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YOUR RESEARCHMY new PPI superstar 2003 996 C2 lasted 30 minutes. Now it's dead. :(
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Wanted to make it easy for others with same issues following this thread to know the resolution, so yes it was the alternator.
MY new PPI superstar 2003 996 C2 lasted 30 minutes. Now it's dead. :(
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I just went about my business, then, after fueling up, checked the air in all 4 tires.
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Check air in those tires the day
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I had actually checked the air in those tires the day before.
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During that month I went back a couple of times and they replaced all the defects that I found (all minor +- 500$) .
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legitimate (carlyle seems like a nice guy
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Then people started comparing his post to a recent thread started by 'Carlyle,' whose posts seemed at first to be trolling but then turned out to be legitimate (Carlyle seems like a nice guy with a serious car addiction).
MY new PPI superstar 2003 996 C2 lasted 30 minutes. Now it's dead. :(
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You just got off to a rough start, get it fixed and get on with enjoying the car.
Had heard bad thing about german cars but fell in love with Porsche and they supposed to be one of the most reliable german cars. Did the research and found the Porsche cars have thier problems Some pretty serious too. However research shown me cars with 100,000 miles and that the PPI was your friend.
Got a 996 recently which passed the PPI with flying colors. Car looks great and I did my OWN inspection top to bottom. Looked great just tires where clearly not changed together.
Drive drove GREAT! What power and smooth shifting! Had dreams of warmer weather and some REAL driving conditions in the future. Anyway, my first drive lasted me about 30 minutes before the errors started.:
! PSM Failure/ABS failure.
Voltage spiked to 16v for a while. Later dropped to 12v and slowly fell.
Replaced battery. Voltage just barely above 12 with engine running. No effect with revs.
Heater cut in and out and radio. I turned all that stuff off. 40 minutes later battery at 10v and engine dies. Had to put it on the flatbed.
Charging battery now. Picked up jump start kit.
Is this how its gonna be with these cars?? Car is near the 55,000 mark.
sorry about your woes
may I ask who did the PPI? private party sale or dealer?
P.S.
Is this how its gonna be with these cars??
NO, since there are hundreds (probably thousands) of owners who have not had your misfortune but sadly, YMMV
Sorry to hear of your misfortune. Keep in mind that your car, whatever the miles, is now ten years old.
It sounds as though you had an alternator fail. They do fail after a period of time, not necessarily because of miles. It is also possible that the wiring for your alternator has deteriorated, which can happen for a variety of reasons. A reputable indy can easily diagnose the problem and recommend a remedy.
Keep the faith- these are fantastic cars but nevertheless have problems just like any other on occasion.
Best,
TomF
I hear you but a day after an extensive PPI? If I have put on like at least 500 miles with no trouble and this happened, OK...MAYBE. 30 minutes into first drive?? I have never had a new car and I've never had this kind of issues on anything but a 12+ year old dual sport bike which was not the showroom star the C2 is(apeared to be). The bike had carbeurator issues and electrical(probably caused by my work since I learned how to do repair on it). Most issues I had would have shown up on a PPI.
I know a PPI is not perfect, but this is rediculaous. How does the dealer drive the car for 2 hours to shop and an hour to PPI and has no issues, then I go less than 30 minutes and it's dead?
And again, problems on occasion is 1 thing, but this is not on occassion. This is technically every time I've driven it, since I only had it one day.
I'm trying not to let my frustration cloud my beter judgement but I think my concerns are valid. This does NOT look good.
A limping car is better than a 100% dead one. Case in point. Tow truck was unable to leave car in a good spot. Only way to move it to safety now if if I can get it to run.
Also, I just paid for this battery. Leaving it completly dead is not good I'm sure. And if I try to move car to a local shop and it dies again, I need to be able to jump it. Alhough I realize that could have limited benifit with weak battery that is not charging.
Just bad timing. Unless you pull the alternator and test it under load, there is no real way to know it is failing electrically. Relatively cheap and easy fix, for these Porsches. Buying the car is not expensive at this age. Owning it is.
That's not dead! It just needs a little repair work. You'll be fine. I was imagining a big puddle of oil under the car when I read the title of your post...
Thats is what the optimist in me thinks. Research shows potentially a cheap fix. Regulator swap. Even if alternator, it supposed to be easy DIY replacement so still cheaper than having shop do it and not sticker shock,
THERE IS OIL LEAKING TOO!! When did this happen? This is insane?
Yeah...the silver lining is that I'M perhaps being broken in...EASY. Maybe this costs me $500 total. Get me used to my new money pit so when the $4000 bill comes, I can be in less shock!
I didnt read everything but read some:
you'll find that is more normal for me than not - then I will provide advice and opinions based on 1/2 truths
anyhow - a PPI can tell a lot and is worth the time to do, and rule out obvious issues but can never foretell the future of some parts - I mean a perfectly working part today can fail tomorrow without warning - if you stick around a while you will learn some nasty three letter acronyms that do just that --- and $4k would be a welcome repair cost by comparison
so relax - its a 10 year old car and something broke - fix it , move on - something will break again, and again, and again
but in reality these cars are very reliable and cost very little to keep going - yes, they pop up with the occasional repair bill and maintenance - and FFIW there is almost nothing cheap about a trip to the dealer so that is the value in a forum like this - you can learn to spend countless hours fretting and freezing azz cold with greasy hands on your garage floor to save huge amounts of money - I guess
hope the car treats you well from here
Oil leaking, or oil "sweating"? If there aren't spots on the floor, then it's a pretty minor leak. Many mechanics would call that sweating.
Welcome to Porsche ownership!
SPEO, your car looks beautiful. Show us more pictures please.
As for your issues, neither sound abnormal for any car with some age. Alternators/VR's wear out eventually. They are VERY easy to replace, as are almost ALL of the components of these cars (the 996 is very DIY friendly). Along the way, you will become intimately familiar with the workings of your beauty.
During the 7 years and 105,000 miles that I've driven my 996 as a daily driver, I've been VERY happy with the car's overall reliability. I've had to replace various wear items over time, and I've actually gone through the exact same scenario you describe with your car. Pain in the butt, but easily fixable.
Renntech is an excellent DIY website/resource that details most DIY tasks:
http://www.renntech.org/forums/forum...6-carrera-diy/
This website also has quite a few DIY writeups if you search around.
Oil leaks are not uncommon and do not mean certain major trouble. Oil can leak from the spark plug tubes as the O-rings age (easy to replace), for example.
Upload some pictures for us.
Sorry about your troubles. But it does sound like an alternator problem and this is a DIY item if you are a little bit mechanical. The oil leak is a bit scary but if it is not a puddle think positive clean it up and see where it is coming from could be very simple like a spark plug tube cracked or just a tube seal. Cheer up the car looks great but may have been just a tad neglected.
No spark plug tubes in the MII engine. But you're right, really depends on where the oil leak is coming from. I have a tiny slow sweat of oil from the 2 sensors bolted between the spark plugs n the drivers side. Once every months of so, I wipe it of with a paper towel. Normally, though, if everything is right, no leaks.
Alternator is an easy fix, I replaced my alternator about a month ago and it took about 20 minutes.
Here is a link that will help
Alternator repair/replacement
Thanks man! I have to say I'm glad to know we have such a great community behind our cars! We NEED that because from what I hear Porsche is not exacly on our side. They are too busy looking at the numbers. With such expensive cars to fix (potentially), it's critical to learn the cars and be self sufficient. I think it's people like you guys that make owning these cars not 100%, just maybe 50%! LOL
I'm only HALF mad!! Woohoo!
I will say this:
1) CAN'T wait to be up and running again, to enjoy the car on the rode more!! A Porsche passed me yesturday(recognized throttle blip first) and I felt almost like when a pretty woman I don't know smiles at me(wait..WHAT does THAT feel like again??).
2) One reason even if minor, why I got the 996 is modern cars are gong away from me. Even purist Lotus is giving in. Too much tech. I feel like I'm being shut out of that intimate experience of knowing and working on your cars. However...althought the car had a metal engine(unlike the modern day "plastic" egines)...it's CRAMPED in there!! Is it really DIY friendly? I feel like I won't be able to get at anything! lol
3) And finally, can't wait to drive her again!!! Did I say that before? That I can't wait to drive her again? Maybe I did say I can't wait to drive her again. OK. That is all.
Oh..took this photo this morning!
https://rennlist.com/forums/customav...ar28646_11.gif
OK, this can go two ways...possibly. It could be alternator or voltage rectifier. How can you tell which one? Remember:
-Voltage spike to 16V
-Then hovers just under 12V
-Then alarms go off
-Then voltage drops to about 11.5
-Then radio starts failing and heat(I cut all that off)
-Then it get's to 11V and the voltage drop accelerates rapidly
-Then engine power cuts in and out sporatically
-Then engine dies for good.
-Fully charged new 12.56V battery shows 11.5 shortly after starting engine and revving does nothing to affect voltage
-Temperature has no effect that I can see. 1st thing in morning next day, no errors seen yet, but voltage is ~11.8. Only lasted 10 minutes this time though. 7 minutes in, voltage was droping fast. No errors or sympton though. Strange. Then it his 10V for a bit...2 minutes later it was done. I think charging system was still somewhat funtional last time. This time it was next to dead which mean 100% load on battery.
sounds like a VR
so many people buy a new alternator and they are quite pricey - even a used/rebuilt one is a fair chunk of change and I am ....well...frugal!
I took mine to a rebuilder and tolf they guy to "spare no expense" "buy/use only the best parts you can get"
cost me less than $70 - that was 2 years ago
there is always another way to do things - for me it was worth a try and paid off so far
When the alternator in my 73 Charger failed it first spiked off the gauge and melted its wires. Then once the wires burnt nothing.
Maybe your alternator had some sort of internal short. I would go over the wires going to the alternator and make sure they are still in good condition.
Either you cant read or you are very dense.
#1. Why didnt you immediately call dealer if it did this 30 minutes after you drove away? Any reputable dealer would have helped. Now who knows?
Check with your dealer they should at least help with the expenses, stuff happens even a thorough PPI can't pick up everything. You just got off to a rough start, get it fixed and get on with enjoying the car.
I think you are pulling our plonkers. Now you see oil dripping under the engine? Come off it mate. You mean to say you only just noticed oil dripping after a PPI. Load of bollux. Take it back and kick some serious *** about this so called PPI. Don't forget to mention all the other crap you say is happening with it in the first half an hour of you driving it. I need to smash my head against a wall again. I can't believe what I am reading..
LOL. If you read the whole thread you will see I'm not the one who brought up oil leaks. Somebody else did and I made a bad joke about it. So bad you forgot to laugh!
I have NOT seen any oil coming out....YET!
I did'nt know the car came with all these great and helpful folks on this forum too!! Wow! I REALLY got a good deal then. I should have paid more.
Now that I've calmed down a bit...I'm now enjoying a little bit of the OTHER Porsche pleasures...just knowing it's there. Mine won't even run now but I get some kind of sick weird joy knowing it's sitting right down stairs under it's little blankie! All snuglled up for the night with it's little touch of the "flu". I wanna lift the front endge of the cover and whipe it's nose.
OK...THATG was just WEIRD!
Yea, that'll help with the cost for sure. However, if it comes down to YOU having to deal with it yourself, it's easy to pull out and then I'd do what Ivangene mentioned - find an alternator rebuilder and have him rebuild it. I did that with mine when it failed. It was stupid-cheap.
Crossed my mind that a sloppy PPI could create issues. Any time the car is touched, there is apotential to mess somthing up. It's like humans and sergury. Go in for root canal, come out with serious infection.
Could very well be the voltage regulator. The brushes can wear out @~60k. They did on my 2004 Mercedes which has the exact same alternator as my 2003 996.
From another site (can't remember where):
"These sites reference the different part numbers and various companies offer a replacement part for the Bosch part. These companies usually only have one part number and list ALL the Bosch numbers as equivalents. Here are a few of several possible sources of information. I would like to suggest that you google the part numbers yourself to double check. I have satisfied myself but I cannot guarantee 100%. I can tell you that my car is behaving perfectly with the F 00M 145 350 part.
(Ref;
http://www.woodauto.com/Component.aspx?Ref=VRG46473
OR
http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforu.../t-187174.html
OR
http://www.jnelectric.com/bombridge....umber=F00M1453
50&manufacturer=Bosch&description=Regulator%2C+Ele ctronic )
Finding a voltage regulator
Through various sources I found and confirmed that the Bosch number for the regulator in the Porsche alternator is F-00M-145-225. It would appear that this part isn’t actually listed anywhere as a separate item, although I did manage to track one down on e-bay. All is not lost though, as the same part is available under different part numbers. Various websites cross reference the above part number with the regulator for various Volkswagens from the similar years as well as Audi’s and Mercedes. For reference a commonly available part seems to be the F-00M-145-350 or F-00M-145-341 for VW, Audi, and Mercedes which fit perfectly.
These sites reference the different part numbers and various companies offer a replacement part for the Bosch part. These companies usually only have one part number and list ALL the Bosch numbers as equivalents. Here are a few of several possible sources of information. I would like to suggest that you google the part numbers yourself to double check. I have satisfied myself but I cannot guarantee 100%. I can tell you that my car is behaving perfectly with the F 00M 145 350 part.
(Ref;
http://www.woodauto.com/Component.aspx?Ref=VRG46473
OR
http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforu.../t-187174.html
OR
http://www.jnelectric.com/bombridge....umber=F00M1453
50&manufacturer=Bosch&description=Regulator%2C+Ele ctronic )
I suspect that the different vehicle manufacturers insist that Bosch supply parts with a unique part number or that Bosch manufacture identical parts in different locations and assign part numbers to each. If anyone can give me an informed answer to this or if they can tell me if there really is any difference between them I would LOVE to know!
Here are a couple of Bosch Regulators
Each one in turn, first the 225
The 350 (Also the Mercedes A003 154 53 06)"
My alternator failed after a year of ownership of my 2000 996. No warning.
Sticker shock at the dealership. Don't go there for alternator replacement!
$400 for an interstate battery, $500 for Porsche battery.
$2300 for dealer alternator. Go for a rebuilt Bosch for way less at an indy.
I learned my lesson, passing it on to you. Good luck. When it is repaired, you
will have a super car to drive and enjoy. These are great cars, but not cheep
to own and maintain
That was my point. If it failed 30 minutes after purchase, I would have driven right back to dealer and asked for assistance. Im sure they would have helped. Now, who knows because this guy has screwed around, waited, asked for 50 opinions, etc. Why he would complicate this , I have no idea. Maybe you guys were right and he is just BS'ing us about this nonsense and the $4000 repair bill? I mean wtf?????
WHAT?! I bought a Porsche battery last year for my C4S Cab and recall paying well under $200 from a dealer. How much under I can't remember but I've seen them from about $150 - $200. Who is ripping you off?! If you paid $400 for an (regular OE replacement) Interstate battery you were scammed. Aftermarket batteries typically range from just under $100 - $150 depending on brand, size and where you get it.
-Eric
He wrote:
So yes, he purchased it at a dealer - or so he says.
And weird - if he did purchase at a dealer, he should have had it towed back to the dealer to take care of it this all happened within "30 mins"
And...then of course - the photo of his avatar - it's a 996 GT2.
fishy story if you ask me.
Well, lets see. If he bought it from a Porsche dealer, and it quit 30 min. later
, I'd say the dealer ought to stand behind the Porsche they sold. What seems out of the ordinary about that? Dealers responsibility...not fault.
I don't know how it is in the USA but up here in Canada where I bought my 55K miles 2004 C4S at a P dealership I had a 2500Km/1 month warranty. During that month I went back a couple of times and they replaced all the defects that I found (all minor +- 500$) .
I'm not sure how long ago this happened. The timing seems unclear. Did you have the problem on your way home or the next day? If the next day, how far do you live from your dealer?
Even if the dealer was closed I would have suggested that you have the car towed right back to them (assuming it wasn't 300 miles away). You could have then addressed the problem with them when they re-opened. You could have also called the PPI place to advise them of the issues and ask them about it. I'm not sure why you changed out the battery and started contemplating other fixes instead of just having it towed.
Also, while I don't agree with some of the more aggressive comments in this thread (coughing "Hurdi"), you haven't answered a basic reasonable question that might help us understand what you've done. Did you ever call the dealer or the PPI shop? If so, have you heard anything back from them? If so, what did they say? If you haven't called them then why the heck not?!
Some people are throwing out 30 day warranty terms like they know where you live. Unless Porsche (or your dealer) offers a warranty of some sort on its non-CPO cars (which I'm assuming your car is) you're stuck with whatever the law protects. It might be interesting to take a look at the laws in your state but, unless I missed a comment in an earlier post (which is possible), I don't think you ever provided this information.
I have a Saab in my avatar. I own a Porsche. Cut the guy some slack, geez. He posted a picture of his C2 earlier in the thread. It's about the size of a postage stamp but it still appears to be a C2...or a C2 postage stamp.
-Eric
Good point I assumed he was in the states. Just wanted to point that whatever the law is where he is a P dealership won't lose its rep after a 30 min sale. Didnt want to be a smart a@@.
Yes, I didn't see that post. It happens. Take it easy.
Why do people want to go back to the seller, in this case a dealer, and expect for them to fix this issue. If the alternator was fine during the sale and PPI then it's just bad timing and the owner should replace it at their cost.
$500 is getting off cheap. Theres also battery and alternator connections that can cause these errors. The warning light can be low voltages or worn tires and especially mismatched tires. There are tires sizes advised by porsche for thos management systems like the PSM. The system receiving different than standard rotation info (mismatched tires) thows errors.
I'm not going to say anything about possibly being a flooded vehicle. Try getting the tires sorted right nice and new. Then go after electrical checking alternator connections, battery to include cable's patched together on the bottom of the vehicle. Yep the big cable isn't solid all the way to the rear. Include checking A/C collant level and for leaks. When the pressure is low the system cuts off. Even with heat on the A/C engages and you can turn off the a/c by pressing the snow flake or watever it is with your model. That way you'll only be running the heater with no a/c to be shutting on and off due to low levels. It's not a pretty sight when the compressor melts all the plastic parts due to low level and dumps that plastic into the engine compartment.
My thoughts precisely + Hurdi - he can be decent when he is asking for help as an accomplished DIY guy, otherwise the rudeness is simply uncalled for. And this guy shoehorns an oversize battery in his car and suddenly he is an expert on all things related to Porsche.
Oh well - this is what makes the world go round. I am in a mood myself - just got back from fueling the cars and some jerk in a crashed up beater bitches me out for not pulling further front at the pumps - I started to politely explain where the fuel fill is in relation to the pump but the jerk kept his mouth running so it didn't end on a pleasant note. I did demonstrate restraint however....... as I am sort of doing now.
Same thing happened to me Thanksgiving Day morning. Got horn blasted by a guy who couldn't get his F250 up to the pump. I just went about my business, then, after fueling up, checked the air in all 4 tires. By tire number 2 he was off to another pump.
I had actually checked the air in those tires the day before.
No legit dealer would want a customers car to self destruct 30 minutes after the sale. Any normal customer would have contacted the dealer immediately.
My dealer even repaired several things on my PPI at THEIR cost before they would let me take the car even when I told them the problems were not serious and not deal breakers.
Something is very odd about this whole deal and we still have not heard from the OP about, WHAT DID THE DEALER SAY? question.
I suspect this whole thread was BS or posted on behalf of a "guy I know", or "I heard this Porsche story". We also have the wrong avatar pic and the goofy postage size "new car pic". Even a cell phone takes better photos than that.
He could just prove us all wrong by posting "dealer name", and "PPI" shop name. Its not libel if its true.
I have no problem posting either from my deal if anyone asked about my purchase experience. Not trying to be hard on the guy but you guys have to be thinking the same thing.
This whole thread(and the OP) is complete BS.
When you click on the link in the OPs post that I quoted above it is a pic of 450knotOffice's car...something does not add up here.
My guess is that speo will post any minute now that his IM$ blew...and a new infomercial will begin...
Look at the writing style even down to the misspellings between speo and carlylespicks user. Add the timeline and coincidence of this new user and the events that occured. If you look at carlylespick's facebook page, there is a lot of coincidence going on.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Carlyl...77951058887498
Before things get edited, here are a couple quick posts on his FB page.
Yesterday on FB
Nov 29th
Edit:
I found alternator issue that matches timeline of this post.
You guys decide...
Like I've said in carlylespicks post that he started, something seems shady and isn't right here. Why not just be forthcoming?
Hah, I knew this guy was a flake, though I did think he sounded more like the lambo door guy who also quickly vanished (he was the 18 year Porsche mechanic who owned 10 Porsches).
I have no ill will to the guy but really wished he just was forthcoming from the start. Why not just state that you make videos but also interested in not only making video on Porsches as his next project BUT ALSO interested in buying one for himself. That's all he had to say. I just felt there was way too many smoke and mirrors with his posts.
The sad thing is that many of our members took their time to research his "alternator issue". Some people have no respect for others. Makes you wonder if it will become necessary for someone to verify themselves before they can post here. Shame.
Good advice thanks!! I get the impression that rebuilding alternators is a dying art or something. I like the idea though. Rebuild it so it can be top spec (you choose best parts). Not to mention SAVE money!!
Another bad joke. LEssoned learned. Not all have a sense of humor. My logic: if you reply to a guy wanting to see your car with HIS OWN AVATAR....CLEARLY you are joking or a retard. I made ZERO atempt for it to believable that it was my car. Why you think that was? Anyway, lesson learned.
No more jokes for grumpy folks.
What is more sad is a simple request for information turned into some kind of personal attack.
People, remember, all info on this forum is avaiable to all. This means, even if you think you are helping a troll or something, that does not matter. Somebody else can benifit. I've learned a lot from searching and running into threads like this.
Personally, I could care less who the person is that I'm helping online. Could be a 5 year old for all I care. As long as they are respectful, its' all good. I don't feel like people have to earn the right for me to help them. What happens whan I need help? I help when I can, where I can and to whomever I can help. Many times I feel like I waste my time with people, but on a forum it does not matter.
Life is too short gentlmen! Happy Holidays!
Read this entire thread very quickly...and maybe did not catch the joke...but no, I do not think I'm a retard. But, of course, I have been wrong before.
Even if the bogus pic link was your lame attempt at a joke it still does not explain the many other things that do not add up here, or were they all jokes too?
Personally I'm too busy to bother reading and replying to a "BS thread". Why is it that you find the time to do it though? What is YOUR agenda?
Also, do you REALLY think I could fool 450KnotOffice with a picture of his OWN car??? Really? HE took the photo. You think he'd notice right? You did realize I plied to HIS request for a photo with HIS photo right?
SMH. Why are some folks so dificult. Happy holidays I guess. More like Bah humbug. wow.
I did not call YOU a retard. Wow. When a person is on a negative tangent, all they see is negative. I said that I would ahve to be a retard not you. Is it not retarded to try and pass of another guy's car as yours to the guy who owns it and who took photo? My point is, only 2 logic reason for me to do that:
I'M retarded
I'm joking
You decide!
Thank you for the wonderful drama that you've provided here thus far. Ivangene can only provide so much entertainment himself.
Hope you get your alternator issue sorted as I know how it feels to just get a car and not be able to drive it, especially a nice sports car.
Bottom line is you got some help and info on your issue and hope that it is one of the few issues you'll have to deal with allowing you more driving time then down time.
While I might not agree on how things were communicated or forthcoming, I can sense that you are an enthusiast and really hope you can get your car sorted and working 100% again.
WHY does it matter? OK, so things don't add up. Let's say. Truth is I'm a 13 year old kid with too much time on my hands. SO WHAT?!
-Are my questions not valid?
-Can they possibly help a real person who is up to your standards one day?
I say yes on both accounts so who I am is of no consequence.
Just some food for thought:
There is a reason you call yourself DreamCarrera. Right? I don't think that is your name. It just does not add up. Something is fishy about you. You maybe trying to hide something. Maybe. Just maybe, you would like to protect your privacy as do I and most others on this forum. Some of us have more to protect than others.
There are people who are very envious of us. You may take it for granted, but for a guy driving a honda civic struggling to pay bills while we drive around in our expensive toys, it's frustrating. Also you have people that judge you based on what you have. For some your Porshe is not enough, for others it's too much. Some of us choose for these reasons to keep private.
I buy my cars for no other reason than to enjoy them myself. Not to impress anybody and I don't want to be judged based on what I have or don't. Not a single member of my family knows about my car. When I purchase cars, I tell nobody about it. It's not anybody's business. There are also securty concerns to be considered as well.
While I sat in my broken down car, you know how many people came by and made snide remarks? One guy walked buy and shouted "You don't deserve a Porsche!". I don't need that kind of drama in my life. Too many people hate you for your success.
So before you join in with these folks and judge me, remember we are owners of Supercars that hundreds of thousands can only dream about. This is not a Civic forum (nice car BTW. Efficient and relaible but no Porsche).
HAHA
How many times can you requote the same posts that I have made?
As far as my identity goes, it has been announced many times on here over the many years that I have been here. Furthermore, I have never posted here(and elsewhere) trying to deceive people about my identity.
I wish you luck in sorting your car out...I'm out.
I am worthy!! Well...until the next guy posts some link to a facebook page of some 18 year old pimple face kid! LOL
And yes, I'm an enthusiast! NO WAY I'd buy a Porsche otherwise. Especially an old one. The amount of risk associated with such a purchase is mind bogling but I get it and I took the leap anyway. It's because I'm sick. Nothing about my auto obsession makes sense. It alows me to do things I would never do otherwise. My coworkers call me a cheapskate....if they only knew!!
Not my first forum war and won't be my last I'm sure, but the WORST was Maserati forum folks for sure. WOW!! THOSE are an angry and suspicious bunch!
Nice thing here is there are simple SO many great and helpful folks that really know thier stuff. They kind of drown out the negative ones.
Funny how many are woried about trolls. Never been an issue for me. My only concerns are for those who are paranoid about trolls. Those are the one I butt heads with. Trolls are'nt even on my radar.
BTW, if Alpine003 does not leave me alone, I'm going to take his avatar and pass it off as my own...to HIM! That will show him!!
KrazyK, you so craaaazy! LOL
I told you already they were closed. It's confirmed the alternator is dead. Either I fix it or they do. I don't really care either way since it's not too expensive and an easy fix AND one less thing to worry about. Fixing this now, means I'm basically getting a 2013 Porsche...well...as far as the alternator is concerned. The rest of it is 10 years old!
Lot of noise in this thread now. Wanted to make it easy for others with same issues following this thread to know the resolution, so yes it was the alternator.
NOTES:
-Reputable dealer will probably take care of you within a short window After sale.
-Voltage regulator is a good guess, but it might be the alternator
-Look out for voltage spikes when you first have issues with power
-Note the voltage going down instead off up when car is started. Alternator should normally INCREASE voltage when engine running.
-Don't use bad jokes when you post on here for help or KrazyK and Alpine003 will get you GOOD!! lol
-LOTS of great folks on Rennlist, but do your homework also. Search for threads like this before posting.
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When you're not very forthcoming with all the pertinent info in the beginning, a post that could've been answered in a couple post can extend into pages and often get off into tangents because of it. I'm just doing my due diligence to contribute to the clutter.
WTF is this thread you ask? You could either waste 30 minutes of your life reading this entirely worthless thread or you could watch this 2 minute video and destroy the same amount of your brain cells. The choice is entirely up to you and you will go away with the same information and conclusion about the original poster.
http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HMKLA2MWok
I'm confused?
Does the OP own a 996?
Did his alternator fail?
Why did he post a photo of 450knot's car?
This is weird. Will watcing the vids help?
-head scratch-
Oh dear! That unicorn video didn't clear things up at all !
edit
OIC now. I was looking at this thread on my mobile and had a hard time following it. Now I'm on the computer it makes a little more sense..but not really.
Is this Carlyle guy like a pro-troll?
Is that a thing?
Why would he come up with a weird troll story like that?
Did you fix your alternator ?
Is the man not clear on what a technical forum is?
So many questions. I guess the unicorn dolphin/video really does sum it up!
Now I am completely confused. For those unwilling or unable to read through the first seven pages of this mess, here is a recap:
1. The OP, 'Speo,' told of his new purchase, his self PPI, and asked questions about a possible electrical/alternator problem.
2. The OP got a lot of encouraging and helpful suggestions, including being urged to return to the dealer.
3. The OP then added a bunch of confusing and non topic-related comments. He also did not follow up with any further information about the original problem and its outcome.
4. When Rennlisters started asking questions, the OP got defensive and strangely childish.
5. Then people started comparing his post to a recent thread started by 'Carlyle,' whose posts seemed at first to be trolling but then turned out to be legitimate (Carlyle seems like a nice guy with a serious car addiction).
6. Something about unicorns...
7. My head exploded.
If it's on the internet, it must be true, and the people must be real.
I am sure that no one would ever hi-jack someone else's work and find ways to drive people to go take a look. Amazing how long this thread has lived on.
Some guy named SPEO wrote this yesturday:
" LATEST UPDATE: Alternator DEAD
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lot of noise in this thread now. Wanted to make it easy for others with same issues following this thread to know the resolution, so yes it was the alternator.
NOTES:
-Reputable dealer will probably take care of you within a short window After sale.
-Voltage regulator is a good guess, but it might be the alternator
-Look out for voltage spikes when you first have issues with power
-Note the voltage going down instead off up when car is started. Alternator should normally INCREASE voltage when engine running.
-Don't use bad jokes when you post on here for help or KrazyK and Alpine003 will get you GOOD!! lol
-LOTS of great folks on Rennlist, but do your homework also. Search for threads like this before posting. "
He even changed the subject so you could clearly see that the post was the latest update "LATEST UPDATE: Alternator DEAD ".
Guess nobody saw it. Too busy being negative and fussing about nothing. It's a shame that the bad few are so loud that they drown out the good many like all those who reached out to help a perfect stranger and could careless who he is and what his "agenda" might be. Must be more post 9-11 Paranoia translated to the internet now. What a suspicious world we live in. You need a national ID card just to ask a question online. SAD state of affairs.
Some guy named SPEO wrote this yesturday:
" LATEST UPDATE: Alternator DEAD
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lot of noise in this thread now. Wanted to make it easy for others with same issues following this thread to know the resolution, so yes it was the alternator.
NOTES:
-Reputable dealer will probably take care of you within a short window After sale.
-Voltage regulator is a good guess, but it might be the alternator
-Look out for voltage spikes when you first have issues with power
-Note the voltage going down instead off up when car is started. Alternator should normally INCREASE voltage when engine running.
-Don't use bad jokes when you post on here for help or KrazyK and Alpine003 will get you GOOD!! lol
-LOTS of great folks on Rennlist, but do your homework also. Search for threads like this before posting. "
He even changed the subject so you could clearly see that the post was the latest update "LATEST UPDATE: Alternator DEAD ".
Guess nobody saw it. Too busy being negative and fussing about nothing. It's a shame that the bad few are so loud that they drown out the good many like all those who reached out to help a perfect stranger and could careless who he is and what his "agenda" might be. Must be more post 9-11 Paranoia translated to the internet now. What a suspicious world we live in. You need a national ID card just to ask a question online. SAD state of affairs.
See, I told you the video made more sense than him. Now its some kind of anti-American national ID card reference post. We need to call in the CIA to check this guy out. I bet he doesnt even like turtles.
blah blah blah, in fact there is so much blah that no one in the future searching for how to diagnose an alternator failure will even be able to make sense or want to sift through 9+ pages to get some kind of answer. OP is really helping future newbs on this one. I love how OP is trying to spin it into helping others in the future. LOL
Things you've stated on the alternator diagnosis has all been documented here several times and doing a simple search would've yielded your answers right off the bat without all the drama.
Mods please feel free to close this as it doesn't add any more nutritional value(actually it should've been closed long time ago).
I had a crush on a girl in elementary school. She was really pretty. I ran into her as an adult. I went to her place one time and she showed me her 5 turtles. They died later. Sad story. Not sure if that is what you are talking about.
Since "user" speo is actually carlylespicks, he is banned for having a double identity. I hope carlyle will PM me and explain why else he will be banned as well.
Regards,
To any future rennlister stumbling upon this thread in search of alternator failure issues - THIS ISN'T THE THREAD YOU'RE LOOKING FOR................
You Tube
BUT, if you're searching for Unicorns and Dolphins - THIS IS IT
+996. It's really ashame that it turned out the way it did and I certainly contributed my fair share to the mess and drama I admit. I'm glad though that Bob stepped in and I hope we can close this book. After all, we just about covered everything, especially when you have to get unicorns and turtles involved.
To be fair I really do hope Carlyle will be back under his original name asking for advice or help(after he's done a basic search
) because after all he's not only an enthusiast but a 996 owner now and I'd like to remind myself and others that this forum is about helping out other enthusiast regardless how quirky they might seem to some of us. As long as they don't have any malicious intent, they are still ok in my books.
I do believe though he did get the help he needed eventually albeit with a bit of unnecessary drama thrown in there. And I hope if he does come back, he can take this experience to further improve and 'tailor' his questions as to avoid the clutter and unnecessary drama in the future.
Personally I find his video production to be very good and it would be great if he did a whole video segment on the 996 specifically(not necessarily a buyers guide but more of an info intro to 996 for people that dont know about it yet). I feel it would be worthy and justified to have a specific video for it. I'm sure a lot of us would be willing to give him all the info he needs to make a great video.
Thats all just great but why in the heck would anyone feel the need to lie and be deceptive about who they are and what their intent is on a 996 tech forum? Makes zero sense to me.
He would have been much better off to be honest from the FIRST post! His rep is pretty much shot without some type of explanation for this nonsense. We still have not seen any real pics posted of this alleged 996 he (whoever that is) owns.
The videos are fairly high quality productions but the ones I have seen seem to cover "very" basic information for the common consumer, not really for the seasoned enthusiast. That is most likely his target audience.
We have a sofa for sale on craigslist and I swear there is a class of people that just like attention or have a need to call/email and ask inane questions in order to experience some level of human contact or something. very strange. very sad.
