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YOUR RESEARCHWhy don't they use the H6 motors in the Pepper and Panamera?
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With these kinds of weights, the V-motors are probably the best bet in terms of horsepower and torque.
Why don't they use the H6 motors in the Pepper and Panamera?
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No offense intended to anyone, but I'm wondering why some people use "Pepper" when referring to the Cayenne and "Croc" for the Cayman.
Why don't they use the H6 motors in the Pepper and Panamera?
Use porsche v6
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I stand corrected, I knew the Panamera was using the new Porsche V6.
Why don't they use the H6 motors in the Pepper and Panamera?
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No offense intended to anyone, but I'm wondering why some people use "Pepper" when referring to the Cayenne and "Croc" for the Cayman.
I recognize the connections inherent in the meaning of the model names to peppers and crocodiles, but it seems a bit silly.
There, I've gotten my early morning grouchiness out of my system!
I agree. The Cayenne weighs about 5,000 pounds (the 2011 has been reduced by about 400 pounds, thankfully). With these kinds of weights, the V-motors are probably the best bet in terms of horsepower and torque.
VGM911.....comes straight from PAG themselves when they decided to name the cars that way. Read their materials and you'll see their reference to the pepper and the croc as where their names came from.
Now go have that cup of coffee!
Are you sure about that? The Pano motor is new and developed by Porsche. It is in essence their V8 minus 2 cylinders.
They had to create this engine because they wanted a V6 for the Pano but the Cayenne V6 is too tall and wouldn't fit under the hood.
The base engine in the Pepper is different and still a VW motor.
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Not the Cayenne V6
Let's try to unravel what is at first glance a confusing situation. Porsche now offers two V6 engines, both of which have a displacement of 3.6 liters and produce 300 horsepower and 295 pound-feet of torque. The first came our way in the Porsche Cayenne and continues in the newly introduced second-generation model. This new V6 in the Panamera is actually a derivative of the Porsche V8 introduced by the 2010 Porsche Panamera.
At first glance, this overlap in V6s seems like some product planner's ***** up, but Porsche says there is a solid rationale at work. The Cayenne's V6 engine came from VW, part of the Porsche and VW agreement to share the development costs of the sport-utility that became the Porsche Cayenne and Volkswagen Touareg. It's a narrow-angle engine with undersquare cylinders, so it proved too tall and skinny to fit under the low, sleek hood of the 2011 Porsche Panamera.
Porsche therefore took the bold decision to develop a new V6 based on its own V8. As a result, the new V6 shares the 90-degree angle between its cylinder banks of the V8. This isn't so good for vibration control when it comes to a V6, but the new engine can be built on the same production line in Leipzig, Germany, as the V8. Porsche says the V6 shares 40 percent of the V8's parts, and it offers direct injection, variable valve timing for the intake camshaft, plus Porsche's variable valve lift system.
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Front wheel wells must accommodate wheel/tire turning space. Not enough space left for an H6 as we know it today.
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A flat 6 engine is wide and would make a sophisticated front suspension more complicated than it already is. Or the engine would have to be mounted behind the front wheels which eats into cabin space unless the wheelbase stretched. But this increases the cost of the car and impacts fuel economy and CO2 emissions.
Plus the flat 6 is pretty much at its limit regarding displacement. Extracting more HP from the flat 6 in its 3.6l to 3.8l form would be expensive and render the engine unsuitable for use in cars such as the Panamera.
V8s are narrow, though the DOHC variety tend to be wide at the top but there's more room higher up for the wider engine.
The V8 probably has more room to grow into a larger displacement engine without having to resort to paper thin cylinder walls.
V8 engines easier to assemble too and are generally stiffer, more rigid.
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Macster.
Let's not forget that one of the greatest benefits of a flat 6 (or 4 if you talking subies) is that you an place the engine low in the chassis for better handling and often for better weight distribution.
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I'm highly convinced that this IS the very clear answer to the question.
I have another one : Why the Porsche V8 has not been designed with a flat crank ?
I suppose that we all agree that the "character" of a F-car is great.
I would love to drive a car with a "last generation" V8, i.e.: one from Mr. A. Ruf, and get the feeling, ..that I'm pretty sure it should be top level !
I hope it is not for the same reason ..that P tried to offer the original PDK gears shifters !
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