EVO MS Supercharger group buy?

Anyone interested? I am toying with the idea... but if I can find some other fellow rennlist-ers... maybe it will get MORE interested... Any takers? Email me directly, let's see how many we can gather...

I'm in.

Count me in...

When you try to nickle and dime a provider of products or services don't expect the support you would get if you gave the guy some profit.

I'm sure SMDBO1US is not out to "nickle & dime" anyone. Economies of scale benefit all parties...

Are you talking about "just" the unit (parts etc) or are you talking about price includes install etc? I would imagine that each install has different characteristics and thus price?

Hi 1999Porsche911, In this case specific case, I am interested on getting a "volume price" rather than the "list price" for the supercharger kit. Installs will have to be done locally to whoever buys the kit. I could go out and buy my own kit and EVO would make profit on one kit or I could get 10 fellow rennlist-ers and EVO would probably make a little more money. Besides, EVO still has the last word if they want to do this volume buy or not... I am not and I could not press them to do it, right? So I doubt that I am "nickle & dime". I would rather say I am helping the economy and EVO's business... As per the install, I would not try to bargain it. I rather pay big $$ for a correct install than having issues later... Anyway, 1999Porsche911, you still have your EVO SC, right? Still loving it?

Anyway, 1999Porsche911, you still have your EVO SC, right? Still loving it? Still loving it! What a TT killer too!

I'm in!

I am seriously considering at the moment and preparing myself mentally for it I know 6speed did a group buy last time and the price was quite reasonable. What does the install cost? Any ideas?

I'm.... on the fence! But it might not take much to tip me in -- a nice discount might do it. =Carlos=

Hello all, AWESOME. I did not expect that many responses! So, I called and called EVO MS today to get details on this and I could not get through... maybe they are selling too many SC kits? I sent them an email anyway and if I do not hear from them by tomorrow noon (CST), I will try calling them again. I will post an update as soon as I hear from them. I am also trying to get my mechanic to tell me how much approx for the install. From what I have seen on the previous threads before, it ranges from 1,000 to 1,500. This obviously will be different based on your local mechanic's rates.

I forgot to mention this. *I* would also be interested on getting: EVO Bullet Flywheel and Sachs sport Clutch Kit Upgrade LEVEL 2 http://www.evoms.com/p%20996%20clutch.htm So, I am asking that too to EVO MS. Let me know if you are interested too to see if we can get it bundled.

My 04 C2 is still under warrantee....but I might be tempted if the $$$ is right...(I am out of control).....lol

I hear you Dave, Mine is also still under warranty... but the HP/TQ difference is TOO BIG and I have been lured to it...

u guys are killing me. i still haven't maximize my cars potential yet.. what would i do with 500+ hp. have you guys ever been up against a subaru wrx? I didn't push it bc it was dark but that car is pretty fast. we took turns flooring it while passing each other then letting off. a friendly back and forth race.

I would wet my pants every time I got into the car

I used to have a 05 WRX STi. VERY fast straight-line car. Except for TT/GT3/GT2, it will give most 911s a run for "our" money... I never raced TT/GT3/GT2 but I did leave a few 911s behind off the traffic light. That is one of the reasons why I want more power... I would love to see my "previous me"'s faces in the mirror wondering what went wrong...

was that the 4dr wagon? That was one fast wagon.. hahahahah He was cool.. he gave me the thumbs up

...very interested but it depends on the pricing quote from EVOMS. Post holiday funds planning didn't take a possible SC group buy into account. Should I begin the panhandling effort now?

I might be interested as well, as said previously in some replies it depends on the prices though. When You've reached the guys at EVO please do give an update if they are willing to do this and if so, what is the price and how much does the price vary if there are say up to 5, 6-10, 11-15 and so on buyers for the kit.

I have been calling EVO MS several times today with no luck. I always get the answering machine. I wonder if they are off for the holidays?

I have emailed EVOMS for other items and have had no response as yet. I would hazard a guess they will be returning in the new year

...... OK..... I'm on the fence as well,,,,,,,

I am wondering what the maint costs will be for running this engine supercharged. Could get expensive in the long run.... It would be nice to pull up to my friends E55 and leave him in the dust............

I might be interested in a setup w/clutch and flywheel as well...

On the fence. Curious to see what the price will be. Chad

Also see if you can get an "installed" price at the same time...... -Eli

I got my SC when the 6speedonline group buy was on and it saved from 10,500 to 9300 on the hardware and down to 1500 on install from 3000. I may be off on those figures a bit but a group of guys did the group buy and they may correct me if I am wrong. I had a local shop do my install and Todd even kicked in a little help on some re-enginering that needed to be done on my C4S that was a little different than the C2's. I am planning to take my car down there in Mar to get some fine tuning and the clutch and flywheel package. Will

Wow, $3000.00 for normal install, does it take them almost 2 days to install the kit. The centrifugal supercharger is supposed to be the quickest install from the 3 blowers. I would hate to see the price on a TPC, which uses the roots blower

My car was at the shop 6 weeks, but that is a long long story. It was the first C4S install in the US, and the first for Autosport Werks in Broomfield, Co. If you can take it to Evo, do it there. But it is the ultimate mod. The car just screams. I still can't get over the better gas milage. Will

Better mileage????? For real???? Schweeeeeeeet...

Wow, $3000.00 for normal install, does it take them almost 2 days to install the kit. The centrifugal supercharger is supposed to be the quickest install from the 3 blowers. I would hate to see the price on a TPC, which uses the roots blower There is more than simply bolting the supercharger in the car. A third raditator is installed with all hoses and pump. This requires that the front bumper be removed. You also have to replace the fuel injectors. You need to connect an oil feed line to the SC and drain it back into the engine. Various tubing and hoses for the SC along wih the new filter has to be installed. You also need to install a light for the water pump circuit inside the car. So you can see that it is more than just a few hours work...especially for a shop that has never installed one.

Better mileage????? For real???? Schweeeeeeeet You only get a mileage increase at cruising speed. You WILL NOT get better mileage driving around town in a spirited manner. When the boost is on, you are sucking in alot more air and therefore you will inject more fuel. I average about 27 mpg on the highway and about 20 or less around town.

I'm interested....

Ah...I was not aware of the additional 3rd raditator and the light for the water pump needed. As for the oil tapping and new filter that is normal for most Centrifugal superchargers so I still can see how they would charge so much. Then again you did say they are fairly new to these installs.

What's the " light for the water pump circuit inside the car." for?

Any idea what the price will be?

Hey guys, No news yet on pricing. But since I am off tomorrow ( ) I will be all over this. I will post an update as soon as I get in contact with EVO MS. Since I do not know what the conditions of the group buy will be (if EVO MS agrees, of course) I might need to individually email all the interested parties. Happy new year and may all our Porsche dreams come true in '05...

If it is a good deal, im in too.........who needs warranty

I think AJ Usa here in San Diego can install them. I will call them tomorrow to see about install cost.......

Hey Robert, let me know how much $$ so I can have a baseline here... I am trying to get my dealer to install it. I am sure it will be a more $$ but at least the know the engine better... I think... :\

Does anyone know the status of getting the supercharger smogged in CA? I have heard that it currently will not pass smog but I have also heard somewhere that there were trying to get it approved. Is there any hope? How are other people dealing with this? My car will not need to be smogged for about 3 more years since I purchased it new but it would nice to not have this issue.

Still not CARB approved to my knowledge.

Hello all, I finally reached EVO MS today. The sales person I talked to said that if we can get about 10 people he will make us a deal. Obviously, there is no limit as how many we can get, the more, the better. So, going through recent posts, here is where we are: In: C4C_Leon [email removed] C4S Surgeon Ivan (that's me) On the fence, depending on the price: ArthurK CarlosR Big6Dad Chris79SC splitwindow eli at P Chads996 Robert Santangelo kilrgt So, if the price was right and we were all "in", we would be 13. I am going to talk to him tomorrow and tell him that I have 13 people "in" if the deal is bueno... what do y'all think? Comments ideas? PS. I already ordered the clutch/flywheel. I want to try it first to see what difference it makes...

Yea i will call my dealer tomorow and get a price to install, they are an authorized reseller and installation evo dealer .funny they are the ones that take my warranty away too!

I am also on the fence. I probably will need to call them and ask a few questions before I commit.

I'll call tues...AJ USA..Was swamped at work today! How much is clutch and flywheel?

Ivan, That sounds like a plan. I'd say do it, but tell him right now we may have as many as 13, and possibly the number could grow. However, after he gives you the price, let's make sure the figure doesn't go up if only 10 of us sign up. And if the number gets up to 15, there should be another (smaller) price break. Anyhow, that's my thinking. But you're in charge. ;-) =Carlos=

Hey Carlos, Good idea... I will bring that up tomorrow. I am just the "voice" we are all in charge, that is why I am asking. Hey Robert, the clutch and flywheel was 2,650.00 list price. I really did not want to wait for the whole discount because I really like doing one mod @ the time and being able to tell the difference...

Sounds good so far... I am also thinking about the clutch/flywheel can you see if you can get a deal on that too? (Maybe even make it retroactive for you?)

Post the end purchase amount when available, please.

This sounds great but you may want to reiterate with the sales person you�re dealing with that you have most of us on the fence pending the outcome of his pricing. I mean this is the equivalent of buying 10 new Korean made automobiles�� not a couple of key heads. �Still on the fence - - - can fall either way!� -Eli

Any more news? I also spoke to Porsche Centre Melbourne (PCM) about me doing this install to my car and to my surprise they said it should NOT void the warranty on the car. Well if I manage to blow an engine it is a different thing all together but I specifically asked about the RMS and they said no worries. PCM is also a factory owned dealership - the only one in Australia that is. Also on the point of blowing an engine what would a rebuilt be worth as a matter of interest - anyone know?

If the wife shoots down the 997 trade up , maybe this will look like a bargain to her...... Honey, you are right, the 997 is a waste of money and I will just supercharge the hell out of my 996 just to be more conservative with our money Robert

You can pick up a rebuilt for 7500$US, pm me and I'll tell you where. Don't need to pay porsches price.

status?

Hi, I'm in for a reasonable discount.Anyone know of a certified installer in the NYC area? TIA. MartyL

If we have more than 15 units, we should be able to get around 25-30% of discount.That means that the price range would be about 7000 Bucks for the SC. Maybe the best way to organize, is that everyone that is really commited send an e-mail to Ivan or Todd with his name and the year of the 996. What do you guys think? Happy Customizing WOT

RPM Racing in Huntington, good guys, they do all my(that I can't handle) work. Chris [phone removed], Russ or Tasso

I'm very in--would seriously consider clutch/lighweight flywheel combo simultaneously if strongly recommended. V

Ok now I am getting anxious and have a burning desire to spend some cash any more news?!?!?!?!

Never got a call from EVO to set up that account.... Any clue Ivan? -Eli

Hello all, I apologize for the slow response everybody. I have been swamped with work these last days. Providing that everybody interested on this has sent me their locations, I will compile the list and send it to EVO MS to see what discount we can get as soon as possible. I will ask them about the clutch/flywheel too. Unfortunately for me, I already bought it so maybe I will not get any disco on this.

Spoke with Todd just moments ago..... We're up and running.... Ivan: E-mail me at [email removed] -Eli

Hello everyone, I want to really really apologize to y'all. I was leading all this group buy but due to a -fortunate- event, I will not be putting a SC in my car. The reason? See it for your self. A brand new 05 GT3. I will post high rez pics as soon as I get home. So, who wants to take the lead talking to EVO MS? I know Eli has talked to EVO MS. I have compiled a list of some of the members that replied to me with their location but I do not think it gets close to 10 people yet. EVO wanted to see how many could get together and where they are located. I can still interface with EVO if you all want but I think it makes more sense for someone with more skin in the game. Comments?

Comments? Like...CONGRATS man!! That is awesome!!

Ivan, I'll be more than happy to take the lead on the group buy and I'll be able to coordinate with the facilities that will be performing the installations accordingly. Shoot over a list to me and I'll be more than happy to pick it up from there. I too have fallen short on this venture "this time around".... I'm a little short on cash so I'll have to put it off for now. Actually when I get ready for mine I'll drive down to EVO during the week and drive home on the weekend. I�m sorry that we don�t have the kits posted on our site just yet but we�ve only recently make the decision to beef up the 996 part on our site. If anyone has any questions feel free to contact me directly at [email removed] , I'll compile a list of buyers and answer all your questions. I'll send out information as quickly as I get it.... BTW: Ivan you dog, congrats on the GT3..... Eli Sesma General Manager Pelican Parts/ Drivewerks http://www.pelicanparts.com/

Ivan, thanks for getting this project started, and congrats on your new ride! =Carlos= P.S. Eli, you have mail.

Carlos, Let me know if you have any further questions on that list I just sent you.... -Eli

Eli, Thank for running with this. Keep us posted once you get pricing

Eli, I am extremely keen on this and I might sign up but there are some big gotchas I need to get over first. I am in the UK so getting my car to Tod for install is not going to happen. I have researched the "only" installer here in the UK (actually only 20 miles from me) for any kind of SC unit who specialises in Porkers. Company is called Ninemeister. Anyway, I spoke to the guys at 9M and they are the UK's distributor for the EVO MS and are in communication with Tod. However, they have only ever fitted one EVO MS unit but they seem to know their stuff. Check their web site out. It's interesting reading for all. http://www.9mracing.co.uk/html/modul...rger%20Project The issue I have is this: 9M are a bit purturbed at the possibility of me purchasing one of these units and undercutting their profits (naturally). But they said they would install the unit for me if I got one through a group buy but they will only guarantee their work not the unit itself. On the other hand if I buy the unit from them they will warrant the unit too. Now I know that I get the manufacturers warranty but its not so easy to pull bits off and ship them back to the US etc etc....and it would work out expensive in the long run if anything was faulty with the unit. Also, the cost from 9M including fitting is circa �10,000. That's about $19,000 at the current rate of exchange. They said the unit alone is �6,000. So buying the unit via the group buy would be a huge saving for me if I came over there and picked it up. I would have to pay import duty & tax too. So I guess I am asking the following: a) I need Tod to talk to 9M and strike up a deal for parts warranty for me based on "our" deal. b) I need Tod to price mine especially knowing I have to pay 17.5% VAT and 10% import duty. I am happy if he can write me a bogus invoice c) I need to know dimensions and weight of the whole package for shipping purposes (can I carry it home myself)? This may seem silly idea but if it (or the most expensive part of it) can be carried home I will chance the customs. At worst I will have to pay it on entry to Britain. Finally, I am a DIY'er. Realistically, can this be installed DIY or am I dreaming? Does the package come with install instructions? OK, I am done. Cheers.

I think it is dumb to race a 70, 8-k, Porsche against a wrx or an evo. What if you get in an accident or something?

What can I say, i'm not snooty just bc I drive a p-car. The guy was pretty cool and we gave each other the thumbs up.. We we're basically just going back and forth on and off the gas to test each others acceleration, I hardly call that racing.. Racing is what you do on the track right? BTW It was late, no traffic and I had my seat belt on

I think that if you mod your car it could beat a modded wrx.

Looking into the SC..

Just a clarification. A plain WRX can not beat a 911. Not even close. Why do I know? don't ask It takes a mod'd WRX or a STi.

Please see my new post... I've now taken the lead on this Group Buy. If you have any questions please post on the next thread. https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...88#post1838988 -Eli

I didnt say he beat me.. I just said his car was faster then I thought for a wagon ahhaha

BTY, I have my brand new clutch/flywheel I had ordered from EVO MS. It is for a 3.4 engine. Since I can't use it in my GT3... If anybody is interested, PM me.