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YOUR RESEARCH2003 996 34.5K miles worth 44900??
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Remember too, that many folks replace the clutch when they do an RMS because it is not very much more money.
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Actually, the Cinnamon would be a nice change of pace.
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This scares me, but I am going to go test drive it sometime.
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Yay Porsche.....gonna go test drive one ill tell you how it goes.
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Is this car worth it? I think its a little pricey but maybe because its a 2003 model. What do you think? I am thinking about buying it.
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...eadExists=true
Yea the interior is just OK, not my pick of colors but its not puke green or anything. Yea the new clutch at 30K miles threw me off too, did this guy stall like 45000 times and just burn clutch or what? Atleast its still under warranty.
I guess quite a few 911s, M3s, and other sports cars are bought by people without much experience of driving a stick. And with 300+ hp to play with, it's not hard for a novice to wreck the clutch!
Sounds like a good deal to me, new clutch and all. The interior might hurt you at resale, though.
Mine had 47,000 on it when I bought it. RMS was weeping a bit, so I just went in and replaced it as a precaution. Guess what: the clutch had 5% left in it.
Not everybody can drive, especially in a congested city where it takes some finesse to creep a Porsche along in traffic at single digit speeds.
To each his own... but IMO wood is just wrong in any 911 produced after the late 60's. Regarding price I would say it is about right. Not too high, but not a steal either. You could probably negotiate the price down a bit.
Interior is just down right nasty. Having said that, the price seems VERY low...I was looking at a speed yellow '03 with 9,700 miles, CPO, for $52K...that was low because of color, IMHO
Tan? Silver goes with black, or grey. Maybe Burgundy. But not Tan. That cinnamon color isn't that bad. But it is strange. New brakes, tires, and clutch are more important though. As long as you can live with the wood bits!
actually i think the wood makes it look better and classy, maybe just my opinion. The clutch may be considered good OR bad, it means this guy is not an enthusiast and doesnt know how to drive stick let alone know how a P-car needs to be driven. This scares me, but I am going to go test drive it sometime.
Porsche prices are falling across the board. Saw an 02 996 Turbo for $55-57K last week on Ebay with less than 40K miles and BBS Mesh wheels. If that car's PPI checks out I would jump on it. Looks mint with nice Carrera Wheels. See if you can get an extended warranty (warrantydirect.com) since you will saving some money up front.
as for the colors, don't worry about the wood. You can remove those and get some cash for them on Ebay and replace them with whatever you like. Maybe a good upholstery shop can cover the wood on the wheel and e-brake or maybe you can have it painted by bumperplugs.com or maybe keep an eye out on ebay for a nice 996 shifter.. $100-$400 depending on the finish.
By the way Silver on Cinamon Red may be the absolute easiest colors to keep looking new, hides dust, dirt, lint very well. I've seen this combination up close and it gives the car a very pricey look. I once had a black on black car and never again...With Arctic silver and Boxster Red now, People are always asking me if I had the car fully detailed inside and out, even after weeks of not cleaning it.
That car seems fine if you can live with the interior. I can't imagine that any sins that led to the early demise of the clutch would hurt much else on the car. Remember too, that many folks replace the clutch when they do an RMS because it is not very much more money.
If it were me and it were similar mileage, I would go for the base 997 in that price range. Newer is nearly always better.
Ok so I saw the car, VERY nice. Nice paint, body, interior, all clean. Engine looked sound and he has already corrected the typical rear main seal problem of the 996s. I like the upgraded wheels he has and the wood trim is actually pretty nice. I could do without the puke colored leather but its no big deal. I could tell he was a Porsche newbie by the way he closed the front hood and the rear engine hood. So my guess is he burned out the clutch cuz it was too stiff for him and the hills took a toll on the clutch. After the clutch replacement the clutch goes in very soft, its no longer stiff, this weirded me out. Also he has done the 30K major service so all in all I have to say if I cant get a 997 for cheap im going to take it. I looked on Craigslist, Autotrader, Cars.com, and ebay and I dont find any 2003 996s with only 35K miles that are selling for this cheap. He told me the dealer offered him 42K but he hates dealers so he is trying to get a little more and let a good person enjoy it. He was a nice and and seemed trustworthy. He was a doctor, he was still in his scrubs haha....he seemed quite nice.
Have you been on the 997 Forum lately? There have been a decent number of pics of silver/gray cars with the Sand Beige interior, a combo which looked VERY nice.
However, because I don't like "dime a dozen" silver or "follow the leader" gray cars, I would not buy the car just because if the exterior color. Actually, the Cinnamon would be a nice change of pace. I would get rid of the wood pieces and probably add some aluminum interior bits to help bring the exterior color into the interior.
Yeah, I dare you to say that on the 993 forum!
Heck, I coulda bought a 997, but I chose a 996. I prefer it.
That said, I like the wood trim on this car. I ain't crazy about the interior color though, and I speculate that it is why the car is priced a bit low. But if you, the OP, like it, that's all that really matters, right?
Good luck!
Michael
I'm actually getting used to the interior. I think a little different is kinda cool. The wood is strange, but looks to be very good quality, and adds a little warmth to the normally cold Porsche interior. Couple that with all the new bits, and the excellent shape the car is in, I think you have a winner.
Just prepare for a longer than usual sale if/when you decide to sell.
Trade in price explains it all. Forget about what you see listed for retail. The dealers are all low balling trade-in prices. I have 1999 C2 and you would not believe how low the dealers are offering. So it sounds like your seller is looking to make just a bit more than the dealer is offerring and that is fair and sensible. Of course if the dealer gets it, he will certify it and jack the price up into the stratosphere.
OK...what planet do you all live on where you can get a 997 C2 for less than say $60K (and that is being VERY generous!!!). I have yet to see a 997 C2 (not even mentioning the C2S) for less than $65K -$70K. Now MAYBE someone works at Porsche and can get a deal, but that would be on a new 997 (or potentially a dealer car)...right??? And, that is not available to us...right??? So, let's stay on planet Earth where 997s are worth what they are...
and this interior is still nasty...IMHO
Yes, you are right rmillnj, dealer would probably list that car at 53K I bet. As for having a weird interior, not a new thing for me. My 87 Carrera (which ends on ebay tonight at 8PM) is granite green metallic on the outside (looks grey) and puke green leather on the inside haha.