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I'm the 1st to admit that my tastes have changed......as has the demo that Porsche markets to today.

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Check some autocross times

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Might wanta check some autocross times from your club on prepped 996s vs prepped 993s.

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Might wanta check some autocross times from your club on prepped 996s vs prepped 993s.

Drove a 993

Replace 95 993

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I just bought a 996 C4S to replace my 95 993.

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I test drove a 996 then jumped back in my 993.

Drove a 993

Test drove a fellow listers 993

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I test drove a fellow listers 993 then jumped back in my 996.

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Might wanta check some autocross times from your club on prepped 996s vs prepped 993s.

Drove a 993

Replace ......as has the demo

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I'm the 1st to admit that my tastes have changed......as has the demo that Porsche markets to today.

Drove a 993

Replace 95 993

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I just bought a 996 C4S to replace my 95 993.

Drove a 993

Test drove a 996

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I test drove a 996 then jumped back in my 993.

Drove a 993

Test drove a fellow listers 993

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I test drove a fellow listers 993 then jumped back in my 996.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I test drove a fellow listers 993 then jumped back in my 996. All I have to say is Wow. I love the 993, but my 996 felt light years ahead of the 993. The handling, power, ergonomics, seating position,....you name it Felt better. Visually the 993 is my favorite Porsche, but i'm not sure I could ever go back. Sure we might get **** that the 996 is isnt a real porsche, blah, blah, blah....but its a better car than the 993 hand down in every way. It would be nice to add a 993 to my stable, but it would be complemented by a 996 or 997. I guess Porsche has done their R & D!

POST 2Original post

A 993 would be a fun addition, but not a subsitution.

POST 3Original post

993 would be a fun woman to have on the side, but you don't want to marry her and have talk to her all the time.

POST 4Original post

So we are looking for an older mistress? That is a change. I agree on all counts the 996 is better but 993 does win in the looks department.

POST 5Original post

I've always considered the 993 to be one of the best looking Porsches ever, but the 996 or 997 are much better cars, IMO.

POST 6Original post

I just bought a 996 C4S to replace my 95 993. I haven't sold my 993 yet. I have the best of both worlds, at least until Spring when the 993 gets sold. I would keep both if I could. That being said, I think my new C4S is better looking than the 993.

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I'm convinced the 996 C4S is one of the best looking Carerra's ever built!!

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Yeah, but what the hell do you know.... you don't like argyle sweaters!

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That's because I'm heterosexual, and have taste.

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This is the truth!

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Touch�! Good come back.

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and Phil has MINUTES of seat time in his 996 to prove it!!! sorry Phil, but someone had to say it

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Just because I think I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me!

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A 993 is like that "chic on the side" she's pretty but just isn't good all the way around like the main squeeze.

POST 18Original post

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Totally different cars....."power", bigger engine tends to do that......"handling", your opin is all that matter & it's pretty subjective. Might wanta check some autocross times from your club on prepped 996s vs prepped 993s. Kinda interesting. "Ergonomics" and "seat positions".....no doubt, the 996 has those catagories. But you could also add that form-function of the 993 spoke very well to what the '911 owner' sought 14 years ago......time marches on.

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a 996 is better than a 993 in the same way a 997 is better than a 996. It's called evolution of the breed. Oh and yeah, the 996 C4S is best looking Carrera ever!

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And most of us can't afford the maintenance on both - Nick

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And if we get caught, we end up with neither!

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That's when you "hope" to get a 997.

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Everyone has their own views as to what looks great, but I actually prefer the body style of the 996 over the 993. The only advantage that the 993 has over the 996 is from an investment perspective, at least from what I've read and from the experiences of two friends who own 993s. It seems like well maintained 993s are actually appreciating in value over the past few years, whereas the 996 is still depreciating like 99.9% of the rest of the cars on the market.

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A car is not an investment. Depreciation is a cost that all car owners bear. All you can compare is how far and how fast the value drops, and then whether owning it was worth that price.

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I dont own a 993, but I can say I took my '87 C3.2 for a drive to my hometown that is a 100 miles away and I could not wait to get out of the seat, I was dying. The same trip in the 996 was effortless with very minimal fatigue.

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I consider my 996 to be a great investment in my mental health.

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There is something to be said for "creature comforts." For me, the 993 would be more raw and would be fun occasionally, but for every day driving, I think I would prefer the 996.

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Tippy.......not to belabor my earlier but.....can you honestly say that when you shopped for a "sports car" & 1st drove your Turbo....that effort and low fatigue were prime motivators? I'm the 1st to admit that my tastes have changed......as has the demo that Porsche markets to today. A good share of the credit for their success is that marketing. And...I've heard some say that today's GT3 is the closest parallel in time travel back....for those who want to go there. The 3 or the RS are not for the effortless, the 100 mile, or for the daily.

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Gregg, I hear what you are saying but it's a bit of a stretch to say the GT3 is a travel back in time. The GT3/RS is a parallel to the 964RS or the 993RS/RSCS. Certainly not to the base cars. All of these were very very special cars that barely resemble their benefactors. Luckily Porsche finally decided to bring them to the US.

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"Back in time" was a poor choice of words (by those I've heard use them ).....but I do still feel there's some parallels.......the buyer today of a 3 and Tippy buying his 87 Turbo. People did not buy those cars for their JD Powers ranking, nor comfortable seating for the long drive (oops, that will offend some people, sorry....hey, I do own a 996). I do understand your point.....the models we mention are very different from the regular line of their time.....then & now.

POST 31Original post

You can tell everyone is still in the holiday spirit... a rationale 993 vs. 996 discussion!

POST 32Original post

I test drove a 996 then jumped back in my 993. All I have to say is Wow. I love the 996, but my 993 felt light years apart from the 996. The handling, power, ergonomics, seating position,....you name it Felt better. Visually the 996 is my favorite water-cooled Porsche, but i'm not sure I could ever go there. Sure we might get **** that the 993 isnt fast by today's standards, blah, blah, blah....but it's a better expression of Butzi's and Ferry's ideals than the 996 hand down in every way. It would be nice to add a 996 to my stable, but it would be complemented by a 993 or 997. I guess Porsche had done their R & D!

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I really enjoyed the 993's that I've driven. I've even had one out on the track. Nice cars, but my favorite "air-cooleds" are the pre-impact bumper 911's.

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Yepper Nope....almost 500hp and cheaper were the prime motivators.

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