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YOUR RESEARCHOk So I found the Growl, not good. Any help?
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I've heard too many stories about supposed rebuilds that were actually just used transmissions with unknown histories.
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It's like rebuilding an engine without replacing the bearings!
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Most of our competitors CLAIM to rebuild transmissions by merely replacing the synchro rings.
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Now I am being told that it makes sense to just replace the whole transmission due to labor and parts and that a re-manufactured one from Porsche is $7,500 plus core, shipping yada, yada.
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Not if you're paying for the labor to R&R the transmission, towing costs, lost use, packing and shipping costs, delays waiting for another rebuild, etc.
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Now I am being told that it makes sense to just replace the whole transmission due to labor and parts and that a re-manufactured one from Porsche is $7,500 plus core, shipping yada, yada.
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Not if you're paying for the labor to R&R the transmission, towing costs, lost use, packing and shipping costs, delays waiting for another rebuild, etc.
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About a year ago I posted to the board "complaining" about a growl in my 200 996 c4 cab. ( i have no idea how to link to that post. sorry.) I thought it sounded like a 4wd issue. Over the year the sound got worse. Well this spring I noticed that I was going to need a clutch. I took it to a local shop that specializes in P cars. After a drive and a transmission inspection he found that the bearing on the pinion shaft was seized to the shaft, there were teeth in the housing (yikes) and the magnet that Porsche, in their wisdom, installed was covered in metal shavings.
Thats the good news. Now I am being told that it makes sense to just replace the whole transmission due to labor and parts and that a re-manufactured one from Porsche is $7,500 plus core, shipping yada, yada. I found one at Suncoast for $6,500 and a non porsche one offered by Vertex Rebuilt for $3,400.
Does anyone have any suggestions or words of wisdom?
I would be very reluctant to buy a non-Porsche rebuild from a vendor that doesn't specialize in rebuilds. I've heard too many stories about supposed rebuilds that were actually just used transmissions with unknown histories.
Never been inside the 996 6 spd, but I bet you could just get an input shaft from Powerhaus II or somewhere else and replace it. A weld repair and machining could be done on the case if need be.
Non-Porsche worried me too but this Vertex says they "specialize" in only Porsche and offer a one year warranty. This is language from their site:
" * Our Expert Porsche Technicians perform the most thorough transmission rebuilds in the industry! Most of our competitors CLAIM to rebuild transmissions by merely replacing the synchro rings. What kind of rebuild is that? It's like rebuilding an engine without replacing the bearings!
Be sure to ask our competitors what parts are replaced in their rebuilds, don't be fooled in to buying an inferior product!
Our complete transmission rebuilds include, but are not limited to, the following parts:
OEM Synchro Rings
* OEM Slider Hubs
* Differential Bearings
* Shift Sleeve Detents
* OEM Gasket & "O" Ring set
One Year Warranty! "
Seems A LOT cheaper and even though I am usually one of those you get what you pay for guys I could replace this transmission twice for the price of a Porsche trans!
Not if you're paying for the labor to R&R the transmission, towing costs, lost use, packing and shipping costs, delays waiting for another rebuild, etc.
Sorry for all the posts guys, just freaking out a little. I spoke with Gilbert at Vertex he said he has no transmissions in stock but if I ship him mine it's 2 days to miami, 2 days to rebuild with
OEM Parts
and 1 year warranty and 2 days back to NY. Shipping is 150 each way, rebuild is $3,400. I feel kind of good about it but I want to make sure my transmission isn't going to end up in Cuba. But, seriously, any other "great ideas?"
Thanks for all the support guys. I found two decent places with great customer service. Gabriel at Vertexauto.com had a complete rebuild for $3,399 plus $150 each way in shipping. By far the cheapest price I found. He didn't have any in stock so if I shipped mine down he'd turn it around in 2 days. 6 days total with shipping.
The other guy was Eric Johnson at Carquip. I guess Powerhaus broke up or "restructured" and my e-mail to them was forwarded to him. He knew Vertex Auto and had nothing bad to say about them. In fact he supplies them with a few parts that he has made for his shop as a specialty. He talked me into going with him because of some mumbo jumbo about the Dogrings being a hard weld to do right and the tolerances on the 996 being so tight that it isn't uncommon to have the dogring weld come undone on non-factory rebuilds. Also, he scared me a little saying that it wasn't uncommon to have 2nd gear pop out if things weren't done right. I don't know if it was BS but the difference was $1,300 and he really spent a lot of time with me so I gave him the business. Who knows, perhaps I am just another example that P.T. Barnum was right! (sucker being born every minute)
Anyway, thanks for the good thoughts and wishes. The car should be back in business in a week.
