there before the fire....it is spread evenly across the support, in areas where the fire and dry chemical did not go. The header panel under the windshield (on the inside) is painted body color. I will prime the header panel & dash support (after cleaning) and paint them Iris Blue.

Loren: Are you saying that the dry fire extinguisher caused the rusted condition behind that dash? Could this have been the result of something that happened before I bought the car? I just can't imagine that much rust coming from a dry powder extinguisher. The CarFax came back clear on this car so it wasnt' a flood victim....very strange....and a bit disturbing. Could the rust and oxidation possibly have been the cause of the short that caused the fire? Everything under that dash was factory.

Well, the chassis is completely painted at the factory so that part of the dash had paint at one time. I suspect that the heat from the fire melted the paint off and between the oxidation from the fire and the chemical extinguisher what you are left with is rusted (bare) metal.

Since that is where the fire was most intense, that does make sense....burned off the protective paint, and oxidized. I had to chuckle to myself just now as we're discussing the rust, kuz when the car was burning and the fire department rolled up behind me as I was standing on the grass watching, one of the guys started unrolling a hose.....and I walked up to him and said ....."OH C'MON MAN, please don't use water on it". By then, the CHP officer who called it in had already blasted it two times with the chemical extinguisher and it was just smoldering. The guy put down the hose reel and walked over and knelt down and looked under the dash and agreed that it didnt' need any more "suppressant". Can you imagine what a shot of water would have done to that car? It's still curious that it's just that particular area all the way across that's rusted.

The far right side of the support has a coating of oxidation that is identical to the center and the far left side. The far right and left sides were not exposed to heat from the fire and they had very little exposure to the dry chemical. It would appear that this car left the factory with no protective coating on the dash support.

Is the motor still usable? did you have to remove it or did you just want to get it out to paint in there?

Joe, if you are referring to the heater blower motor, it apears usable. I'm purchasing everything behind the dash on the donor car, so I might have couple extra parts. I want everything out of the dash area so I can paint where appropriate, and restore the factory padding/insulation. I should be picking up the donor parts on Tuesday. I'm excited. It is very tempting to remove a lot of extra weight while I have the interior apart...air bag assemblies, center console, carpet & padding, sound system, etc. I plan on tracking the car and I know that reducing weight will add to the benefit of the mods installed: B&M ssk, RSS plenum, EVO CAI, Billy Boat headers & Mufflers, GIAC Flash, PSS9 suspension, 295 rear tires, etc. I also know that I will need a new clutch and a upgraded clutch combined with a LWFW is also very tempting. I need to draw a line so the car will remain comfortable on the street and still be a fun weekend track toy. A MK1 aerokit and EVO SC would certainly be icing on the cake......

Hi Guys...just an update on the progress of my iris blue 996 project car. I now have all the parts to complete my project. Here are some pictures of the donor dash and wiring harness, heater core, etc. I also just got a great deal from a fellow rennlister on a OEM taco tail ($800) He was great to deal with. . I found an oem mk1 front bumper on ebay for $840. I am now into the iris blue 996 for about $13,200. I will still need to buy the side skirts (used OEM) and have the aerokit painted. I have already installed the mods from my "Sold" vesuvio 996 to the iris blue 996. The car now has an EVO CAI, RSS Plenum, Billy Boat headers & Mufflers, GIAC Flash, B&M SSK, Bilstein PSS9s, GT3 center console delete, OEM polished turbo twists with painted emblems on polished metal caps. I will eventually install an aftermarket stereo, roll bar, aluminum pedals, and a upgraded clutch with a LWFW. I can't wait to drive my new toy. I have some serious work left to do on the dash. As you can see. Hopefully it will look like the final picture someday...in my dreams, it already does.

Here is a picture that shows the main dash support and wiring. I painted the support because apparently in 99, Porsche put no protective coating on the dash support. I'll sleep better knowing that mine isn't covered with corrosion...did I mention that I'm ****? The dead spots on the grass are from engine cleaner (Gunk) that I used on my exhaust system prior to reinstalling it. They are in the shape of mufflers and headers. Oops!

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I thought the dead grass spots were miniature crop circles. Keep up the good work.

Mark: Did you sell the Vesuvio? When we last talked you indicated a Rennlister was going to buy it....did the sale go through? If so, you need to change your signature block.

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Uhmm Chuck...... ditto for you since you sold the crispy critter! I know, I know, this is why you think I'm a ********!

Mark, this looks insane!...beautifull!! keep up the good work!

Tim: I see you're starting to answer to your name. Who says you can't teach an old dog a new name....er....something like that anyway. I went up to visit Mark the day he took that picture of the wiring spread out on the lawn. I can see now why AAA insurance decided to total the car....I am sure that Mark knows what he's doing...sort of....but that project looks like Mission Impossible to me. This is automotive neurosurgery at its most complex. This last picture is what Mark envisions the Iris Blue car will look like after he finishes it up. He already bought the aero kit.......but let's see....the blue wire hooks up to the grey and white one, and the black one goes to the orange box, and the purple one goes.....................

I haven't posted any update on my project car for a while. I just finished removing one of the last burnt items from behind the dash. The heater/AC unit took the brunt of the heat. I was surprised to find that the sound pad on the firewall was barely scorched....I expected to find more damage. I need to remove the seats & carpet. Then I can do the last clean-up work, touch up some paint behind the dash, and start putting the new parts back on. There is almost a light at the end of the tunnel. Better a light than a fire I suppose....

It was the Porsche that peed on the garage floor....not me.

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BTW - nice progress. Thanks for the update.

Holy Smokes! keep up the good work Mark!

Thanks Tim. Redridge, thanks for the motivation...I have your car with the polished turbo twist wheels as my screen saver right now. If mine looks half as good as yours when I'm done, I'll be happy. I enjoy your 996 picture post over on 6speed. I will need a new clutch soon after I get the car finished. I'm excited about upgrading to the LWFW. Most of the feedback looks pretty positive.

Looking good! Glad to see the fire extinguisher at the ready!!

Good Lord! What a project. I looked back in the posts and can't find the story behind this car. Was this your car or a salvaged title situation...price paid if you are comfortable sharing. I have to hand it to you, wiring is not something I feel comfortable messing with...I'm getting a headache just thinking about it.

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Greg, that was Chuck Jones' car and it caught on fire one day while he was driving it. Chuck then got a TT with X-50. Chuck and Mark met a while back when Mark was rebuilding a '99 which also had a fire (back end that time) which Mark recently sold. Chuck sold the car to Mark. By the time Mark finishes with this one he will have rebuilt virtually an entire 996 (1st car rear half, 2nd car front half).

Gregory, I paid $11,900 for the car. It has 32,000 miles and no paint or body damage. I bought all the parts needed to fix it from SilverStar Recycling for $1,000. I transferred my mods from my other car. I sold the mufflers and headers off it for $400. I'm into it for a total of $12,500. (not counting the oem MK1 aerokit that I bought for $1,600...plus shipping) I get a headache thinking about it also. Jonesn, good spot on the fire extinguisher.

Amazing!

mfletch: did you ever sell your other P?

Mark, you are my hero. I can't believe you are doing this...I would love to do something like this someday, as I get such a kick out of saving money and doing the work myself (it must be my alter-ego, since my day-to-day office job requires no dexterity or getting even remotely dirty/bloody). Please keep us updated. By the way, I still have the ac surround if you end up needing it!

Mark, nice progress. Keep the pics coming! Best of luck!

Mark, I have been away and just caught up with this project. Gotta love the MK1 aeros.. Yours will be one of a kind. Are you looking for a set of sport design rims like the picture you posted?

Mark: Keep up the great work! There's NO WAY I could put it back together again.

Thanks for the kind words guys. I really appreciate it. I am Porscheless until I get this done, so I have lots of motivation. My daily driver is now a 03 BMW 330i. The slogan is true..."there is no substitute". Each hour spent brings me a little closer. I need to remove the center console and then the carpet. I am going to buy a spray can of factory colored paint so I can paint the underside of the dash support/firewall area. I am the only person that will ever know or care. If I wasn't so ****, this would go a lot faster. Carlo$, the vesuvio 996 went to it's new owner last week via transport. I understand your reluctance on the tittronic . I'm obviously going back to a stick for my toy car. Scott, you would enjoy doing a project car. Judging from the quality of the mods you have already done, you definately have the ability and patience. It has been a great bonding experience with my wife and kids. I got a AC surround off the donor car. Thanks for the kind offer. DFC, thanks. chsu74, I love the sport design wheels. Redridge has been kind enough to send me pictures of his aero 996 with those and the polished turbo twist wheels that I have. I should be happy with those for a while. Later, I would love to get sport design wheels and mount some track only tires on them. Down south, thanks. I keep wondering if I'll be able to get it back together. The more parts I have to remove, the more I worry.

I keep one thing in mind when doing projects is that my mind is no good anymore. Take plenty of pictures as you go even when you think you will remember. I have to laugh alittle when you said you hoped you did not have to take out the interior like I did . Many including me I'm sure hope you do not leave this forum soon after your project is completed because your knowledge will really be missed. For something to look forward to, this is not the scariest part ... turning the car over for the first time is...!!! Keep it up looks good so far, if that makes any sense.

Mark, that thing has come such a long way, keep up the good work!

Seriously, that's great work. When I retire I'm going to do this full-time. Who am I bull****ting when I retire they'll be shoveling dirt on my casket.

Mother, I'm up to 160 pictures of just the dash. Your advice is obviously the voice of experience. I found out the hard way, the first time around. I regretted not taking enough pictures. I briefly considered trying to splice carpet and wires so I didn't have to rip the interior apart. I will sleep better knowing that I did it right the first time around. I told myself that I would never part with my vesuvio 996...it was a labor of love. This time I really mean it. I'm going to hang on to this one (unless someday a GT3 or turbo project car finds it's way into my garage ) I really didn't mean that. This one is probably pushing my wonderful wife's tolerance. I should find a hobby that isn't so hard on our checking account. Thanks for the encouragement. I'm seriously impressed with what you did with your project. I bet it is all worth it now that you get to enjoy the incredible acceleration. The vesuvio car didn't start when I finally finished it. I had to have it towed to the dealer...the new key had to be programmed. Michael and Riad, thanks guys. I would find something less stressful to do full-time when you retire or you might be pushing up daisies prematurely...I guess there are worse things you could do prematurely.

It's Naked! I just finished (with the help of my 14 year old son) removing the last of the burnt interior. I have a little clean-up work to do and then the fun part starts. I get to try and remember how to put everything back together. It sure is tempting to gut the interior and make the car a whole lot faster.

This thread is a little little like watching the A-team (remember Mr. T). The end result of this endeavor will be well worth it, and from the looks of your patience and attention to detail, better than the day it rolled out of Zuffenhausen. If I lived closer, I would find reasons to come over to watch and help (read stand in the way). Keep the updates coming. At some point, I'll be using this thread as a reference to see what's behind that dash. Awesome. Stefan

Stefan, I'm actually old enough to remember them. Thanks for the kind words. If you lived closer, I would enjoy the company.

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Might be more like MacGyver, he did better quality work than the A-Team Really nice job! with I had the time or patience for such a project.

[QUOTE=Marc Gelefsky;4855972]Might be more like MacGyver, he did better quality work than the A-Team I would agree, but suspect he won't be using any duct tape. Stefan

AWESOME work! I keep checking in on this thread,the pictures you provide keep it interesting. Thanks. Did you weigh the interior carpet trim to see how much it weighted? Was there some form of insulation between the carpet and the floorboard?

Thanks Marc. Blinkwatt, Thank You. The carpet has a thick foam backing that is contoured to the shape of the floors. I would guess all of the carpet weighs about 30-40 lbs. The passenger side front airbag probably weighs about 10. There is definately a lot of extra weight with the stereo system, carpet & interior panels and the heater/AC unit.

QUOTE=Mfletch;4858133]Thanks Marc. Blinkwatt, Thank You. The carpet has a thick foam backing that is contoured to the shape of the floors. I would guess all of the carpet weighs about 30-40 lbs. The passenger side front airbag probably weighs about 10. There is definately a lot of extra weight with the stereo system, carpet & interior panels and the heater/AC unit.[/QUOTE] Curious as a member do you get more Megs for uploading images? I have to keep robbing Paul to Pay Mary regarding my images?

Mother, I'm pretty illiterate when it comes to digital images. I have never had problems uploading images on this site. I hope your SC belt holds up. Good luck. My wife's 99 Range Rover has a custom SC that gave me fits when I first got the car. It runs two additional injectors on a seperate fuel rail with a Split Second additional injector controller. I eventually had to buy another AIC from the tuner with his proprietary program. I wasted a lot of money trying to find someone else to program one for me. You are doing a great job with your project....the teething pains will be worth it in the end.

Man Mark, keep the pic's coming. If I were doing this project, I'd be tempted to do some "lightening" mods. Nothing that woud make the car unlivable or ugly, just stuff that most people wouldn't care about or notice, like putting the carpet on without the foam backing (I bet you'd save at least 30 lbs), and taking out the rear and side speakers and leaving just the dash speakers). Removing airbags also would be tempting, even if not very safe (for a track car, for sure).

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Yeah, that would be my problem, too. I have this mental image of me standing in my garage with bloody knuckles and a completely disassembled Porsche desperately trying to recall what made me think it would be a good idea to "fix" it.

Scott, it really is tempting to put it on a serious diet. My previous track car (420hp fox body Saleen)became so uncomfortable, loud, and obnoxious that I rarely drove it. I finally sold it to a buddy from work who now rarely drives it (he got in a little trouble at work over his escapades in it). Keeping that in mind, I will probably keep it very streetable. I may drive it around a little after I get the dash reinstalled with the interior still gutted just to see. TooLoud, I have that thought every night when I look at it. I used to wonder why the dealer would charge $25,000 to fix it....now I know. My wonderful wife and I prepped the header panel (?) under the front windshield for paint and replaced the sound pad on the firewall. I bought some primer and had a spray can of iris blue metallic made up. We will mask and spray it tomorrow. Beats hanging Christmas lights.

mfletch, I dont know if this is worth while to you but I just happen to bump into this post.... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsc...ayphotohosting

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Well, that cluster part number is from a GT2 - so I suspect that the harness is too. Wrong cluster set for a MY99 Carrera - I don't think it will work.

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Nice find! hopefully it works for Mark. Keep up the good work, Mark.

Redridge, thanks for thinking of me. I saw that, it is for the back half of the car. I still have a spare from when I did the vesuvio car. I bid on their leather passenger airbag cover, but gave up when it cleared $200. I can get the correct (cheesy basketball material) one for $189 from Sunset. Oh well...

oooops, Im gonna make my contribution to your project one day....

redridge, you already have....you provided the inspiration. Thanks for the great screen saver. What are your thoughts on the LWFW. I was sold on them until I saw the rennlist classified yesterday. A tuner has a used one here that the customer had removed after 15 minutes. I think I might want a test drive with one before I do it.

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yeah, a test drive is your best bet... The LWFW will change your driving style. It will rev up quicker, but it will also rev down quicker as well... I would like to test drive one for like an hour or so, I only drove one for 10 min... that would be nice!... If you gonna track often, Id say...DO IT! Here is an interesting article... its for a vette though. http://www.vetteweb.com/tech/0407vet...ion/index.html

Redridge, great article. Thanks for the info. Are you going to go for the LWFW? It sounds like fun, if it isn't too obnoxious. My wonderful wife helped me mask and paint the area behind the dash. I'm finally ready to start reassembling the car. I also coughed up a couple extra dollars and bought the leather airbag cover. I saw this leather instrument cover from "The 928 Leather Shop" on ebay. I'm going to get this also. Hopefully it will improve the look of the plastic dash.

You are still my hero - I cannot decide if it looked more scary as a burned up mess, or as a cleaned up and painted shell. Cutting those wire bunches that come through the firewall would be tough for me. I know they are all color coded, but still. Will you get a new harness and trace all of those backk to their oroginating spot, or just cut and splice them where they are?

Joe, thanks. I don't plan on doing any splicing, if I can help it. I have the new (used) harness sitting next to the car. It is attached to the main dash support. I left the cut sections of the harness in (just to plug the holes) so paint wouldn't go into the front hood area. It will also make it easier to indentify which parts of the new harness go through which holes. I took several pictures of the donor car to help me figure out where everything goes.

Mark - were you able to get the nuts on the air bag control module removed?

Looks better already Mark. Regarding the leather, the 928 leather shop is a site sponser, you could probably get a better price directly instead of ebay fwiw. https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...eather+console

Tim, I forgot to call on it today. I have to go to SilverStar Recycling tomorrow to get a couple Porsche & Rover parts. They have offered to let me borrow specialized tools before...I might take them up on this one. DFC, I didn't know that...thanks for telling me. I always appreciate the opportunity to save a couple dollars on parts.

Mark, I have one thing to say. You can quit your day job. Absolutely amazing. Jay

Do I remember reading that you bought most of the parts for behind the dash for $1000? That seems super cheap. I wish you lived closer - I spent 4 hours hanging out at in my buddies' garage this past Saturday watching/helping him replace his water heater. You would have to throw me out of there at dark if I could help with this project.

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How are you liking Silverstar Recycling? I've found them to be HIGH on used prices. Have you check out Mazda Porsche,it's in the same junkyard section. I've dealt with them,cool people,I think the kids(18-23) run the shop and the adults take everything apart. Keep the pictures coming.

Jay, thanks. I'm lucky to have a day (swingshift) job that I love. If I had to rely on this for income, it probably wouldn't be fun. I enjoy buying the project cars, I hate parting with them. Joe, I got a great deal on the parts. I deal with manager, Ryan. I have bought 4 cars from them, so they give me a break on package deals. I would enjoy your company if we were closer. I miss living by the beach. I lived in Hermosa, Redondo, and El Segundo for several years. Blinkwatt, Silverstar will negotiate on some prices...talk to Ryan. MazdaPorsche has a better selection of 996 parts...I'm going there also tomorrow. The kid, Sam, is the owner...his dad works for him. They are both a pleasure to deal with.

My project still looks pretty hopeless ...at least it is headed in the right direction. It was a real adventure getting the heater/AC unit and dash support installed. There are two major sections of the wiring harness that go in behind the heater/AC unit, then the heater/AC gets installed, and finally the dash support goes in. They had to go in together, so I didn't have to completly seperate the wiring harness from the dash support. It took me two tries ....half the wires go under the heater/AC, the rest go over. I'm glad I took lots of pictures of the donor car.

Looking good!

Mark, I think your last post is off topic. This is the 996 board, not the 747 board. Dash from a 747 right? Mind boggling!

Mark- Have you ever reached a point when you thought you were over your head, facing issues that seemed impossible to overcome, that would prevent further progress in this rebuild? i give you credit in the perserverance area on this project.

WOW Mark, that looks very confusing! Hats off to you! If that was me, I would have hung myself with one of the wiring harnesses by now!

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Could not have said it better myself. Like watching one of those FAA investigations on tv with burned out parts and junk laying everywhere. Looks like good progress though.

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Don't feel to bad I had to take my SC off 3 times in the last 3 days because I did something wrong installing a simple belt. Last time I think I yelled so loud the whole neighborhood heard and set off some car alarms. Oh! keep it up and misery does like company.

Mark: It's been confirmed that you're a documented masochist. I'm beginning to feel badly about selling it to you.....How's your Valium intake? Or is it a good Merlot? Lots of Merlot..... BTW...Merry Xmas....are you going to have it under the tree all put together by Xmas Eve? Chuck

Doug, thanks. Gregory, that is a very good comparison. I miss the days of carbs and distributors. I should be doing this to a rare muscle car instead. Barn, I think I'm there right now. I told my wife a couple days ago that I wouldn't be doing any more project cars for a while (or ever) after this one. I'm in the middle of the most difficult part of the rebuild right now. I'm facing a couple issues that are definately challenging. I'm currently Porscheless, so I have some pretty good motivation. Tim, Thanks. I already tried to gas myself when I unintentionally broke the seal on the AC system with my face right next to it. Joe, thanks. Mother, thanks for the inspiration. Mine seems easy compared to what you are doing. My kids have learned a few new words while I'm working on the car. Good luck with yours. Chuck, my next car is going to be something with a warranty. In the next two days, I have to go over to your neck of the woods. How does lunch sound?

Mark, make Chuck buy you lunch! That is the least he could do! Hi Chuck!

Just two words: Holy crap. I thought it was hard work to install a spoiler indicator light behind a blank switch plate. Awesome stuff.

Come on guys, what could be easier? Everything is color coded, and there is nothing in the way. Stefan

Tim, good idea...I'll give it a try. Carpundit, thanks...this project gives me nightmares. Stefan, if this was rocket science, I sure wouldn't be doing it... Nothing a little duct tape and super glue won't fix.

Mark: I tried calling your house several times....your damn robot keeps answering....YES on lunch...give my cell a call and as Tim so blatantly stated....I guess I'd better buy you lunch for selling you that wiring nightmare. This is obviously not going to be one of those projects like the potato chip add....Bechha' can't do jes one!! Get ahold of me tomorrow.....lunch on the horizon fer shure.

Yea, right..... Ha! ha! -Charles

Charles, you sound an awful lot like my wife. Ok, so maybe I could be tempted again by just the right car...

I took a much need break from the project over the holidays. I'm back on it with renewed enthusiasm. Santa (aka: wifey) brought some mods for the interior that I'm anxious to install. This part of the rebuild is actually enjoyable. I'm glad I took lots of pictures of the donor car. I'm almost done with the passenger side of the dash. The driver's side will be a little more challenging. The first order of business on the driver's side will be to remove & replace the steering column. The old column wasn't damaged by the fire. It was discolored by the dry chemical from the fire extinguisher.

WOW! It never ceases to amaze me.

Looks good Mark, keep the pics/updates coming!

This is my favorite thread of all time. I get to see all the pics, but don't have to do any of the work. I love that Momo wheel - great feel on the hands. I had one on my 89 Turbo. God I miss that car. Keep up the good work

Thanks guys, I appreciate the words of encouragement. Joe, I was a little worried about the suede. It feels really nice, but I don't know how it will hold up. I love all versions of the 911 turbo, both old and new. Someday I hope to own one. Tippy's new ride is gorgeous. I had the pleasure of driving several 996 turbos when Chuck Jones was shopping for his (including his X50). The power is addictive.

Mark, you should contact one of the 911 magazines and have them right an article about this. This is something you don't see every day. Jay

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Mark, maybe you can buy CHuck's TT after he turns it into a B-B-Q pit.

Tim: Do you actually put food into that dirty mouth?

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Chuck, I hadn't seen you around here for a while so I thought this may get a response form you. No harm intended. How is that sweet TT treating you? Do you have any additional mods planned?

Looking great!! I did the same thing with a 78' Trans-Am when I was about 20- which was much easier to replace the dash than the 996 that's for sure.

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If it's suede, probably not well. If it's Alcantara, you might be amazed. That stuff takes incredible punishment and still looks and naps like suede.

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ok my contribution. I have the LWFW. It does all the things good things that redridge says it does. It does clack a bit sometimes (not always) at idle when the clutch is out. Also you hear it rattle a bit when you are being lazy and not downshifting and trying to accelerate a little in say 5th gear down at a low rpm like under 2k. Hardly ever happens. Cheers! Paul

Wow Mark, this thing has come such a long way. Great Work!! Keep it up, such an impressive rebuild!

Jay, someone here suggested that I submit the details of my previous rebuild (99 vesuvio 996 that had an engine fire) to Excellence magazine. I submitted it to them via email. I never received a response. Thanks for the suggestion. Tim, nice idea...maybe you should suggest that he upgrade his stereo. Riad, thanks. I miss the simplicity of the older cars. I learned how to drive in a 69 Trans Am. BruceP, I hope it's Alcantara...it sure feels nice! Paul, thanks for the info on the LWFW...It should be a fun upgrade after I get the car running. Michael, thank you. I finished the passenger side of the dash today including the wiring that goes along the side of the floor pan. I came across one part that I can not figure out how to mount. It is a small fan and sensor that mounts next to the back of the AC/heater blower. I have a picture of it installed on the donor car and I still can't figure out how or where it attaches . In the following pictures it is visible. Does anyone know what it is or where it attaches? Thanks for any information.

if the part number of the mystery piece is 996 653 241 00, then it is the side vent interior sensor. It goes next to the passenger vent.

Orient Express, thanks you. That is the correct part. I still can't figure out what it mounts to. I found a picture of it when I removed the old dash. It must have been mounted to the foam pad under the passenger side of the dash or the dash itself.

Mark: Looks like your'e making progress....that painted dash support makes a lot of difference. I still cant' figure why Porsche didn't paint it in the building process. You're developing quite a following of devotees to your ongoing project. You're getting a reputation for not just being a mechanic, but more of a neurosurgeon with all those wiring circuits. I still think you were a masochist for buying that car....but I'll be eating my words when you fire it up and take it out to Salmon Falls. I want to be there for the occasion and take some pictures. Tried to call you today to come up...your robot answered. I'd like to see the progress your're making. Give me a call when you have time for lunch. My TT went to the shop today...see the post under "Throwing random CEL codes"....sort of annoys me. My old Iris Blue 996 was more reliable...hate to say it....but I sort of miss the old gal. But she's in good hands now.

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Mark - Item 17 in the diagram

Mark: The sensor sits next (under?) the air duct on the passenger side air vent. There is a grille on that air vent that allows the sensor to suck cabin air in. Chances are there is some sort of mounting there.

Loren and Orient, thanks guys. I really appreciate you taking the time to answer my question . Now I can concentrate on the driver's side of the dash. If I work hard, I might be able to start my car by this weekend . There is a light at the end of the tunnel (now if I could just find the wiring for it ). Chuck, I'll give you a call this afternoon. The service advisor at Niello that has helped me out several times is David Welling. He is a great guy.

It's getting closer. I got a great deal on some new OEM MK1 sideskirts from DPS $449.00. I have the Driver's side wiring done. This weekend I should be able to finish the wiring(splicing the old section to the new....about 60-70 connections), install the new steering column, and hopefully fire it up (bad choice of words). I will install the carpet, seats, center console, and dash cover after I start the car. I did a little touch up painting on the dash support....I couldn't stand knowing that it was lurking behind the dash without the paint being perfect. I have also spent a lot of time re-doing the factory tape on the wiring harness. It didn't stick very well. I use friction tape which is similar in appearance, but sticks better. It provides a little extra protection for the wires. I ran out of it today. I have to drive about an hour tomorrow to get a couple more rolls. It was very difficult to find. The little details are important to do right rather than settling for just getting the job done. Porsche used cloth tape to secure the wiring to plastic fasteners that attach to the floor pans. I upgraded to zip ties. They are stronger and look better. My biggest compatability issue with the donor harness is the traction control switch. The T/C switch has five wires coming off the back. I traced three wires to the brake ABS unit. A mechanic at Niello Porsche (who helped me several times with the rebuild of my Vesuvio 996) told me that the other two wires are common wires that I can splice into at the fuse box. I have always been impressed with how helpful Niello Porsche has been with my projects. I have called numerous times over the past four years. I deal with a specific mechanic, David. I never have a problem getting him on the phone and he is always generous with his time. He offered to fax me sections of the manual to assist me. The service advisor, David Welling, has also been very helpful. I have nothing but good things to say about these guys. They help make Porsche ownership a pleasure.

Getting closer each day Mark, it looks great. and I can't wait to see the dash in (so I can actually recognize the car!). You mentioned manuals, have you tried http://www.cannell.co.uk/Manuals.htm Best of luck, and keep the pics coming.

Mark, Thanks for the update. I have really enjoyed watching this project progress. I noticed on the other thread that Chuck bought you lunch the other day. Good for Chuck! I hope you get her fired up... ah, I mean.... started this weekend. When do you plan on replacing the windshield? Once it starts up, how long do you estimate it will take you to put her back together again and get it completely finished?

Mark - you have my respect for your projects - this is looking awesome! ... rather you than me though - that sight would scare the life out of me, I'd never be able to put that jigsaw together. I had a suggestion for another mod... aluminum pedals

As I was reading a couple of your posts and laughing it came to mind during your first power up to have one battery cable loose to quickly remove if things don't go as expected or are you testing as you go along?

Don, that manual information is fantastic. I did my first project about 4-5 years ago. At that time the manuals were over $2,000 from the dealer and were not available elsewhere. Times have changed. Thany you very much. That information will definately come in handy before this project is finished. Tim, I haven't even priced windshields yet. The old one is cracked but does not obstruct the driver's vision. I will drive it for a couple days before I worry about it... Does anybody know how much for a windshield? I have transferred all the mods from my other car long ago, so mechanically, it should be ready to go. I would anticipate less than a week to take care of installing the Momo steering wheel, aluminum pedals, carpet, and seats. I suppose I should probably put the doors back on also. I will probably drive it as-is for a few weeks before I worry about installing the aero kit....it will make me appreciate it more. I'm also anxious to upgrade the clutch and go to the LWFW. It never ends... Wellardmac, you are the one that recommended DPS for the aero parts, thanks. Check out the attached pictures. Mother, you must be a mind reader. I will have someone standing on fire supression duty when I try to start it. Thanks for all the kind words guys. My next post will be after it is alive (I hope).

I'd forgotten about the aero recommendation. I'm glad it worked out - also glad to see the aluminum pedals waiting to go.

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Mark - glad it helped! I actually bought a cd of this info (this site has been up and down, so download everything while you can!) becasue I wanted to learn as much as I could about my car, it's the nerd engineer in me. I really wish I had the time - more importantly the talent - to tackle a project like yours; maybe someday...

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Yeah, me too, but since I wouldn't know what I was doing half of the time, I would probbly purposly start the back end of the car on fire, just to make it all look the same.

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If you know half the time, you are already ahead of me!

Mark>>>>>today is Saturday...are you going to get it fired up by tomorrow? If so, I'd like to be there when you get the old girl going again....keep in touch. We'll have to break a bottle of champaign over the bow as she slides down the ramp.

The suspense is killing me. Looks great so far. Good luck today. Stefan

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Me too... I didn't see any Porsche fire movies posted on youtube yet

I went by there today and took a look at Mark's progress....he's getting it to the final stages. Since the blue gal had a propensity for "lighting up", I left Mark my Halon extinguisher and told him to call me when he starts it for the first time. I took some pictures of Mark's progress today....but am having trouble getting them to load in the forum. I'm still amazed when I see him sitting in there with all that wiring all over the place....there's just no way I'd be able to remember where tab A went into tab B. Great job Mark....Hope you can get it to start...(was going to say get it to "fire up" but thought better of it).....

I should have remembered from my last project car that there are always teething problems near the end of a project. With my luck, whatever can go wrong, usually does. I used the donor harness for everything from the firewall back to behind the seats. I retained the original harness from the firewall forward for two reasons...the traction control on the driver's side and the donor harness came from a car with a different stereo system on the passenger side (my car had the DSP system). I spliced the driver's side just to the rear of the firewall. I spliced the passenger side just in front of the firewall. I ended up having to make a couple trips downtown to an electronics specialty store to get the right size and type of shrink wrap. I soldered, shrink wrapped, and friction taped each connection to insure no chance of a stray strand of wire protruding through the shrinkwrap and causing a short. I discovered some damaged paint under the wiper assembly. I removed that and took care of the damaged paint. I ended up with some extra wires on each side....not good. I anticipated 3 extra wires on the driver's side from the original harness for the traction control. I also anticipated some extra wires on the passenger side due to the differences in stereo systems. I did not anticipate the following: a green/yellow wire and brown/red wire on the driver's side coming from the donor harness, green/black, purple/white, purple/pink, purple/green, and white/red wires coming from the original harness on the driver's side. From the passenger side I had a green/yellow and yellow/black wire coming from the donor harness. From the original harness I had white/blue, grey/pink, white/black, white/green, white/brown, and white/red wires left over (the last 6 wires were expected due to the DSP amp). I obviously need to figure out where all the extra wires go prior to powering up the car. I'm guessing that they are due to different options between the donor car and mine that I did not anticipate such as a two tone horn or headlight washer, litronics, etc. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I spoke with my favorite mechanic at the dealer and realized that they do not deal with such issues. They would just order a new harness for the car by the vin number.....not an option for me. To top everything off, I put a towel and a 2 inch thick piece of foam on each fender to protect them whicle I was working under the front hood. I know that the metal is fairly thin, but I had to lean on it because I'm currently between back surgery number 5 and 6. I managed to put three ripples on the passenger side fender and one on the driver's side. I'm waiting for my paintless dent guy to come over and give me the bad news.

Geeezz Mark...really sorry to hear this after all the hours and hours you spent making sure that each connection was done just right....and now you've got "extra stuff" to content with. Is there any way to get any sort of listing of what the various color coded wires go to/from? I know....after all of this effort you've put into this, that you're not going to be one of those potatoe chip guys who say....."betcha can't have jes' one". I have no doubt that you'll eventually wade thru this, but it has to be disheartening. Just keep the Halon extinguisher there till after you've fired her up....er, after you've started her up....and let me know when you're close to the final moment. I still want to take some pics of you to post so the guys can see the final product. In the meantime, get some rest and walk away from it for a while. Chuck

Thanks Chuck. Barrett-Jackson makes a great distraction....prices appear to be down. I have seen a lot of cars that didn't make the cost of the restoration. It is a good year to be a buyer. You migh want to keep the 930 and and enjoy all the new horsepower.

I was going to put some money into bringing her up to concours then selling her, but after all this time and buying all these various performance parts, I'm going to keep her for a bit longer. She sure likes this cold weather with the dense air.....stays on boost a long time. Ron at IPB is gave me a list of to-do's.....mostly gaskets. Be sure to let me know if there's anything I can do for you....like chase down parts down here. I have your factory horns set aside to give you....and need any excuse to go somewhere. Chuck

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If you are in phoenix give me a call/pm we can go the BJ car show since this is my part of town. Just my take: As far as extra wires I do not think at this point it is crucial and can be checked for current. If it has current then you can see what works with power on and go from there and can always insulate as a temp measure and allow time for you to see progress and see what does not work in the car as to give you a clue and backtrack from there so to speak. When I did mine I pulled some relays out (DME, Fuel Pump, Ignition fuse etc. that I was unsure or may cause problems and put them back in one at a time and observed the results . As with all projects there always comes a time to "kick the tires and light the fires big daddy." Heres a link to boxster relay panel visual if needed. http://www.theschillings.com/boxrelay.htm To bad about the dent, but it could be worse by leaning against the car with a belt buckle at the same time hopefully they will just pop out.

Mother, I figured that you would understand my current (no pun) dilemma. I almost took my Dad to see Barrett-Jackson in person....we decided to watch it on the speed channel instead. If we go next year, I'll PM you. I would enjoy getting to see your project in person. I have been looking at the wiring diagrams for the past couple hours...you are right, I should still be able to power up the car. Thanks for the link. I am the only person that will ever see the dents, but they would drive me nuts. My paintless dent guy has worked miracles on my other cars, I'm optomistic at this point. Thanks.

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Sorry for the ignorance, but why is that not an option? Cost? Too far along? Engine change? CP

Mark, sorry to hear about the "extra" wires and the fenders. What a bummer! I am sure you can get this worked out and will soon be able to, as Chuck would say, get her fired up. Have you given her a name yet. I think that Indigo Inferno would be very fitting. Chuck, nice of you to offer to help run down parts. Mark, make sure you take him up on that offer. If nothing else, you might be able to get another free lunch out of him.

Mark - bummer about the dents and wires. As many have said, a short break may help bring things to clarity. Based on what you have tackled so far, I doubt that this will be any more than a small bump (no pun intended); you will get it resolved soon.

Mark... do you have schematics? If not I can send it to you? PM me your adress.... or do I remember you have the cd? can you track the wire colors this way and find out what those options were?

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Red - Nice offer!

Mark has schematics

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Ahhh, I should have known you already had him covered!

Mark, thanks for keeping us updated on your progress...good or bad. Great to see the car moving along!

Thanks for the support guys. There are some incredible people here. Loren was kind enough the send me the information that I needed to help resolve my issues. I have never had the pleasure of meeiting him...yet, he offered to come over to my house and help me with his Porsche diagnostic computer. I have never met Don (DFC here) either....he read through the wiring diagrams and offered me his opinion on where my spare wires go in the form of about a page long PM. He has an electrical engineering background , so I really value his expertise. Redridge and Chuck, thanks for the nice offers. It's guys like these that really make this site a pleasure to be a part of. CP, my budget does not permit me to buy a new harness. I priced a new engine harness on my previous project and it was well over $2,000. The estimate from the dealer to repair this car was $25,000....I'm sure a large chunk of that was parts....I would guess the dash harness is over $5,000 new, based on the price of the engine harness. Tim, I hope indigo inferno is not an appropriate name after I power her up...I insured her yesterday, just in case. bk12, thanks. I hooked up the heater core and installed the battery today. As soon as I figure how to swap the ignition switch from my old column to the new one, I will power it up!

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Thanks for the answer. I wish there were something I could do to help, but I have no expertise to offer. All I can send are my continued best wishes. CP

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Regarding ignition switch I'm am not sure I think there is a small hole on the key assy itself and you push it just not sure. But too remove the lock assy it's pretty easy. 1. Loosen 2 set screws with small screw driver (reg) in the large electrical connector at back of lock assy they will be painted pink/red (scratch paint off) pull connector off. 2. Disconnect any connectors on lock assy and remove the (1) I think 8 or 10mm bolt holding lock assy in the steering column. 3. Insert key turn to to position (1) then look for a pin at the 12 oclock position on lock assy at column and push it down using the small screw driver or something similar and jiggle assy out. Here's a link when I did mine but it was a pain because the key would not turn. Also run a search there for other links. Hope this helps http://www.renntech.org/forums/index...9&st=0&start=0

Mother, after reading your post, I think I'm going to clean & brush my old steering column and use it....what a pain in the neck. I don't have the keys from the donor car...so it looks extremely difficult to remove the donor ignition assembly. Thanks for all your previous posts on the ignition problems. Sorry you had to go through so much frustration...you sure saved me some by posting it. CP, the best wishes count for a lot, thanks.

Switch or switch and lock mechanism?

I hooked up the battery and powered the car up today. My wife was standing by with Chuck's halon fire extinguisher. I have not installed the installed the dash cover. I also have not hooked up any of the connections on the driver's side of the dash. I decided to clean up my old steering column rather than trying to swap the lock mechanism. A couple hours with a toothbrush and some Brasso did the trick. I did not expect to be able to start the car. I zip tied the steering column in place to connect to the ignition. I need to install the clutch pedal assembly prior to installing the column permanently. I have not reinstalled the carpet, center console, seats, or doors either. I hooked up the alarm receiver so I could turn the alarm off with the key fob. Hooking up the battery was a little anti-climatic. Nothing happened. I guess that is better than some of the alternatives. I pushed the button on the key fob and I could hear relays opening and closing inside the alarm control unit. I turned the key to the "on" position and Chuck's air horns started sounding (constant, not intermittent). I also noticed that the brake lights came on. I removed the horn fuse and the horn still activated. I removed the each relay individually and the horn continued to sound. I'm sure my neighbors love me right now. Tomorrow, I plan on installing the clutch pedal assembly and steering column. I believe the horn is sounding as part of the alarm function (along wihth the brake lights being illuminated. It only does it with the key in the third position. I may need to install the doors, center console, and guages to get the alarm function to deactivate. I definately have some trouble shooting to do. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Mark, Nice update. I recall that someone wrote that the steering wheel horns (#1 & #2) and the alarm horn are completely separate systems. I know there is a separate horn for the alarm (#7).

Mark, If the OBD II is a functional under the dash I can test each circuit individually with one of my testers.

I swear I dunno how you sleep at night - when I get a project going around the house I wake up every morning thinking about what I need to get for the project that day and how much I can get done - your project would have me up nights for sure. Sorry I cannot help though, but keep the pics coming.

I can finaly breathe and good for you "anticlimatic" is a good sign except for the horn. With allot out of it yet see after installing the rest except maybe seats, also there is a center console roller switch for the center glove box that you can tape closed in case it sets off alarm so you can leave out center console temporaily. You can check the brake by pushing the brake switch under pedal and see it the lights go out. Is your radio in?

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Boy wish I had one of those.

Tim, I thought the same about the horn systems being seperate. I believe the one by the driver's side firewall is for the alarm. I'm not sure what is going on. I will reasssemble as much of the interior as I can (and still access the questionable wires) in the next couple days and see what happens. Thanks for the diagram. Loren, I will take it as far as I can go over the next couple days. If I am still unable to resolve my wiring issues, I will take you up on your generous offer. Joe, I have lost more than a little sleep over this project. I enjoy a challenge...this project is certainly providing it. I have a hard time stopping when I haven't completed what I wanted to get done on the car. Mother, I'm hoping that I can install everything, but the seats, without causing myself any problems. Thanks for the information. The radio will be about the last thing that I install. I got one with the donor car, but it missing the face plate. I plan on having a stereo shop install an aftermarket system. I will hook up all the factory speakers, so I can have the deck installed first and the speakers later (as my budget permits).

Mark: I'd be more than happy to go pick up Loren (after I coordinate with him of course) and bring him up to your place to put it on his OBD II if you'd like. I still want to be there when it starts....lots of pics for the following you have developed. I also have the stock horns in the car for you when I next see you. I can imagine how much attention you would have garnered with those Italian air horns blowing in your garage....I think they're rated at 137 db. Loren: If you read this would you be willing to take a trip up to El Dorado Hills with me to check out Mark's project? Chuck

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The reason I asked is that I believe there is a wire (Brown) that is a anit theft that sets off the alarm also maybe some one can verify. Well off to shop to run my engine with tranny out to test new seals my shaft/case is concentric which was a releif. GL

Brown wires are always for signal to chassis ground in all systems.

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The radio alarm wire is Brown/Blue (brown wire with blue stripe) wire from the original radio connector.

IT LIVES!!! Thanks to Loren, who spent several hours helping me today with his diagnostic program, my car started today for the first time since I have owned it. I still have lots of work to do, but I sure am happy. Thank you so much Loren. Here are a couple pictures from today. I will post more as I get further along. The steering column is fighting me a little bit...it needs to go in about 1/2 inch further....my dad is bringing me a larger hammer tomorrow .

Congratulations! It's all downhill from here(hopefully!)

Mark, that's great news! Can't wait to see see the Indigo Inferno put back completely together again.

I was up there today with Mark and Loren....but left early. When I left, they were chasing down some wiring that was all color coded the same....black and yellow. For whatever reason, Porsche seems to like Black and Yellow wiring....and they all end up lookning the same. Mark ended up cutting a about 6 of the splices and Loren and Mark methodically chased down the wiring one by one...horn, alarm, ignition etc. I have to say that when I was watching, I never expected Mark to get it running today....but my hearty congratulations Mark....and a big Atta' Boy to Loren who brought his computer programs up and helped Mark chase down the trouble spots. The Porsche community has some great folks in it....

Congrats Mark...and massive kudos to Loren for being such a huge help. I can't wait to see pics of the car on the road!

Wow, great news boys... I gotta admit, Im not easily impressed...and Im an electrical engineer, but Im totally impressed!!! We should all chip in and buy one of these PIWIS, and have it floated around to who ever needs one!!! Again, You guys ROCK!!! Mark, wipe that grin off your face

Congrats Mark! One big step closer to getting in on the road. Thanks for the updates and keep 'em coming. Nice job Loren

Mark's done all the work here - please give credit where it is due. I'm glad I could help a little by tracing down some things and testing components\controls. I think that re-assembly (should go pretty quick now) and some final testing should get this car back on the road. Congrats to Mark for all his hard work!

All I have to say is WOW! Great work! I think you are on the back nine now!

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Come on was there really any doubt.

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Money is tied up for awhile, but great idea as long as Mark and Loren come with the package.

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Sorry, I don't need a PIWIS -- I have one and a PST2 (which is what I used on Mark's car).

Loren wrote: ....Mark's done all the work here - please give credit where it is due. I'm glad I could help a little by tracing down some things and testing components\controls." Loren.... You are so dogone modest.....you were a BIG HELP to Mark on this project....he was in dire need of your help and when you brought your computer and identified the various wires by color code along with your suggestions on cut this one and let's try this or that....it helped Mark wade through the problems...especially where there were five sets of black/yellow stripe wires that went to God knows where. Guys....Mark is a genius when it comes to this sort of thing, but Loren is too modest when he downplayed his part....as I'm sure Mark will attest to. The central theme of this post is that because of forums like Rennlist, RennTech, Pelican, 6Speed, and others...... guys rally to the aid of other P car owners who are having problems and lend their expertise. It's a great online community.

Thanks for all the kind words guys...I really appreciate it. Thanks again for all the help Loren. I hope I can return the favor someday. I have wasted several hours fighting with the steering column this weekend. It is about 1/4 to 1/8th of an inch from lining up with the bolt holes. I finally gave up for the weekend (on it) and finished installing the center console & upper console delete, the passenger side carpet, and passenger seat. It is starting to look like a real car. I will tackle the steering column again tomorrow. I received the instrument cluster cover from 928 leather...it looks great. I think it will look pretty good with the leather airbag cover. Hopefully it will break up the sea of plastic. How many rubber basketball covers did it take to cover an entire dash in a 99 996? My paintless dent guy came over yesterday and worked his magic on my front fenders. He found 6 dents on the passenger side and 5 on the driver's side. I am really **** and I only spotted 1 one the driver's side and 4 on the passenger side. He was able to remove all of them and now there are no dents, door dings, or ripples on the entire car. I was pretty happy when the damage came to $150.

Mark.....Lookin' good!! Not only "lives", but is starting to look like a Porsche on the inside...that must be frustrating to be so close and have that steering wheel hang up 1/8th out of centered. Tomorrow you can give Dave a call at Niello and maybe he'll have a trick or two....but you'd think that a spline is a spline and you just line up the grooves and it should slip right in. Murphy's Law lives.....

Mark, If you want to "spice up" the car when is is completed, I can send you my flame design to put on your car. Since the fire started in the dash, I think a design with the flames emanating from the from of the doors would be most authentic. Maybe Chuck would be willing to be the "subject matter expert" on this project. I envision it looking something like this:

Chuck, thanks. The spline was not the problem with the steering wheel. It is now moving in and out of the firewall with ease. It isn't seating all the way on the shaft that supports the pedals. I will mess with the old dash support tomorrow and see if I can get it to seat all the way while it is off the car. I will try to resist the urge to break out a grinder and fix the problem. Tim, while it is really tempting to spice the car up with your beautiful flame job, I think I'll pass for now. Thanks for your generous offer. I have seen some people put a Porsche emblem on the side of our cars, similar to what Ferrari puts on their cars. I'm going to get a pair of the chrome naked ladies (seen on pick-up truck mudflaps) and mount them on the front fenders. I think it will match my polished wheels and add a little class. Perhaps I could also get a chrome toilet paper dispenser (like you had on yours) and mount it on the back of my car. I would have to get a chrome turbo emblem and flip the b over to make it a d.

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I love the "Turdo" emblem as an accessory to "rear wiper" idea. That is hilarious!!!!

Atta' boy Mark....keep that sense of humor going. You're so close to getting it done....you've got a huge audience of well wishers cheering you on.....and they haven't seen the spoiler and other plans you have to enhance the outside....It's going to be stunning when it's all finished.

I was able to sit in the driver's seat and start the car today. The steering column fought me for about 4 hours and I finally prevailed. If I'm lucky, I will get the doors reinstalled tomorrow. I need to install the gas pedal (Does anybody have a diagram?), dash cover, and steering wheel. I also need to read the instructions for the new Momo Steering wheel so I can figure out how to install it. I should be able to take it for a test drive in the next couple days. The forecast is for a week of rain here, so I won't be test driving it with the doors off. I was starting to like the no door look.

Here is a diagram from the parts manual. Your pedal will look different since it is a non-egas car (the diagram just shows the most common part). I have removed the other egas parts from the diagram so this should be what you have.

Loren, thanks once again for your help. The problem with the gas pedal is the one on my car was melted and I was not present when it was removed from the donor car. It has a couple of levers inside to allow pushing on the pedal to pull the throttle cable. Your diagram will help with the outside, the inside might be a bit of a challenge.

I was away for a few days and just now caught up on this thread. Your work on this project is truly incredible. Congratulations on getting it started. That in itself is nothing short of miraculous. Stefan

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Let me know if you get stuck and I will drive my car over so you can compare.

This was fairly quick to get it up and running. I guess what's left is re-assembly and double-checking everything. Good job Mark!

Stefan and Arnee, thanks for the kind words guys. I really appreciate it. Arnee, the picture of your car in the avitar looks stunning. I love the black wheels with the red. Even in a small picture, your meticulous detailing is evident. Loren, thanks for the nice offer. I clicked on your blog. The boxter red interior looks great with the silver exterior. It reminds me of a Mercedes 300 SL gullwing that I saw. It is a great combo. I can't wait to get the aero kit installed. I'm sure I won't be driving the car for long before I install them.

Hopefully these will help Todd

GREAT pictures Todd.....really nice of you to go thru the trouble of photographing the mechanism for Mark. That's what makes this forum so dogone useful, helpful, and informative....it's the guys/gals helping each other. Then there's Tim.....but every forum has to have it's rebel. (heh-heh) Mark: How close are you to putting on the doors and taking it for a run? I want to shoot pics of the momentus occasion for the guys on the forum....

Todd, thanks for taking the time to post those pictures. That is absolutely perfect. It is just what I needed to put it back together. I just printed the pictures to put in the car while I reassemble the pedal. I appreciate the help. Chuck, I may get delayed for a few days...My son has the flu, his birthday is this weekend, and the in-laws are coming up for the weekend. I'll post pictures when I get the doors & dash cover on.

Mark, thanks for the update. I am truly impressed!

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WOW Chuck, I am really flattered. Apparently, I have moved up from "dick head" to "rebel." I am not worthy.

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I just got caught up here, and what amazing progress! To see those burn photos again is quite startling. Mark, you are a wizard. And Loren, I wonder if there's any way to count the number of people you've helped (including me) with various p-car problems? You're remarkably generous. Mark, I hope your son feels better soon and continued good luck; I can't wait for photos of the car on the road.

Is it just me, or is this like the best thread EVER on this forum? I check in every day just to see what's happened. If I lived anywhere near there I'd be pitching in wherever I could. Alas, I can only watch from 3000 miles away... Not be another "me too" post but honeslty, congratuations dude. This is some quality work you've got going here. -Charles

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+1. Love this thread! Great DIY inspiration.

You guys have no idea how much I appreciate all the kind words and encouragement. When I have gotten discouraged or overwhelmed with this project, I spend a few minutes here and my motivation is renewed. Porsche enthusiasts are a great group of people. I can't believe how generous you guys are...whether it's guys taking the time to offer encouragement or guys like Loren who are always willing to share their knowledge and experience. Tim, carpundit, Charles, and pongobaz, thank you. I promise more pictures soon. Charles, if you lived closer, I would be begging you for a ride in that beautiful GT3 of yours.

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Mark, That is one hell of an accomplishment! You are an inspiration! I mean, I took my laptop apart when some internals went bad, and I put it back together - and had 4 screws left over. I thought that was pretty good for me But you make my 'puter fixin look like I unbent a slinky. lol. Big kudos to you! Don't forget to post some pics of you tooling around with no doors -td

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In the immortal words of John Denver - "Um, those parts are extra".

Mark you are a hero

Mark - this thread is inspiring, keep up the great work and the updates!

Thanks again guys, I really appreciate all the encouragement. TD, here is the picture you requested. I had to dodge rain drops. The maiden voyage around the block went well. It was kind of fun driving without the doors. I have always loved Lotus Super 7s...this is as close as I will come to ownership. I like to drive, rather than push my cars. (I have owned several british cars...no offense intended to any Super 7 owners)

Unbelievable progress in short time, keep it up!

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Great shots! That must have been fun. Is that the neighbor kid chasing you with a hose?

Awesome photos! Good to see the car up and running again.

job well done.... putting the aero kit should be a breeze for ya!!

If I break something, can I send it to you? You can obviously fix ANYTHING. I am super impressed. I wish I could do it. Nice work.

I have been watching this tread and I can not tell you how much I love this.It reminds me of the classic underdog story, I am glad you gave that P-car a second chance Its a great looking car and I hope you enjoy the fruits of your labor.Simply one word to describe this.......Awsome....

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Great job and agree with you on British models. My dad and I built a 57 MK 1 or 11 cant remember Jaguar and he loved the car and said the car when driving gave him the feel of being connected to the road, but I used to say that's because we where always pushing it. PS If you run by a good low mileage engine 2000-01 give me a PM still looking.

Awesome job Fletch! Way to go! Best wishes for many miles of enjoyment. Andy T

I hope everybody is enjoying the game and the hangovers tomorrow aren't too bad. My wife & kids pitched in this afternoon and helped me install the doors. My wife is happy to have them out of the living room. We drove the car aound the neighborhood. It runs great. I still have to get a part before I install the dash cover. The door locks, windows, mirrors, and alarm all work fine. I took a bunch of pictures...it looks like a real car now instead of a crispy critter. Thanks again for all the encouragement guys. The help and kind words here have been fantastic. There were plenty of times when I thought I got myself in over my head. I still have several things left to do; however, being able to drive it now really helps with the motivation. Time to start pricing new windshields. Mother, I'll keep an eye out for your engine. CP, don't all your neighbors offer to wash your car when you drive by? Redridge, I think the aero kit installation will have to wait for a little while...until my bank account recovers from this project.

Looking good Mark

wow! is hard to believe that is the same car. Great job man can wait to see what it looks like with the aero kit.

Great job Mark! My offer is still open to run all the rest of the computer checks when you want.

Darn nice work! As for the windshield; http://www.gtmotorsport.net/index.ph...age=Windshield

good job Mark... and to your family as well.... and to the GIANTS!!!!

Inspiring work. Nice job.

uhhh.... i just read this whole post from page 1 thru 17..... uhhh Mark... can you adopt me please?.... you are my idol

Steve, thanks. I hope you are recovering fast and having fun shopping for your next Porsche. The C4S cab you posted was gorgeous. I can't wait to see what you end up with. Rolla, thanks. I am looking forward to installing the aero kit. If it looks half as good as Redridge's car, I will be thrilled. Loren, thank you. As soon as I get everything else done, I will take you up on your generous offer. Maybe this time, I can bring the car to you. Blinkwatt, thanks for the info. That is way less than I expected to pay. I wish that I could remember who did the install on my previous 996...they did a great job and were careful with my paint. Redridge, thanks. I hope you bet some money on your team. Zoolander, thank you.

Mark, the car looks great. GREAT JOB!

Mark: You must have put the doors on afterI left. I had my camera, but wanted to wait till you had the doors on then get a picture of you sitting in it....your moment of glory. It looks so nice....makes me nostalgic....

bmartini, I can't believe you read the whole saga...thank you. Congratulations on your new (to you) 996. It sounds like you got a great deal. I really enjoyed my tiptronic 996, especially in traffic. Tim and Chuck, thanks. Chuck, hopefully we can do a run up Salmon falls soon. Your TT looked great today. Check Tailwag's recent post regarding the vibration in your clutch pedal.

I bet someone is having seller's remorse. Stefan

Car looks great Mark! It's probably a litte quieter driving with doors on...

Remorse....moi? Yes...as I stood there watching Mark put her all back together I did have a twinge or two of remorse....she's so beautiful and I loved driving her....but Mark is a master surgeon...put her back so she is a mirror image of her former self. Geez I wish I could do what Mark is capable of doing with salvage cars.

Mark. Great pics with the doors on. Congratulations!

Mfletch - I suspect that this may be a sensitive subject, but I'm just tactless enough to ask the obvious question: where do you think you ended up on this project financially? Excepting the cost of labor (which I'll assume you consider free), do you think you would be "whole" if you sold the car now? Putting it another way, how much would you guess that you saved versus buying a non-burned 911 of identical age/mileage/condition?

Stefan, he still has visitation rights. Don, it's a lot quieter and warmer. It was fun though. Chuck, thanks. Your turbo looked great.You made a nice upgrade. Apterr, thanks. Welles, good question...I don't mind answering. I bought the car for about $12k and I'm only into it about 2k...not counting the mods I transferred from my previous project before I sold it (EVO CAI, Billy Boat headers & mufflers, RSS plenum-about $2,500-off ebay, and polished 18inch turbo twists) or the factory aero kit that I haven't installed (bought used for another $2,500). I should be into the car about $20k with the aero kit installed. I think the car was worth about $30-32k before the fire due to the low miles (34k), LSD, and unique color...Chuck's insurance thought it was worth significantly more. I think I could probably get about $28k for the car after I finish and the aero kit is installed. I won't know if it has a salvage title until I go to register it. I would disclose the prior damage regardless. I don't plan on selling this one. I probably saved about 10k rebuilding the car myself. The sale of my previous 996 paid for this car and a 03 BMW 330i that will be my beater car. My previous project 996 is the one that I wouldn't want to add up how much I spent rebuilding. I sold it a couple months ago for $23,500. I probably had another $10k into it. My project cars have never really been about the money. They are a passion. They have helped me keep my sanity through five spine surgeries.

There's a dimension to all this that a lot of folks dont' know, and Mark would be retiscent to say...but his back is a compilation of stainless that would put a lot of headers to shame. Mark lives in pain, but he has learned to ignore it and live with it. We both have bad backs, but his outdoes mine, and when I stand there and watch him maneuver in and out of the car...into contotioned positons, I know that he's hurting, and not just a little....but he persists. As he said, this is his passion, and passion helps to overcome dwelling too much on your personal condition and discomfort....the same goes for Eric and Deonna (Bernoco). His combination of sheer guts and God given talent make him one of a kind. The results are worthy of a professional restore-it shop run by a guy who could just as easily whine and mew about how it hurts to do even menial tasks. His efforts and results are inspiring to many who have followed this thread. Sorry Mark....I know you are a modest guy, but what you've done considering all the other factors, is worthy of note.

Chuck, nicely written!

Mfletch- It's nice to see your' new' project car in your avatar...it looks so good! Can you take a break now or will that wait until you install the aero package?Barn

I saw the updated pics. Lookin good! Mark, if you ever need help changing a fuse or two, I can help you with that.

Mark, You are a man of remarkable talent and, we now learn, fortitude. The car looks great. I wish you many happy, pain-free, miles. CP

Chuck, thanks for the kind words. Thanks even more for selling me your baby. Steve, Thanks. I still have some work to do. I will probably take a break & drive it as-is for a little while. Once I have everything else the way I want it, I will install the aero kit. Having to wait for a while will make me appreciate it more. Have you installed the new steering wheel yet? If you are short any hardware, let me know. Arnee, thanks. I know who to ask for advice when it comes to detailing, yours looks awesome. CP, thanks. I wish I could share some of our nice weather with you. I have never been as cold in my life as I was on my trips to Boston....tolerating that weather is my idea of fortitude.

A little bit closer...

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heh thanks. I can help you... I'll hold the tools and stuff.. and.. err.. hold the can of soda and stuff.

I went for my first real drive today up my favorite road (Salmon Falls). I was in Porsche heaven. I have been (essentially) Porscheless for two months, since I sold the vesuvio 996. I love this car. The PSS9 suspension is fantastic. The mods work well together. This is the first time I have gotten to flog it. It flies. It is significantly faster than my tiptronic car. I still have some work to do. Now that I can drive it, nothing seems that major. I'm waiting to get my guage cluster cover back from 928 leather. I just started shopping for a stereo head unit. I decided not to waste the money on the factory head unit that I have. The face plate that I need for the CDR 220 would have cost me close to $100 used. I'm going to put the money toward a decent aftermarket CD player.

Looks fantastic, impressive on so many levels. Glad your first real drive went without incident. Hope this is not a repeat question, but did you have to do some creative wiring to defeat the steering wheel airbag light? Stefan

Wow, I can't wait to see this car finished... what a fantastic job!!

Nice job! - Almost looks like a real Porsche now.

Thanks guys. It feels almost like a real car now. I was very pleased with how fast it is. It sounds heavenly with the Billy Boat headers & mufflers, EVO CAI, RSS plenum, and GIAC flash all working together. I still have to deal with the airbag light. I decided to reinstall the passenger airbag. I would feel terrible if I got into an accident and my wife got hurt because I deleted it. I believe I can either install an appropriate resistor or pull out the light bulb. I'll probably go with the former.

I didn't know that was negotiable. I just assumed you HAD to replace airbags. Maybe different laws in different states. You have done such a marvelous job to this point, it would be a shame to not get to the 100% mark. Absolutely awesome!

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+1 on the B&B/Evo combo - I have them also. I'd be interested in hearing how yours sound if you have a clip - here are mine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okru3YLgRHI

apterr, thanks. I don't know of any laws in CA concerning the replacement of airbags. We don't have safety inspections, only smog...go figure. Wellardmac, I hate to admit this, but I have no idea how to make a sound clip. I would be happy to make one, if you could tell me how. I really love the sound.

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Mark, you rebuilt a burnt Carrera. You have essentially infinite credit in the "knowing stuff" bank, so don't worry about admitting the sound clip thing; it's a tiny withdrawal.

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Interesting on the air bag - I was wondering about that. As for the sound clip, I just made a video with my camcorder and uploaded it to Youtube.... simple to do, but you need a camcorder and software to get it into an uploadable format.

BTW, nice momo steering wheel! I have the same exact wheel in my 944!

carpundit, thank you...you give me more credit than I deserve. I'm lucky that rebuilding crispy critter Porsches doesn't require knowing stuff. I would be in serious trouble. It's like putting together a big jigsaw puzzle. Wellardmac, I guess I would have to own a camcorder first...sorry. The headers made it sound even better than the mufflers & CAI alone. Going under bridges and through tunnels is great fun. Arnee, I love the steering wheel. I was worried about getting the Alcantara. No regrets. It feels great. Probably my favorite mod. 10-15 more hp easy

Mark, What you do is just simply amazing!! Congrats on another beautiful car resurrected from your incredible hands.

chsu74, thank you. I appreciate the kind words. Yours looks great with the aero kit. I can't wait to install mine.

I just received my instrument cluster back from 928 leather. Robb does great work. I had him do the installation...best $60 I ever spent. I installed it and I'm very pleased with the results. Having the instrument cluster and airbag cover done in leather makes the cheap plastic dash look a whole lot better. Now I can finish installing the steering wheel area. I purchased an Alpine head unit & amplifier that I'm having installed next week.

I stand in complete awe of your work. Great job!

Remarkable difference Mark! Looks great!

Mark I have been watching your progress and I am amazed with the out come. I wish I had your skills. Great Job. Cant wait to see what you do next.

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The interior is really coming together - how does it smell? Operative words "having installed". I guess with the car's history, you are not taking chances - can't say I blame you. Although I love the steering wheel, I would nonetheless limit its use to track days. 3 spoke airbag steering wheels are not that hard or expensive to come by, and will protect you from those who are less careful. Not meant to be a criticism by any means. Stefan

Thanks once again for the kind words guys. I really appreciate it. I look forward to your responses. It helps keep me motivated. I have taken almost 400 pictures so far....primarily so I can share the fun with my online friends. Stefan, I was a little worried about the residual smell when I first started the project. Since I stripped the interior down to bare metal, repainted all burnt areas, and replaced all the front carpet & dash...none of the foul odor remains. I won't even need the half gallon of Fabreeze that I invested in. I still need to remove the driver's door panel and clean inside that door. I blasted it with my compressor and dry chemical powder still falls out every time I close the driver's door. The local Best Buy has a really good installer that did an installation on a SL600 project car (flood title) that I did about year ago. When he told me that I would have to run RCA cables from the head unit to the amp...I decided to spend the $200 and save my back. He promised not to put any more divots in my fenders. I'm fabricating the mount for the amp (from my old aluminum dash support), so I can put it in the factory location. I sold my 3 spoke steering wheel to a fellow Rennlister. You never have to worry about offending me Stefan. I retained the airbags for my passenger. I'm not a big fan of them for myself. If I could delete them in my K-9 patrol car, I would.

Mark, What are your PSS9 settings and why? Is yout setup going to be primarily for street? TIA

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How is it running? Any twitching headlights or electrical gremlins... Good work!

chsu74, I haven't messed with the suspension yet. I believe Chuck Jones told me that when he had the car corner balanced & lowered the PSS9s were on the 3rd from the stiffest setting. I am hoping to enjoy the car on the track, but it will primarily be driven on the street. Gregorycarl, thanks. No electrical problems yet, but I still have a few minor issues to resolve (brake pad sensor light & airbag light).

Mark: As I recall, the PSS9's were set at 3/4 with a ride height of 25 5/8....I did a survey of what most of the guys set as a ride height, and that's the figure I came up with. Although I liked the settings for the twisties....because of your back, you should probably back off the stiffness a bit. I believe they have 9 different settings you can use. I had them set up at Radial Tire on Cottage....if you contact Randy there, he should have the info on the car in their computer. She's lookin' good mate...let me know whey you're ready for a Salmon Falls run. Chuck

Thanks for the info Chuck. I should be ready for Salmon Falls again soon. It's parked for a few days, until the UPS man delivers a new oil fill tube.

Here is one more step in the right direction. The steering column cover was a pain. The stereo goes in on Wednesday. I also need to call around and price the windshield & installation.

hey you can get a Porsche horn from FVD or eBay to fit that momo wheel. I have the black porsche horn for my momo wheel. completes the steering wheel look.

Thanks Arnee. I have the Porsche crest horn button. I messed up the first thread on the steering wheel shaft. I need to fix it this week (so I can put the nut on that holds the steering wheel in place). I also need to get some hardware for the aluminum pedals. I didn't really like what came with them.

I haven't posted any updates on my project car for a while. I just picked it up from Car Audio Inovations today. I love it! Rob personally did the installation of the Alpine head unit and an Audison amplifier. I'm taking my Alpine amp back. Rob suggested I go with the Audison amp for the shielding from interference (?) and because he could install it in the factory location. The system sounds fantastic. Thanks Rob for a great job. I would highly recommend him. I can't believe how good it sounds, even with the factory speakers. I still have a few minor details to finish on my car (turn signal has to be shut off manually, install the rest of the aluminum pedals, traction control turns off...but the light won't illuminate, connect Momo horn button, etc.). I am able to drive it daily now. I couldn't be happier with it. I really appreciate all the help and kind words that I received here. There are some incredible people here that have helped make this an enjoyable project. I will install my new wheels by Friday and my aero kit in the next couple months...I'll post a couple updated pictures after the mods. Here are some pictures of the amp and stereo installation. I'm sorry my photography skills are lacking. I see from my pictures that I really need to detail the interior now that I am done...I saw some dust bunnies hiding in my vents.

Mark: I like that center CD holder delete....makes the front look so much roomier. Hard to believe I used to own that car...you've done such a wonderful job bringing her back to her former beauty....and yes, I'm up for a run to Salmon Falls. I'm putting in my headers tomorrow. Chuck

Nice job, Mfletch!

Mark, The car looks amazing and will continue to improve. Golf claps...

Mark...what an amazing project, you pulled it off very nicely...

Looks great! Truly amazing job

great job...mark. can't wait to see her with her new shoes. post pics soon. did you finally get the wheels painted in black..?

Looks great Mark, just last night I was just thinking that I have not seen an update on your project in a while. Can't wait to see it with the new wheels and aero!

Thanks once again for all th kind words. You guys are great. I pick up my wheels tomorrow and hopefully, I'll have them on the car either tomorrow or Friday. I had the two that are anodized powdercoated black to match the two that were already done.

Mark: I'm not a big fan of black wheels....but those look absolutely attention grabbing. I've got to see that car when you get them mounted. Looking goog buddy.....you're finally coming to the end of a long road....and you've done an admirable job.

Where are you getting the tires mounted and balanced? I've been to Linville Brothers in the past,nice folks very professional.

Chuck, thanks. I was not sure at first, but they are starting to grow on me. I'm looking forward to the performance benefit of the wider wheels and lighter weight. Lets try to hook up next week and do the Salmon Falls run. Blinkwatt, thanks for the recommendation. There is a Big O tire store about 3 miles from my house that Damon at the Tire Rack recomended. I have dealt with the owner every time and they are fantastic. They damaged one of my cars while parking it. The owner had me take it to the high end body shop next door and had it fixed without any argument. They gained a customer for life.

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+1 very nice!

Mark,I'm curious to see those black wheels(which look great by the way) on your blue 911.How much weight per corner will the new wheels save out of curiosity? Have you corrected your electrical gremlins?Your ride looks really good.

Damn dude that's come a long way. Do you mind telling us how much the repairs have cost?

If you go back in the posts, he goes through how much he's spent on it not counting the new wheels or the radio.

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Hahahaha,either said than done Mr.Jones. This thread is 21 pages long.

Mark, thanks. Steve, I was hoping to weigh the new wheels, so that I could compare them to the old. I probably won't get to before they are installed. I believe it will be significant, since my old wheels are solid with the polished finish. If I have the chance to weigh either, I will post the results. I really don't have any significant electrical problems. Thanks. Riad, thanks. The repairs & parts only, set me back about $2,000 ($14,000 total). The mods, stereo, aero kit, & wheels will probably bring me up to about $20,000 (after I sell my old wheels). I sold the vesuvio tiptronic 996 for $23,500 and it had almost double the miles. I'm pretty happy with it.

Are you keeping or selling this one?

I think after all the work, blood, sweat, and countless hours that Mark has put into this car, he wont' be selling it anytime soon.

Mark, Your car will be one of the nicest and well sorted around. Congrats!!

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That's fantastic. You did a great job.

Thanks guys...I'm keeping this one. Here are the new wheels.

Looks good Mark!

Thanks Tim. I hope the new job is going well and you like Dallas.

Fantastic job, Mark! Remember though, for guys like us restoration is a sickness. There's always another to be saved....

Wheels look great !!!!! Why do I keep on wishing that your calipers were red instead of black? John

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WOW. I just read this whole thread. Couldn't put it down. Really amazing job. May I ask what you did for the pedal hardware? I have the same set but I think the hardware is weak at best. Can't wait to see the aerokit! And I say yellow calipers w/ red "Porsche" text. Tim

Mark...the car looks awesome. I too can't wait for the aerokit. And as for the painted caliper suggestion...I definitely second it...although I'm torn between yellow and red for what would look best. Either one would really set off the wheels nicely. It's not that bad of a project, and with a little patience (something you apparently have an abundance of), you can get near factory results. I always get compliments on my red calipers, which I did myself about 1 year ago with the autozone hi-temp paint and clear coat.

mark, It looks great...they make black "Lug covers" that look like black lug nuts but they are actually just plastic covers that snap on. I just bought some black wheels and they sent me a set with the wheels...if you want I will try to find the package and get you the contact info.

Joe, you certainly understand the disease. I checked out some pictures of your M3 project car a while ago. You did fantastic work on it. I will probably do another project in the future...for the sake of domestic tranquility, I should wait for a while. John & Scott, thanks. I do like the red calipers. I will probably wait till I have the aero kit done and need to do a brake job. They look great on your car Scott. Tim, thank you. I used some left over OEM black torx screws to install my dead pedal. I will also used them on the gas. They match perfectly and they just look like more rubber cleats. You can get them from Sunset Porsche for a few pennies. Sorry, I don't know the size. Mark, thanks. I had some of those on my previous car. They were nice for the price. Thanks for your kind offer. I have chrome lugs on right now ($189...ouch). The Kinesis wheels will not accept the covers since the heads of the lug bolts protrude. I will probably end up using some that are powdercoated black. I love the titanium ones, but they cost as much as a nice set of wheels.

Fantastic job!

Thanks Uber, it has been fun.

Awesome job! The wheels looks sweet! Hopefully I'll see you around at some meet or get together and see all your hardwork in person.

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such humility for a very difficult job very, very well done!

Blinkwatt, thank you. I will look forward to meeting you in person. Dresler, you are gentleman. Thanks