996 Buyer tips?

Putting together some videos about buying older Porsche cars like the 996. Can you confirm all my advice is accurate and through enough? Thanks. Things to look out for: -PPI -IMS bearing. Was it replaced? ARE YOU SURE?? -Burned out clutch AND what that could mean about the previous owner -Some kind of rear seal leak issue(was it addressed) -Regular maintenance records? -More than 1 owner or too many owners? -Body work done? Indications of damage -Was it tracked? -Cheap performance mods? -Service intervals current and are there any upcoming intervals quickly approaching? What about a test drive? Any sounds to listen for or other suspect mechanical behaviors?

This issues are all well known, IMS, AOS, RMS, Clutch (not an issue but should be done @ 80,000 kms there abouts). All pretty straight forward making the 996 the best value 911 buy a wide margin!!!

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Thanks! AOS is news to me but I just looked it up. Good info!

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Also, please recommend places for Pre-Purchase Inspection in Los Angeles , Teterboro NJ, Boston Massachusetts and Miami Florida.

Find a shop that's able to check these items below as well. 1. Body paint work with proper paint gauge 2. Over revs with Piwis tester 3. Accident/impact triggers in the airbag control units with Piwis tester 4. Mileage discrepancy in control units with Piwis tester Paint work and control units checks are very important. I just finish inspecting a RS 4.0 in Oklahoma Coty and I'm glad that all these tools came in play. Let me know if there are anything that we can help. Cheers

These cars had a wide range of available options such as Porsche Stability Management, full leather, Litronic/Bi-Xenon headlights, Bose stereo, etc. It is wise for a buyer to familiarize themselves with these and determine if any are desirable.

PPI, PPI, And oh yea PPI!

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If AOS is news then please make sure you do A LOT more research before you publish a video on buying a car you know too little about. You would only discredit yourself in the process. There is a lot of information available on Rennlist but you might also want to check out Renntech and other 996 specific forums for information. You should also consider reaching out to known vendors/experts who support the community with parts and services. Best of luck! -Eric

Has the water pump been replaced and if so when?

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I agree and some of the OP points aren't really valid as to whether the car is a good car or not.

Just get a ppi and be done with it. I like 1 owner cars and plenty of service records. If there's minor paint work, no big deal. As long as there's no salvage title, a good ppi can find these things. Also, wouldn't lose sleep about the IMS. Majority of people who changed it, including myself, have found that there original bearing was In perfect condition. 2k is a lot for a big "what if" in my opinion. Just have your mechanic inspect the oil filter when he's doing the oil changes, otherwise just drive the car and enjoy

this might help with your project : https://rennlist.com/forums/911-foru...immermann.html

Go talk to Mike and Keith at Power Tech. Bring your camera and see if they will let you do some vid of what ever is on the racks. http://www.pwr-tech.com/ Don't forget C&C Sunday at the Hilton

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Your list is woefully under populated. While you do mention some important things the things you do not mention are very important too. There is the issue of theft recovery, salvage title, flood damage which may or may not show up on any title search. There are mods and then there are mods. I could go on. If you want to do a good video on buying older Porsches remember first and foremost they are just used cars. A thorough used car check out preceded by an intelligent test ride/drive followed by a PPI after the used car check out and test ride/drive with all that entails is what you need to put on film.

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Sorry guys. I was reading some of these replies and I was ready set some people straight until I realized I forgot to put the PPI. OK, so keep in mind my list is with a PPI in mind. Meaning it's assuming you are doing a PPI as well. I was talking about things for you to inspect BEFORE you spend a dime on anything. Clearly if you spend on a PPI and it fails, you wasted your money(or saved much more!), so you want to avoid doing that until YOU have done YOUR due diligence. That is what this list really is. The things you can check yourself before you go any further. So my audience is people who know nothing about Porsche except what they saw on Top Gear or heard from a buddy at work. So with that in mind I think my list as is with just the addition of the two items mentioned by you guys is very useful. If I were on the market, I'd be happy with just this info as a good starting point. The value is rather than spending hours researching online, you can get a sense of the issues that you need to consider all in one place. Although right now I'm thinking it would be nice to start thinking about moving beyond pre-purchase and move into ownership experience so buyers know what they are getting into beyond acquisition. I'm thinking: -Have $2000-$3000 ready/available each year just in case you need repair work and to cover maintenance. You may get away with much less, but I think having this much is smart. -Where should you have it serviced? Dealer? Private mechanic? I recommend identifying an independent, honest/reliable Porsche specialist or even better do your own work. -Cost of typical expendables? Tires and brakes... -Cost of typical body work in the event of a fender bender. Some cars because of their design can be extremely expensive to repair even basic body damage. -Theft issues? Is it a high theft vehicle. Thanks everyone! This is all good stuff!

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Interesting. I have not heard too much talk about this part failure. Are they warning signs I need to advise new buyers about? Any immediate symptoms?

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Thanks! Appreciate the info!

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Thanks for the tips. As far as doing more research...well...that IS what I'm doing here with this post right?

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Seriously? You call this research... Gathering the random opinions of people who may, or may not have any clue about what they are talking about? Oh dear.

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Those guys are supposed to be pretty good and specialize in Porsche. I think they charge $180 for PPI also.

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LOL - that's the entire rasion d'etre for the internet n'est pas??

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If you're using this post as the basis for producing a video for 996 buyers you're years from producing something worthwhile...unless you want it to be perceived as fluff or mostly for entertainment value. Yes, clearly you're asking questions in this post, and I don't mean this disrespectfully, but you're showing us that you haven't really done any research at all. You need to do more than ask for information. You need to find it. A quick Google will give you far more information. You can't expect to fill a single post with enough information to develop a video. You need to read all of the 996 boards, reach out to Porsche, aftermarket companies, service techs, buy some books on 996es and 911s, go to Porsche events, talk (face to face) with 996 owners, etc. In other words, you need to actually make an investment. Things like AOS and water pump failures are all over these boards and are well known to buyers/owners. They're a part of the vernacular. Saying they're news to you is like acting surprised the 911 is a rear engined car (something I hope isn't news to you). It's just my opinion but you need to do a lot more than what you're suggesting you're doing here before you talk about making a video. -Eric

My tip: Learn how to fix it yourself. This makes a 996 and any other car, much more affordable.

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Yes. That IS how you research. It's called being thorough. You don't just look at one source, you look at as many sources as you can find and then in the end you analyze all your data and make some judgement calls on the validity of the data and publish your results. Talking to people who actually own the cars is a GREAT source of information. For the most part, nobody is trying to sell me anything here, they are just sharing their experiences. IF I talk to a dealer or Porsche shop, it's in their best interest to sugar coat certain things. I'm aware that some owners can be a bit biased as well. Hence...checking multiple sources and relying on my own experiences. So do you have some magic research method I'm unaware off? Also note I did not come here empty handed. I came with my initial summary based on my research thus far. So it should be extremely obvious that I'm not in fact just "Gathering the random opinions of people". Also, it would appear my research is so far effective because I dare you to challenge my list thus far as far as a solid starting point and summary of things to look at when buying the 996. Keep in mind, that a good PPI should cover all the basis and really not require any else from you but for you to make a decision. Can you tell me what else you need to look at beyond a solid PPI?

Most important tip I can give based on my own experience: Get a warranty that will replace your engine when it fails, and never let it expire. All Carrera engines have cylinders that grow more and more oval until the wall eventually cracks. I would have either gotten a warranty that includes the engine or selected a very low mileage car with upgraded IMS/RMS. Don't get me wrong, the 996 is a fantastic car to own and use... When the engine doesn't disintegrate itself. Also note that GT2/GT3/Turbos have a different construction and even with tuning is close to bulletproof.

"My tip: Learn how to fix it yourself. This makes a 996 and any other car, much more affordable." He actually makes sense for a change.

One constructive thing I would like to add to this based on your list is that I don't think the amount of previous owners should hold a lot of weight when it comes to Porsches. A lot of people use and buy Porsches as their secondary car or leisure ride and less for "basic" transportation. As such people often sell off their cars when they feel like it might feel like it's geting too impractical to keep it or often times,I find they just wanna try something else whether it's a different/newer Porsche or entirely new manufacturer. It's not like "basic" transportation where people get rid of it due to upkeep, reliability, repair issues as much. If the records are all there, I don't think there should be as much emphasis placed on the amount of owners. Another "opinion".

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No offense taken, however worthwhile to whom? As a buyer, I would find the list I have so far very useful as is. It's a lot of time doing searches and talking to people all compressed into one short list. I would very much find value in such list. Remember, just like you guys suggest I look at different sources, so should the buyer. I think you guys are treating this as a definitive complete guide of buying a 996. This is free information provided to buyers at my expense. It will be available for people to take what they want from it. It's not like I'm selling something or expecting dealers to use it or anything. Also, I think you are making this more complicated than it needs to be. What more than a PPI would a buyer need to do that is unique to this car? I doubt you can come up with anything that would be excluded from a good PPI(not all PPIs are equal). Considering my list goes over much more than just "Go have a PPI done and run with it", I think the list is solid and I don't think you disagree IF you look at this project for what it is. A basic buyer guide to get a buyer with no knowledge about the car started. I've informed them that car does have known issues and I pointed out the big ones AND I've advised a PPI to be done. Things like Carfax are not unique to this car. I'm focusing on 996 issues and I expect the viewer to get a good sense of what they are possibly greeting into so they can have a good starting point for their own research. Just like I have to consider credibility of advise here, so will they. They will be expected go out on their own and confirm the info. Without his guide you could spend a good time figuring out what to search for in Google and getting little pieces of info here and there and have to read through a lot of threads as the information is scattered and not formatted for your benefit. I'm compiling a lot of that stuff into one place. There are much more thorough guides available if a person wants that, however I disagree with some of what they say, which again is why ALL buyers would need to look around. I'm just giving them a jump start.

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I aggree with your point but it's just your opinion. I'm preparing a scientific document. Seriously the issue with multiple owners is just like "Was it driven hard". It's a Porsche, it's built to drive hard. A car driven fast may possibly last just as long as one that never get's close to redline if the hard driven car is well cared for. The issue is the lighly driven car caries less risk. A fast driver may be putting all kinds of stress on the car and wearing parts out OR not. So 1 owner could do more damage than 10 good owners, BUT the 10 owner is a higher risk. Does the seller know anything about owners 1-8? Very unlikely. So if you value knowing a little something about who the previous owners were like I do, you want less owners. Best case is a 1 owner car that bought the car and serviced it where you are buying it. The seller knows the owner. Was it some young hotblooded kid or an older family guy? Now that kid could take better care of the car for all you know but when you buy a used car you are taking a chance. You have to take leaps of faith and to do that you need information and to make judgments on that information, all the while realizing you could be guessing wrong.

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Nice tip and yes I got wind of the superior turbo engine. I need to make sure I mention that. For a person concerned about engine issues, the turbo is the way to go but they need to keep in mind the turbo needs to be treated differently. Cool down considerations for example.

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Oh boy, I don't really agree with your logic and just wondering why this post exists in the first place when all you had to do was search and find many of the other "How to buy a Porsche" posts on here. If you look in some of those posts,all of these factors would've been discussed to some degree. So not really sure why you're trying to rehash what was already said for your benefit. It seems like you aren't really doing research if you're expecting to be spoon fed. Just my $.02

Carlylespicks - This forum exists for owners and prospective owners to share information and enthusiasm. You seem to be here as part of some for-profit activity... not that there is any problem with that, but it does not fit the 'community' concept of this board. As a long-time participant here, I would not want the name 'Rennlist' associated in any manner with a half-baked resource created by someone we don't know, populated with information that you have decided is accurate. So perhaps you should explain who you are, what your qualifications are related to automotive maintenance and repair, and give us some examples of your work. Otherwise I would suggest that we all just stop responding to you.

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It's really frustrating when I spend my valuable time to help others and I get met with this kind tension. It's just bad that in a world where many people are only about themselves, people like myself who provide so much for people who many times don't take the time to say thanks that some people make the process even more difficult than it needs to be. I'm not going to waste time debating about his but I spend THOUSANDS of dollars of my OWN cash doing these kinds of projects for the benefit of strangers who may or may not appreciate it. The last thing I need is a response like yours. I think I asked some very simple questions and I spent a LOT of time doing my own research before I came here. I'm simply asking to make sure I'm being thorough.

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If spending days an hours of my own time and making phone calls and doing endless searches and spending a lot of time contemplating the information at hand is being "spoon fed" to you, then please send me your resume. Your work ethic must be legendary. Not sure why on some forums you can't have a quality discussion without people getting all suspicious and taking things down a completely different road than you intended.

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Fine. But you came to us, not vice versa. We gave you quality feedback and you kept asking questions and then got defensive when we asked a few of our own. Again, give us an example of what you do. Explain who you are, your background... writer, blogger, mechanic, what?

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You sir are big BS'er and a complete waste of time to responding to. If you spend hours of your own time on this forum specifically with the little thing called the "Search" button at the top, you would've received all the answers you were looking for. LOL, touche Edit: I'll help you out which should reduce your "hours and days" of researching down to a few pages on this model specifically. Look at that? First link on the page. www.lmgtfy.com

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If I were a buyer looking for a sports car who knew little to nothing of the 996 it might be an interesting greeting card. If I'd heard of the 996 and wanted to know the ins and outs of what to look for when buying one, I'd see it as fluff masquerading as content; information I could pick up anywhere if I Googled "known 996 issues." I think the answer to your question lies in what you want your video to be (something I acknowledge you detailed further down in your comment). No, buying a used Porsche isn't entirely unlike buying any used car. Separate and apart from the basic recommendations you might make regarding any used car purchase (check the service, accident and ownership history, etc), I believe a true 996 specific guide needs to do something more comprehensive. That's just my opinion. Is your list better than nothing? Sure, I'll give you that but if you're not going to be comprehensive, I'm not sure what value you're bringing to the market. You're just repeating what is already out there at a quick click of a button. If you're going for "Top Gear" level data then you're in it for entertainment. If you want to be a true buyer's guide that is recommended rather than reviled by the 996 community you better be comprensive. I would want to know the specific gotchas or issues to be aware of for a specific make, model or year. A smattering of questions I'd ask are... Is the 3.4l less reliable than the 3.6? What are the differences between the different models - C2, C4, C4S, Turbo, GT2, GT3, 40th Anniversary, etc. What's an X50 and why do I care? What are the major changes between the MkI and MkII versions of the 996 and why should I be aware of them (not all are cosmetic)? Is one model year more prone to problems than another? Should I expect maintenance costs to be high/low...comparable to my [______]? How long does the clutch typically last? How long before an engine/tranny rebuild? What should I know that might dissuade me from purchasing one (AOS, RMS, IMS, ABCDEFG, etc.)? The last question is probably the biggest and there are tons of great resources that detail the common problems. Just off the top of my head, have you checked out Porsche 996: The Essential Companion? How about Peter Zimmermann's book on the 911? By the way, he's also a Rennlist member. What about the Essential Buyer's Guide for the 996? For that matter, have you spoken to any of the big aftermarket vendors who specialize on 996es? Many are even on these boards. You're right, but if you're not going to do something comprehensive that doesn't stand out from the rest of the detritus on the Internet why do anything at all? First, a PPI won't answer most if any of the sample questions I threw out above. Second, you're answering some of your own questions. If not all PPIs are equal then depending on the quality of their PPI, there may be a lot that a buyer needs to know before taking the plunge. Are you telling people what they should expect from a good PPI vs. a bad one? Did you know that a Porsche dealer's PPI doesn't necessarily include lowering and inspecting the top on a Cabrio to make sure it works as intended? Some people insist that a leakdown test should be part of any good PPI while others say its unnecessary for a 996. What is your opinion - what are the bare minimums you should check and are they included in your PPI? That was a rhetorical question. A routine PPI isn't going to tell you if you have a bad IMS. Just ask the guy on this board whose '04 C4S cab's engine blew up on his drive home from the dealer. A PPI is a necessity but it won't disclose all of the car's ills. So, telling someone that they should be aware of IMS failure is misleading. As to your point about addressing known issues, I think a number of us pointed out that you missed some pretty basic ones for the 996. Aren't there already 1,001 jump starts online? As you said in your note, I guess it all comes down to what you want to deliver. If you're just looking to do a walk around to introduce someone to the 996's specs while pointing out some known issues then it sounds like you've got just that. I'm not sure what it provides in terms of value (at least to me, if I was a potential buyer) but it sounds like you've checked the boxes on what you want to deliver. Best of luck! -Eric

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Hold on...two more things I just thought of. Make sure they top off the halogen fluid in the headlights and rotate the air in the tires.

I like turtles...

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Ding ding ding - winner winner chicken dinner. Let's setup a donation for this for the op.

Carly, So your a charity buyers guide writer? I dont get it.

Not bad Carlyle: http://www.youtube.com/user/carlylespicks

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I'm a philanthropist and car enthusiast. I'm always looking for valuable information to share with others. Not everything is about money. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L9p96te_5k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77doNYjOCM8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Yzg-paXxIk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzSOY4vbaII

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I must say that production quality is quite good. I hope you can gain some good info from the forums, including the link I provided along with the recommended book(regardless of how rough and tough some of the responses have been).

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Thanks. I put a lot of hard work into it. It's not easy because of the elusive nature of the show. I won't work with a majority or companies/dealerships so I end up using my own inventory or just in general keeping things closer to home and staying away from the corporations. Ferrari for example was the biggest snob of all and I'm not into giving free promotion to companies I would not do business with. I got friends even with products I won't touch. It's kinda like the work I do at high schools. I take time off from my job to go to speak at school for free and although I get tremendous feedback, they make me work so hard to always find schools to speak at. You would think if they love the work I do as they say and the students say and considering I'm free, they would be contacting me. Now I will begin to charge a minimal fee just out of principal. I'm built to serve so I can't help that, but it's unfortunate that I give so much and get so little in return. Don't get me wrong. If I help even 1 child achieve his/her dreams it makes it all worth it, it's just a little bit disheartening the lack of support I get sometimes. Not always, but usually.

I want to take the time to say thanks for those who have helped so much. A LOT of good information here. Unfortunately the noise that the few have presented kind of hides some of that info but I think most people here were quite helpful. To those who think I'm defensive. Well you have to understand I'm different than you. If somebody came on a forum asking valid questions, I would not need to establish their credibility for me to help them. I could careless who they are and what they know. It could be a curious 5 year old. I'm glad to help and guess what, while we are talking we create more things for people to find in their searches. A real buyer may one day find this search and be very grateful to you all. Personally, if I needed to get all complicated with it, I'd just ignore the post rather than interrogate and accuse the poster of being lazy or trying to take advantage. My fault for letting the negative responses get to me. I just can't seem to learn!

The youtube videos are very well produced. I look forward to seeing what you have to say about the 996!

Sharp videos. Thanks for sharing. Good luck.

Just my two cents while my dinner is in the oven. I don't think I saw mention of the car wearing proper "N" spec tires - something you can do pre PPI. Doesn't mean it's a bad car but in my opinion it is sign of a previous owner deciding to save some money - so I would wonder what else did the PO do (or not do) to save money. As to number of owners - I learned that this is not an absolute, nor is a Carfax service history. Personal case in point. I purchased a 2004 C2 in 2007. One owner, purchased from a dealer with a CPO warranty - $23k miles - all books and records. Had it not been for the CPO warranty I would most likely be a very unhappy owner. Last year I purchased a 2004 C4S from a private seller cross country. Had a basic PPI performed at a Porsche dealer. Carfax showed 6 previous owners, 23K miles on the clock. At first the six owners was a red flag. Had my local dealer check for warranty repairs as their database does allow for warranty records but not service records from other dealers. No warranty work - which I liked. I tend to check warranty work and when I see repeat items, such as "check body electrical" every six months or so I tend to stay away from the car. I almost walked from the C4S - didn't like the number of owners, didn't like the low average annual mileage. But after seeking advice from Rennlist members and my local dealer, and a little more research that proved that some of the recorded ownership was from dealer taking title and from original owner relocating, I decided to take the risk and purchase the car sight unseen. Provided full payment via wire transfer using a Porsche dealer to act somewhat as the broker. On pins and needles until it arrived and came off the carrier. Car turned out to be as close to "as new" as I could have ever imagined. Had it delivered to my dealer, had another PPI done and felt better when my dealer reported that even the undercarriage looked as if it just came off the showroom floor. I knew I was taking a risk yet had I walked away I would have walked away from the "excellent" example I had searched over a year and a half for. So - there are no absolutes. Sometimes what looks like a sure bet is a loser (ever date anyone like that)? And sometimes what might scare someone else away provides a diamond ripe for the picking. Best of luck to you and your project.

FWIW, notice how the responses softened up AFTER you (well, actually Gonzo and then you) showed some of your previous work so we could get an idea what you were angling towards? Going forward, perhaps a brief introduction, explanation, and providing some of your previous works would help the community understand what you were trying to accomplish. Good luck, DS

Carlyle, If you are going to do a video on the 996 I think it's important to add other positive aspects of the car. Many of the things that have been discussed are issues to be aware of before buying, but these cars are around 10-14 years old. Any high performance car needs much more attention than a normal passenger car and thus at this time in their life cycle, this type of attention will be needed with any car of this nature. The 996 is an incredible value at this time. These cars are very fast and on a twisty road or track is where they really shine. When properly maintained these cars are very reliable and many are used a daily drivers. 996 owners are true enthusiasts. Many enjoy doing their own maintenance to varying degrees and it is an easy car to work on. A lot of owners also choose to use their cars on the track and do modifications for even better handling as well as looks. Many of us wanted a 911 since we were young and getting a 996 certainly fulfills the dream. -Randy

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I've read some buyers guides and I don't trust them. I remember reading one that did not mention the "Evils" just mostly spoke about the positives. I find there is somewhat of a vial of secrecy around Porsche and other cars. There is the Top Grins and then there is the cries of actual owners. I seek the potential cries so I can help prevent future pain for future buyers. I'm not looking to just say Porsche is heaven, people know that or THINK they do, I want to complete the picture but not as comprehensibly as people her would like. I cater to my audience who loves my stile and content so I know what I have works. The issue I think is that people here are too sophisticated for my show. They are not my audience. The guide I do would seem useless to them, but that is because they are not my audience. I LOVE Top Gear and I would love it even more if it went as far as I do. They don't get you the behind the scenes info I do. And for those who say I'm redundant. Think again: 1) I'm not commercial so I'm not competing with anybody but myself. Not selling anything. 2) What I deliver to my audience is a very unique, energetic and much more intimate delivery. They like myself, don't really want to read some boring Porsche guide. They want to sit back relax and enjoy an entertaining, to the point but still detailed enough presentation of a summary of the product with my personal judgement and integrity on top of it. They know I'm not in anybody's pocket and I have no loyalty to anybody but my audience. I will saw whatever I want about ANY product or brand. For example, I LOVE the Daytona 675 but I really don't like Triumph.

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I will, trust me, but I'm more interested in the "dark side". The stuff most don't know or aren't talking about. Lot of people watch Top Gear but I never heard them mention IMS or any of the other things. These cars can be driven daily and rack up miles with no issues with good maintenance and possibly some luck. I want to make sure however that buyers are aware of the unique lesser known risks with this model. It was suggested search "996 issues" but why would I do that if all I hear is how great they are? It's not a bad idea, but I'm considering a buyers who know NOTHING about the car except the media hype you hear all over. I was one of those folks. I thought Porsche was bulletproof based on what I was hearing. Now I know a Porsche model CAN be bulletproof, but some models have some serous potential issues if you are not careful as an owner and buyer. I know also that that older models seem to be much higher quality with resale values to match.

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I can certainly relate as I've had some similar experience but the book I listed is one of the better ones and has a good deal of great info as I'm sure most on here can agree to. If you're already on these forums however, you can get most of the same info here for the most part.

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One of the biggest issues is people over-reacting to internet hype and going over to the dark side. So keep it real and balanced. Judging by some of your other videos I think you will.

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Dunno, in his Facebook comments, he seems to be very critical of the 99s. And then I find it ironic that Wisky who's a car dealer thanked Carlyle in expressing interest in buying a 996 and now he has edited and deleted most of what was said. His videos are good as I admitted but the rest seems a bit shady to me.

Now this is funny - all the same guys that were taking the Mick are now all falling over themselves when they found out you're legit!! Some nice vids - especially the sportbike ones!!

The videos look great actually. I think you nailed it though -- someone looking for an "Essential Buyer's Guide" isn't your target audience. The videos do help a lot at putting your project in context. Best of luck (and continued success)! -Eric

Sorry I'm late! Seems like the party's over. I admire your enthusiasm and wish you the best! We get intruders here from time to time and many have "pie in the sky" ideas. A lot of information is exchanged, excitement generated all for naught. They leave unannounced as quickly as they came never to be heard from again. I see you walk the walk! Good for you.

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I appreciate that and understand about the "intruders", however some people including administrators take things too far sometimes. I see so much abuse on forums go unchecked. Obscene language, fighting, hate and other abuse and admins do nothing, then I get harassed for posting a video or something. Then you have members who act like *****. Forums are such a great thing for us all but unfortunately most forums can run wild really quick while admins do nothing. I can bring a lot of value to a forum like this if given the chance, but I'm an extremely private person and if this forum can't respect that, then I'll just have to go somewhere else. I wish everyone would just relax, enjoy their cars and the conversations we have here. If you don't like a thread, then leave. Why waste people's time? For those who are afraid because they have been "burned" before. So what? Get over it. I'm just as much at risk for trolls and other juveniles. Why is it I could careless while other seem bent out of shape about it. It's not that serious folks. It's not like trolls are keying your cars or flatting your tires. People troll, ignore them and move on, don't get hyper paranoid and attack a person like me just asking for help and trying to maintain my privacy at the same time. nick49, I'm not talking about you btw.

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Unbelievable. I see you haven't really learned anything. You have ABSOLUTELY no excuse on starting a thread like this if you've been on these forums since the beginning of 2010. You say you want extreme privacy yet you advertise your video site with a link, you also mention you are a philanthropist, AND you even sign your name in your earlier posts. For someone that wants privacy, your excuse sounds like BS, Carl Gordon. https://rennlist.com/forums/8011821-post20.html I really wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt but so far, you've just seem more and more shady, the more you talk. I think you should stop with the nonsense already.

Are you effing kidding me?!? "Why Waste People's Time?" Why create an entirely bogus thread, under yet another screen-name.."Speo" and purport that your "PPI Superstar" failed 30 minutes after you got it? Only to have the Admin's realize you are also the same user as "CarlylesPicks." I'm quite certain whatever it is you are offering/selling/distributing, we don't need... Go sell crazy somewhere else, we're all full here. https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...s-dead-10.html

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The assumption being made by the **** admin of course is that only 1 person can use the same computer. Naturally. I'm not the only car lover in my family and I'm not the only one who logs onto my computer. I also know that some of you are not even using your own accounts. You log in as a family member or friend for whatever reason. To simply make an assumption about who an account belongs to based on a matching IP is really over the top silly. Especially when all I did was ask a question. I'm not selling anything. I'm not posting spam. I'm not insulting others. I'm not posting wrong information. I'm not posting a bunch of junk just to get my post count up(just the opposite in fact). All I did was ask a question. A legitimate question. Even if I have nothing to do with Carlylespicks(I could just be somebody using that name), it would not matter. Even if I was 5 years old and just having a bit of fun, it would not matter. All I did was as a question and that should not warrant attempts to invade my privacy and personal attacks. And to the administrators. Where are you now? I posted a video on another forum and got an admin in my face about posting my videos meanwhile personal attacks are going on unchecked. Racism. Obscenities. All unchecked. However, I'm the devil somehow. Hey Inviius? What is YOUR real name? Where do you live? What do you do? What qualifies you to post on this thread? Do you even have a Porsche? Can you prove your picture is real? Does any of this matter? Nope. I'm done with this nonsense. You guys want to act like children and give me a hard time and make false accusations about my intent? Go right ahead. Either I will close my account or the Admin will do it for me(I'm expecting that and it's all good). I spend WAY too much of my time helping others to have to put up with this nonsense when there are tons of people I'm sure on this forum who do nothing but try to make others lives miserable, yet I'm the one that get's attacked and again, where are the admins? When you let a forum run out of control like this, you scare away good people and end up with nothing but trouble makers. I've seen it happen. Then your page hits drop and so does your ad revenue. I think your time is better spend keeping the miserable folks in check than worrying about who is logging into my personal computer. Even IF the folks who attacked me were right about their concerns. Personal attacks should NEVER be tolerated and violations of privacy should be treated even more seriously. This is the internet. Information posted here is available for the world to see. Privacy should be paramount here if you cared about your users. I've seen on other forums where admins will remove posts that violate privacy of others. Here it seems to be encouraged. I got a lot of great information and assistance from many of the better users here, but man it sure does not seem worth it anymore. Worst part of it all, is the project is for the benefit of OTHERS! I will still press forward with my project and it will get done and thousands all over the world will benefit from my hard work yet again, but I think it's time I find a little more mature of a forum to use. No offense to those who were actually helpful in my "bogus thread"(so says bogus Rennlist users with their sneaky fake names). Well, I'd like to say it's been fun but it hits me to the core to know that fellow car enthusiasts would behave this way. Then again, I've always said all I love are the cars. The dealers, manufactures, insurance companies and now even other enthusiasts are yet another story. IT's like in one video the license plate was not covered enough and every once in a while a person(probably Rennlist users) would post a comment with the full license plate number. So just in case somebody missed it, they posted it up. I was trying to protect the driver's privacy and messed up and now people like you swoop in like vultures. Really sad state of affairs . Good luck to you all. Have fun with your next target. SMH

OMG!! It's ALIVE!!!!, It's ALIVE!!!!!!!!!

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Before anybody else posts another hateful post, perhaps it is good you know more about who you are attacking. This is me. Spoken to THOUSANDS of kids in various states at my OWN ex pence and to no benefit of my own(just like this 996 project). I even volunteered with the local fire department. All while working a demanding corporate job and producing these kinds of videos all the benefit of perfect strangers who mostly will not even say thanks. http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto..._4793630_n.jpg http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto..._7198118_n.jpg http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto..._5636100_n.jpg http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto..._4699967_n.jpg People like to spend time digging into the lives of others, well there you have it. I saved you some time and provided you with the most important detail about me. I REALLY loves cars, but much more than that, I love helping others...even when they don't appreciate it or perhaps deserve it.

enough.

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Thank you Sir. Carlylespicks, or whatever your name is, it looks like you have been voted off the island.. Great work and kudos to you. Too bad that money and free time can't buy class and respect. Best, John