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I was browsing around the net looking to replace my 996 with either a 997 or turboed 996 in the near future.
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I heard if the passenger airbag deploys then you need to change the whole dashboard, how true is that?
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but putting it back to "good" will/could cost a lot and in the end a salvage title will be a son of a biatch to sell - my old car had accident history and when the topic would come up - potential buyers would almost instantly hang up - I can imagine how fast they would run for a salvage title
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but putting it back to "good" will/could cost a lot and in the end a salvage title will be a son of a biatch to sell - my old car had accident history and when the topic would come up - potential buyers would almost instantly hang up - I can imagine how fast they would run for a salvage title
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I was browsing around the net looking to replace my 996 with either a 997 or turboed 996 in the near future. Well as I browsed around I found this deal on eBay. This dealer claims to put in well over $30,000 into it already and Transmission and engine run smooth. If he sells it for $15k with a rebuilt title I say you will need to invest another $5k and im sure you can resell it for $30,000.
What do you guys think?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Turbo...exp=true#v4-43
I am not sure a salvage 996 turbo is worth $30k
and there is no way to know all the problems without having the car 100% done
you could find yourself right where this owner is - thinking - crap I spent all this money and the car needs a (xxxxxxx) and it costs ($xxxxx) - its not worth it, sell it and let someone else worry about it
buy a nice car, you deserve it - not a headache or a project that turns into a nightmare
IMO.
Looks like it is worth looking into. Base MSRP was $114,K+. The seats look pretty rough for 63K miles so might not be original full leather although looks like Porsche crest on them. Tip might be OK in a Turbo. I wish they would have said more about previous damage. Always easy to find OEM TT wheels cheap. Rear bumperettes are not original body color. Looks like it is parked at a business that does this for a living so workmanship may be OK.
You have point there but what do you think its value is after it is fully repaired? Also, what depreciates faster a turbo 996 or a c4 997?
I mean theres this guy on ebay is selling his salvaged turbo for $10k in much worse condition but again i doubt anyone is going to buy it for that much from him.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2003-PORSCHE...s_Cars&vxp=mtr
I think it could be a great deal
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you are able to finish the needed work yourself, the drivetrain is mechanically sound, the stated condition is accurate with no major surprises and you intend to keep the car for awhile. The Tiptronic transmission in the Turbo models is a very stout gearbox, so I wouldn't worry about it too much (besides the boring factor).
If you think you're going to buy a salvage title 911 Turbo, clean it up and flip it for a profit, I think you are not being realistic. I think it could be a great buy if you want a good deal on 996T for yourself, though.
two things will hurt this in resell, automatic and salvaged title.
but if you are fine with auto and just want a cheap 996tt this looks like a winner so long as the engine and trans check out fine. You wont get 30k from a salvage 996tt. I have seen clean title 6speed 996tt go for as little as 35-38k I looked at there online website and they are in the buesness of selling just rebuildable vehicles 99% of which are bought from insurnace auctions.
He also states that the Passenger Airbag needs to be replaced. I heard if the passenger airbag deploys then you need to change the whole dashboard, how true is that?
Im not necessarily looking to flip it but just to get my money back after i keep it for a while.
What do you guys think its Value is after its fully repaired?
You can get a whole 996 dash fairly cheaply if you look around. The airbag might be a little more difficult to obtain, but I bet you could find one for under $500 without much effort.
Current market value of 996TT is well known. Advertiser claims original MSRP was over $115,K so I was just pointing out this could be a low option car.
Automatic and a salvaged tile. Two nice red flags there. Run a mile from it. You have a 99 996. What are you thinking. If you are thinking of upgrading, go for a 997. The photos are a turn off as well. An old saying is never inspect a car finish in the rain. I see they have sprayed it with water for the photos. I looked no further than that first photo. What the hell dyu want a turbo for anyway. Is the 1999 996 not fast enough for you? Give us a break. It's head banging time again for me.
You guys are right! Im going to let this one pass by I think theres going to be allot of hassle with it and another thing that kills it is, its automatic.
Everyone thanks for your opinions you guys are truly awesome!
Im really debating between getting a 997 or a 996 turbo. Since the market price on them are very similar? Which would be a better investment?
in the first post you "assume" he wiould sell it for $15k - I didnt see that, so I figured that is a guess on value - there's a grey area, what if he wants $30k
secondly - you could track the car and forego the dash fix!
gut it
with AWD if the front was hit - remove the AWD
see there are ways to make it work
but putting it back to "good" will/could cost a lot and in the end a salvage title will be a son of a biatch to sell - my old car had accident history and when the topic would come up - potential buyers would almost instantly hang up - I can imagine how fast they would run for a salvage title
If it were me looking at it, I'd buy it (assuming the drivetrain was good and it wasn't Tiptronic), clean up the exterior a bit, gut it and make it a track toy.
Well that is what I would bid up to but I called that fella and he is selling that car for a buddy of his and he said he wants $22k he said the collision was in the front end. He bought it wrecked I asked if it had any other damage to it and he didn't know. He said he got a few calls over seas about it but that may be just marketing.
Then again If I can find 996 TT for $35k in good condition Id rather invest couple more bucks and go around those headaches.
Neither one is an investment - they are both depreciating assets and will continue to lose value very predictably. An investment has the opportunity to gain in value - these cars do not.
Took the words right out of my, uh... keyboard.
Buy the best and nicest Porsche you can afford. 996TTs are great buys and amazing cars. The 997s are a little nicer, particularly in terms of the interior -and start out with 473 HP v.s 415 for the 996.
The only time I would ever consider buying either a salvaged car or a collision-repaired one is if I was provided with a full set of pictures showing the accident damage and an invoice or statement showing exactly what was replaced and where/by whom. That's just me though. Not all salvage scenarios are the same. The car that was rolled into a drainage ditch by a joy-rider on meth is far different from the one that was caught in a hailstorm in the Costco parking lot. And to be consistent, any car of mine that has had damage that I sell privately comes with a set of "before" pictures and documentation as well.
The worn leather isn't a big deal, I was going to replace the leather in my old 928 and I paid a profressional to restore all the leather, came out looking like new, at a reasonable cost. I was shocked at the difference it made. There are some talented people out there!
If you definitely want a turbo for keeps I can see a few positives from buying this car:
1) You have a 996 turbo (assuming you can be assured of the damage/repairs prior to purchase, professional inspection).
2) It would never be financially sensible to sell it once you've got, i.e. your partner cannot say when you need money for a new house, home improvements, mini me's, oh you could sell the porsche; ur no, because I'd lose too much and it's simply not worth much
3) It could be a bargain, if 1 pans out.
4) You could never do any more damage to it than has been done previously, so just enjoy, perhaps track it once you're bored of it as a daily driver
In summary, I'd buy it and keep it (if a professional inspection provided some assurances). I'd probably a buy a 997 too at a later date. We should all aspire to collecting as many porsches as we can, I have a 996 and a 928, I'd really like to have a speedster (replica) and a 944 turbo too (but I would never get away with that lol).
I'm with Rohrl. It depends first on how bad the damage was and second how well it was fixed.
The salvage title menas you will buy it cheap (and sell it cheap eventually too). The bargain happens when you get a *good* car cheap.
I have a buddy in town that bought a salvage title GT3 for less than $40K. In that case the damage was a little bit cosmetic and some broken suspension pieces. Fixing it good as new (actually better than new because suspension was upgraded) dead right was easy-peasy.
Had the tub been bent though....he would have been well advised to walk away.
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