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Paid $175 on ebay, only one installed momentarily...yours for $100.
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Install muffler bypass pipes and my god is it loud
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I just partially installed the muffler bypass pipes and my god is it loud!!
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I run open pipes in my race car and with nothing but bare metal inside it is incredibly loud - inside and out.
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While my son Sasha thought it was the greatest thing ever.
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You can't really run bypass pipes on the street without upsetting everyone (be fair)..
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I just partially installed the muffler bypass pipes and my god is it loud!!
I'm actually glad one of the exhaust clamp bolts was rusted on the passenger side and only got to install one. I can't even imagine what it would have sounded like if I installed both! How do you guys do it?
I do really like the tips though. It's a shame you have to spend $300+ for nice tips, but you can get these bypass bipes with tips included for $175. I may just cut off the tips and use them or resell the pipes here.
Anyone interested in a set of bypass pipes? Paid $175 on ebay, only one installed momentarily...yours for $100.
I would NOT run the engine with only one bypass pipe installed. The back pressure difference between the two banks of cylinders is not good for the engine IMHO...BEWARE!!!
get a Fister D muffler
they are really really really nice - bypass pipes are just plane horrid on the streets
(unless you are going for that John Deere sound)
Thanks. Only went down the street and back to test it. Putting the muffler back in the morning. Just waaaay too damn loud. Even louder than the youtube clips I heard.
I have considered the bypass pipes for my 996 in the past, but decided against them because I knew they would be too loud for my tastes. Your experience only helps to confirm I made the right choice...
Bypass.....
Because Race Car
On a side note, I made some bypasses with my stock tips since I have some GT2 tips on my hacked cans and was doing nothing with the stock tips. I did a little bit of experimenting and found that the biggest issue with sound inside the car is the exhaust note resonating in the cavity that was occupied by the muffler. If you get your bypasses to exit outside the rear bumper far enough it is a very bearable noise when you are in the car, and only really obnoxiously loud when you want it to be and pin it, or it echos between big buildings, tunnels, or overpasses. I enjoy it though, and when I have my almost 1yr old son in the back seat the silly smirk and giggle that he emits when I let loose is awesome. The true makings of a gear head.
I have to agree. The PSE is much better. The muffler delete sounds like crap. It reminds me of a ricer wanna be street racer n00b. Do the PSE balance tube instead.
So it seems that the PSE and Fister mod are the same however there are different routing or hack options. The PSE mod seems a bit quieter than the Fister Mod is this correct? Guess it depends on diameter and which area one routes the additional pipe? After these bypass pipes, now I want the quietest upgrade from stock. PSE mod?
Yes, it is quieter, as you are using "more" muffler with the PSE hack. There is barely any volume difference with PSE hack, except when you start or free rev the car. Otherwise it is just a change in the way it sounds (way for the better), not volume. Fister mod will sound about the same as PSE, just louder.
Good thing I decided to install the passenger side before attempting to resell these. It doesn't fit! My thoughts were that I would just live with the sound for a few days while I go get my stock cans "PSE Hacked" and order some Cat Delete pipes. Well the passenger barely makes it over the pipe. Good reason to return them.
Also, I took a quick clip of a cold start....just too loud. Funny thing is it doesn't sound that loud with the iPhone mic, but it's much louder in person. I didn't even want to rev it too much because I felt embarrased.
http://youtu.be/MamDEZeNCrw
Here's a pic in stock form.... I just picked her up a few weeks ago. I got the windows lightly tinted, installed the K&N Intake, Installed updated LED Taillights, OEM european sidemarkers, and now these crappy bypass pipes.
H&R Coilovers just got here sitting in the box, LED 3rd brake light, Roderick RW6, Alumi guage rings, Aluminum Pedals all sitting here waiting to be installed.
These are the Depo/Dectane ones that look OEM. I've had pretty good luck with Depo on my previous euro cars and I thought these looked the most OEM. They give an updated look from behind. You can pick them up from eBay.
^ best part is when you hit the fuel cut on redline...it starts to crackle and pop with enough violence to set off alarms and scare anyone in a 1 block radius.
I can handle the tires being silent in fast turn but a louder exhaust might be too inviting for a ticket giver.
My last ticket on my bike was $500 so I don't need to see those biased tax collectors again.
My friend built me mine. They deepened after about 300 miles. I have taken 2 hour trips with the bypass and I think you just get used to it after a while.
This video is about a day after I installed them.
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Where have you purchased your taillights? They look great!
I sometimes drive my track car to the shop and I cannot imagine ever wanting to have muffler bypass pipes for street use. But they are great for the track in conjunction with stock cats for the back pressure!
I've got EvoMS headers with Fabspeed mufflers and I think it sounds awesome. I'm not sure how it compares to PSE or any of the other alternatives. People have always been very positive about the Fister D option.
-Eric
I have a set of
996 After Hours Exhaust
that is nearly a bypass. (does have straight through mufflers). Going to remove since planning to list for sale with stock exhaust.
I tried to run my street car with the Muffler bypass pipes on the street for about 2 months and it was not something that I would do long term... While my son Sasha thought it was the greatest thing ever.
You can't really run bypass pipes on the street without upsetting everyone (be fair).. I run open pipes in my race car and with nothing but bare metal inside it is incredibly loud - inside and out. You absolutely MUST wear hearing protection. I won't take someone for a ride without it.
I have molded ear plugs for communications, but for basic protection I found the Howard Leight plugs are the best bang for the buck. A box of 100 costs next to nothing and they are reusable. Don't get them one at a time at a race shop. Get the industrial box. Much cheaper. I have a bag of them with me and hand them out all over the place.
These are a bargain:
http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/sa...ing-protection
My track prepared but street legal (not gutted) GT3 has Fabspeed exhaust and headers. Cats are gutted. Its loud but acceptable for the street when I don't wind it up. But on the track, the car is wound up to high RPM's all the time and I absolutely wear ear plugs. My passengers in the GT3 too. Sometimes wear them on long trips as well.
Don't get the corded ones
!!. They seem convenient, but you can snag the cord (especially on a HANS) and pull the plug out a bit.
I still have mild tinnitus from a plug getting snagged and someone going by with open pipes three years ago - in my street legal GT3....
At the track, you need hearing protection not just for your car but also for the cars around you. I surely wouldn't want to hear my race car (avatar) pass without hearing protection.
If its loud enough to hurt its already waaaaay past the point of doing permanent damage.
Fabspeed headers, mufflers and cats sound great on the street. But if you wind it up you need protection.
Post of the year!!!
You should really start a new thread for this, it is that important...for the life of me I have not been able to find a good folder gluer, UNTIL NOW.
Thanks for the feedback guys, glad everyone is enjoying there Fabspeed systems.
Hey Akshun, if you are looking for something aggressive but can be quiet and subtle with a click of a button, check out our Valvetronic Mufflers. They give you the best of both worlds, so you can go from running a muffler to bypassing the muffler. The mufflers sound great already and are perfect for everyday driving, but you can hit the sport button and go into loud track car mode. We also have our Supercup mufflers which are louder then the maxflo Mufflers but quieter then the straight bypass pipes. The Valvetronic Mufflers are the popular thing right now as everyone wants control and the option for two great things.
PM me if you have any question and for special member pricing.
Thanks,
Fabspeed 996 Valvetronic Muffler Video:
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