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Failure Indicator & How long to warm up?

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Replace those lately

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Have you replaced those lately?

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You are correct but my coolant level is ok, and the fact that my oil pressure took longer to drop make me believe that the engine was running cool.

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You are correct but my coolant level is ok, and the fact that my oil pressure took longer to drop make me believe that the engine was running cool.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

A few days ago while driving particularly slowly to work in the 996 C4S Tip for the first and only time to date I got the "Failure Indicator" message for the temperature gauge. Flashing red light on gauge and needle fully left. When it recovered the gauge was reading 60C after which it slowly rose to 80C. I understand that on Tip cars this can be caused by a problem with the activation of the disc valve on the oil/water transmission cooler e.g.: non sealing valve leaking vacuum pipe faulty solenoid valve Based on this a couple of questions: What is the source of the vacuum which operates the disc valve? I then got to thinking that since I've had the car I've thought that it warms up a little slower than perhaps it should. Its winter here now so morning starting temperature is around 20C (68f). In the CTT coolant is at 80C (180f) in 3-4 minutes and oil temp at 90C (194f) about 7 mins after starting. doing the same journey in the C4S it has taken at least 10-12 mins for the coolant to reach 80C (180f) and the oil pressure probably another 5 minutes to normalise; is this normal for a 996 3.6L engine at this starting temperature? Any feedback appreciate, thanks.

POST 2Original post

I believe the temp gauge will also flash red if the coolant tank level is low, so that might be an easy resolution. If I'm mistaken, I apologize. This was the case in my Boxster, so I imagine it's the same for the 996.

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Quotes source post: 10984374

You are correct but my coolant level is ok, and the fact that my oil pressure took longer to drop make me believe that the engine was running cool. I've read that if the disc valve is faulty it will substantially slow the rate of 'warm up', but this only applies to Tips.

POST 4Original post

I have a 99 Tip and that sounds a little slow to me. I'll time mine this AM when I take off and let you know how long mine takes.

POST 5 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks, it does seem a little odd to me that it takes about twice as long to warm up as the big Cayenne engine.

POST 6Original post

There is about 20litres of coolant in 996. It will take more time to heat up. The coolant temp sensor might be going bad. Enginebay temp sensor allso triggers the red flashing light, but it will not cause the temp reading to change.

POST 7 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 10984940

Comments appreciated guys. There are 21 litres of coolant in a V8 Cayenne, so that one doesn't explain it either.

POST 8Original post

I was thinking about this and was wondering - have you considered the thermostat, or water pump? Have you replaced those lately? The thermostat could be worn out and opening too soon (weak spring). The impeller blades on the water pump could be worn out and not moving enough coolant. Just my 2 cents.

POST 9Original post

Just a follow up I timed mine yesterday morning. Garage temp was 65F and outside 55F. It took exactly 5 minutes to get to 180F on the temp gauge and another 3 minutes for the oil pressure to drop to the normal operating range.

POST 10 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 10986442

I have thought about a lot of things but the issue that I quoted above put forward by RFM on Renntech made a lot of sense to me from a logic point of view. The first step though is establish whether I actually have a problem rather than a glitch. Owning 4 Porsches has convinced my that glitches are a way of life.

POST 11 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 10986774

Thanks for taking the time to research that for me; I'm now fairly sure that do have an issue of some sort.

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