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YOUR RESEARCHTip or Stick?
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Replace tip - my left hip
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Tip - my left hip was replaced a month after acquiring my P-car.
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For the record I use my automatic Grand Cherokee for commuting most days.
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He has a reliable car with a warranty and I have to keep repairing these money pits I buy.
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But in a sports car, I prefer to change gears myself.
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I think it all depends on where you drive it and what you use the car for really.
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As for the tippy imagine driving any automatic vehicle and using the lever to shift down from your overdrive or "D" position down to a lower gear or the reverse.
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but I outweighed the guy by 100 lbs so it really didn't work...
I went tip... mostly because I secretly wanted to use it as a DD (I told my wife a couple of days a week and weekends) and rush hour traffic can get a little hairy sometimes (my left leg is still an inch larger than my right one after having to drive my wife's Miata in rush hour traffic so many years ago)... While I was in the shopping stages an overly aggressive salesman tried coerce me into going stick by questioning my masculinity... but I outweighed the guy by 100 lbs so it really didn't work... I'm good with my choice and when I want to play with the gears the tip works just fine...
Rudy
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'01 Arctic Silver/Black C2 Cabriolet
'03 Silver F-150 Supercrew
Stick. My 911 is not a daily so I don't get too annoyed when I drive it to work. Now if I had to drive 2 hours in stop and go and it's my daily, maybe my answer would be different. But in a sports car, I prefer to change gears myself.
For the record I use my automatic Grand Cherokee for commuting most days.
I didn't own an automatic transmission car until my thirties....stick just seems natural to me and involves me in the driving experience in ways an automatic doesn't. Yet, for regular heavy traffic or a car that I might lend to guests--only an automatic makes sense.
This poll is like asking if you're a female or a male.
It seems there are way more female 996 owners out there than we realize.
p.s. For the "sensitive" tip owners, I'm joking.
I did 6mnths in LA traffic in a stick and hated it except for the odd occasion when I got to stretch it legs...
Sold it and got a tip instead... Ideally you need em both, tip for Mon-Fri... Stick for w/e's...
I'm 6'3" and I have never hit my knee on the steering wheel while shifting my 911. There is more than enough room in the 996 for tall drivers.
I also am not bothered by driving a stick in heavy traffic. Granted, I don't drive in heavy traffic every day but when I do I hardly even notice operating the clutch or shifting the car. It all seems to happen naturally to me without giving it any thought.
I drive a stick and can't imagine driving anything else. But, my first impression of PDK from a recent Porsche dealer event was outstanding - the closest thing to a stick without a clutch that I can imagine.
At the end of the day, I'm a traditionalist - I prefer a stick.
... and your point is????? Don't tell me you expected better from me!
You know I am only kidding!
BTW - how is the rebuild goinig? Will she be ready to run in January?
Ooouuuch. Cory didn't even rag on the Honda Tim!
I gotta be honest, I never really hear this tip/stick argument in NYC or LA proper (say Santa Monica to Hollywood), except from:
a) people under the age of 22
b) people over the age of 40
c) people who don't drive at all (Manhattan, you'd be surprised)
d) people who are buying or just bought their first sports car
In other words youths, those trying to relive their youth, and other idealists.
As to my opinion, I'm a realist. I think it all depends on where you drive it and what you use the car for really. My own hubris and/or prevailing transmission availability has caused me to have driven stick daily in CENTRAL NY/LA/London/HK/Dubai/Bangalore and ocasionally in other high density cities all over Asia, Europe, and Latin America, and I am OVER it. Since I use the 911 now as my sole car in and out of Manhattan, I personally love the tip since 90% of my driving is stoplight to stoplight, and I only crack it open once in a very blue moon. Not the best use of a 911 but hey what should I do, drive an SL? I'm barely 31 for chrissake, and I'd rather the Porsche.
Now before you say hey the Porsche clutch ain't the M3/Vette/355 whatever clutch, it's easy, etc, I concede, you're right. If I had to choose a manual to drive in a true urban jungle it would be the 911, but I've had the chance to drive manual 930s, 993s, 996s, 997s and boxsters in town, and I just don't like being in and out of 1st all day. They aren't fun here, not in town, not for me anymore. And they make a transmission for markets like this, the tip! Perfect!
But these cars with manuals are a pleasure once you get out on highways or country roads! So if you are in suburban areas or spend most of your time at higher speeds, I think stick, no question really. Obviously if you track the car it's a simple choice as well (at least in the N/A cars, seems turbo tips put in some pretty good laptimes compared to the manuals). And if you keep multiple cars in the same location and consider it a weekender, obviously stick again.
I'm currently considering cocking up and doing a turbo this winter or early spring, and I will drive a couple of manual 6TTs to see if I can tool around in second most of the time with all that torque, but it seems from everything I read that an even lightly chipped turbo will fry stock clutches faster than you can say slip, so that might be a tip too (assuming that doesn't blow up too)
I still haven't had my PDK spin, but if it's anything like the DSG I'm sure it's amazing. One thing I will say about the DSG compared to the SMG or F1 trans in BMW/Ferrari is it's almost to smooth, no discernible disengagement of the driveline at all, whereas the SMG/1 type trans slaps you in and out f gear really hard. DSG feels almost like CVT, not like an auto where you have definite changes in delivery and evident weight transfer at each shift
He didn't have to because I rag on my Honda every chance I get!
Good points about the stick/Tip debate.
BTW - in case you didn't know..... I HATE my f!@#$%^*ing Honda!
Not even close! I just ran some more numbers and the parts bill is getting higher and higher. It went up another grand I didn't account for before. Where is the puke emotocon.
Its because I am jealous. He has a reliable car with a warranty and I have to keep repairing these money pits I buy. hehe
Wanna trade for an engineless 911?
I envy your garage. Even with (perhaps especially with) the C2 being a tip. Although I'd go for the C4 tip so I could drive it year 'round easily. In fact, I may...someday...
I'm with htny...I'm a realist. I can tell you during times when I've owned an autobox Subie with an older Porsche (like I do now) I found myself with a bigger dilema in the garage every morning than one might think...far too often it ended up with me in the Subie.
...or, maybe I'm just getting old...
OUCH!! Sorry to hear about the extra cost! Here, does this help?
I'll trade cars if you also want to trade jobs. However, I must warn you that my job ends tomorrow.
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I do have a question that is kind of on-topic. I asked it before, but was not very clear in my question and recieved an overly technical reply. I have never driven a tip or a PDK. What is the difference in feel between the tip shifting in manual mode or the PDK? (Other than the obvious steering wheel paddles)
Jon,
I have not driven either a Tip or a PDK equipped car. There are a few threads on the 997 Forum that talk about individual experiences with the PDK.
Mdrums
, who lost his left leg in a motorcycle accident about 5 years ago, had a 997 with Tip (either '05 or '06) and now owns a '09 (997.5) with PDK. He has made a few comments on the relativity of Tip vs. PDK.
You really cannot compare the two. As for the"feel" PDK gives you the same sensation as if you were driving a manual tyanny car. At low speeds you will feel the clutch slipping and compensating for engine speeds. Just as you would modulate a clutch in a manual car, best wat to describe the feel would be to call in very analog and human like. As for the tippy imagine driving any automatic vehicle and using the lever to shift down from your overdrive or "D" position down to a lower gear or the reverse.
