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Had both boys in the back so didn't push very hard with the repaired strut.
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Had to go to 285's in the back since they don't come in my stock size...still run better than my Khumo's (HATED).
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Not the time to be running summer tires tracking hard.
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sumi are cheap and do the work, but compared to my Michelin PS2, they are really not as good. if you enjoy driving and don't put tons of miles on your car commuting, I think the PS2 are worth the investment.
since no one asked - what the hell are ya going to use the tires for anyhow HUH ???
oh, was that over the top, sorry....
use is one of the biggest factors in deciding a tire...and price
- but seriously the N rated tires are made for Porsche and for good reason. They have stiffer rear side walls to support the added weight of the Porsche platforms. I will be looking N spec tires next time around.... the more I learn the more I find out I am wrong about......If its all the same, get an N spec, that's why they are made
Use will be strictly street. I don't do any Autocross events or anything. Just good for around town and the occasional road trip. I hate tire noise and hate tires on sports cars that look like mud tires from a side profile. I have seen a few where the tread is too aggressive on the outside and it makes the tires looks like it belongs on a rally car. Of course now that I think of it may be they were winter tires on the cars I have seen.
I just bought a set of Sumi HTRZIII. For an all around tire, they are hard to beat for the price. And yes I understand the load rating on the tires. But if you actually look at the load ratings, you will see that the load rating on the sumis is more than enough to support the 911.
Larry
based on how you plan to use your tires and the things that irritate you about sports car tires, the hankooks are for you. Super quiet, inexpensive and if you move quick you can take advantage of the $60 rebate.
from a "looks" stand point the DW's are a little wierd (tread) the Sumi's "look" more like a sports car tire IMO - they are great, quiet and handle well on wet/dry - we have heard a couple people say they wake up in the morning a little slow (ala out of round) for a mile or 2 and one person who pushes their car to the point of busting shocks said they were too soft....I think they are great and might be right in line with your thinking/use
I have Contis on my M3 and the Sumis on my 996 and I would have to say I like both tires. Both seem to handle well, both the Contis seem a little softer, but that could be the M3.
Hey now I didn't bust that shock - the dealer did which is fixed. But that's besides the point. The sumis sidewalls were too soft for me and they are going back to Tire Rack. AD08s are on as of yesterday, but I just picked up the car today: no more rear end sidewall flex like the sumis had. My Dunlop 17" snow tires are better than the sumis.
I'm no race car driver, but based on my 450 mile experience with the sumis, I would not recommend them. I'm thinking something must have been wrong with mine seeing how so many people like them. If you read Tire Racks customers reviews, 8 out of 10 like the sumis, but 1-2 out of 10 don't. Look at PS2s or other ones like the AD08s and you will be hard pressed to find a negative review except for the price.
Well yeah. The poll question was "Which tire would buy?" followed by a post indicating "Which would you buy?" So I answered what I would (and did) buy.
I recently went through a month+ agony of deciding, mostly chronicled on
this thread in the autocross forum
and I bought a set of AD08s and am pretty happy with them. Whether they are the best tire for the OP is a whole different question, especially given the other choices on his list. It makes the poll results interesting but not so useful as a purchasing guide.
I was also swayed by having a C4S, and five quite nice tires got cut from my list merely because they have max widths of 265, 275, or 285. Perhaps the OP doesn't have this issue and would consider the R-1R, RE-11, Star Spec, R-S3, or Pilot SS.
Yomi, great color on your 4S. Atlas grey? This is first picture of Atlas ive seen in sunlight. Sidewalls look good as well. I cant stand rounded sidewalls on a sports car. Im buying a set of AD08 in few weeks. How are they in the rain?
Midnight blue metallic actually. Probably a layer of Atlas grey dirt
My front wheels are filthy from brake dust now, rears still look shiny. I let someone in BSP co-drive that day because his regular drive had corded the tires, hence the BSP shot.
I haven't done a rain autocross yet. They seem just fine on the street in the rain, but I haven't tested driving through big ruts full of water or anything. Comments on the net have been quite positive -- it's not the
best
but it's quite good (that seems a common theme -- it's 2nd best at almost everything, with different tires ahead of it in each area). Here's a comment from Andy Hollis in early 2010, from someone asking about autocross, track days, and occasional DD:
He's also clear on the Kumho XS being quite bad in the wet. Good for long hot dry use though. Since I drive my car to work every day as well as weekend outings with various car clubs often with my 3 young kids in the car, I wanted a tire that would work well in most situations while still being very good at the autocross.
Look at the Conti. DWS as well. Great for Street only driving. Everyone that has them likes them. I have the DW Extreme's. Had to go to 285's in the back since they don't come in my stock size...still run better than my Khumo's (HATED).
Yes no worries. Apparently we spend too much time on here when we know jokes from different threads. BTW AD08s seem very sticky and stiff after another ride tonight. Had both boys in the back so didn't push very hard with the repaired strut. Can't wait till they are broken in. I can tell already they will rock.
I think running tires for the street concerns is the most rational. A guy can dream he is going to push a tire to its limits on the street but eh. I think its best to have the dry and wet performance. Think of night time and surprises like the state or city turns on the water sprinklers around the on and off ramps like around here. Not the time to be running summer tires tracking hard. I voted for the DW's of course.
Oh yah, the Conti extreme contact DW beat a lot of the listed tires on the track tests done a year or so ago. Good handling tire developed in europe's division and just transfered to the states for sale.
Ordered the Contis today. The more I think about it it seems like the best fit for me. There were not too many people in my area that were fans of the Sumis.
I have always liked Continental tires and will give them another shot.
Thanks to all who voted and gave advice.
Hopefully I like them as much as I think I will.
Does anyone have any experience with the Conti's if used for the street and some DE/Track events? How about in the rain? Need to get some new tires soon and this thread is very helpful..thanks!
I live in Seattle area so that answers your question about Rain Experience ... I love these tires - perfect for my mostly Street use Have 2400 miles on them and they show little wear. Traction is good in all weather. Now I have a C4 so some of it is the AWD... but I do not feel any difference driving Wet ot Dry. Steering responce is sharp and they track straight as an arrow on the freeway - even on less than smooth surfaces. I hope to do some AutoXing soon so I will let you know.
I have had the tires for a few months. Was looking at the DWS but after talking with Tirerack - I went with the DW Extreme. It has been a great set of tires.
Done one autox...(another tomorrow) and they did fantastic. Yes - they are street tires...but give adequate traction and plenty of feedback.
Just did a DE in June - held up great...good feedback and held the line at any speed I attempted.
Ran the Tail of the Dragon and Skyway - and kept up with the GT3's (most of the time). If you don't know what this is...google it and you will appreciate it.
This is not a race tire - but the rubber is good. The tread is good in all weather and it can hold its own with AutoX and DE's.
I am very happy with them and will buy them again.
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