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YOUR RESEARCHMy 2004 C4s is about to hit 50,000 miles
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Good thing they noticed that too because the whole instrument cluster had to be replaced for $2200.00.
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Anything replaced under the 4/50 warranty is warranted for ONLY the period of the 4/50 regardless when it was replaced/repaired.
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Anything replaced under the 4/50 warranty is warranted for ONLY the period of the 4/50 regardless when it was replaced/repaired.
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Yep, did the dealer check with the 986 before it came of warranty.
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My understanding from warranty direct was that there was no limit on what the labor rate for Porsche dealer servicing and they were not required to use 2nd hand parts or any of that.
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Lastly, the instrument cluster dimmer switch broke off at some point and I was really lazy about getting it fixed.
I want to know if people have had the dealer do an inspection of their car before it goes off of warranty.
This car has been a gem, but I would rather have it checked out... any thoughts?
I did an inspection when the car came off warranty ... found RMS #2. Was not much of a big deal because RMS #1 was covered for 2 years. In any case I think it's money well spent.
Yea, I think it's a good idea and that's what I did too. I asked them to do a yearly inspection (which I needed anyway) and that covers all the visual checks and cost about $100 (in San Diego) and you get a stamp on the maintenance book too.
Oh also, if you plan to get an extended warranty, it's a good time now before the factory warranty expires.
- Ahsai
I second the thought on extended warranty. not so much for resale value either. My 2000 has just a shade under 95k on it. Last year about a month before I put it away, it decided to reject its transmission......
That little event cost me $13k......... extended warranty would have been cheaper. When something goes wrong on these cars, it is NEVER cheap.
I don't know about a C4S but warranty direct quoted me about a grand a year for three years bumper to bumper. I've only had to fix one thing on this car in 35K miles so I passed. But it sure helps comfort the prospective buyer because for a mere $50 you can transfer the warranty to that new owner.
For my next pcar (I only buy 2nd hand) I will only consider CPO'd or cars with a warranty direct policy.
The thought of having an intermediate shaft failure requiring a new engine (not all that rare) OUT OF WARRANTY.. will push me away from considering out of warranty Pcars.
I did the same :
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-forum/288466-car-coming-out-of-warranty-what-should-i-check.html
Aftermarket warranties are too expensive ($4.5K for 3/36). I'm talking about the ones that will actually cover Porsche labor rate at $150/hr and OEM parts without any limit. I've put aside the 5K I would have spent on the warranty ... If I need an engine, the 5K will go towards it, and I'll call it my bad luck. If I don't need anything major (which has a higher probablity), I'll come out on top.
you are definitely rolling the dice, considering in Riad's case you are talking about $60K car I don't think $1000-1200 a year is that expensive. My understanding from warranty direct was that there was no limit on what the labor rate for Porsche dealer servicing and they were not required to use 2nd hand parts or any of that. They were also well aware of the RMS saga and fully covered it.
If I'm looking at two well cared for C4S cars and one comes with the warranty direct policy its a no brainer. But I guess its up to each person to decide, particularly if they plan on keeping it for many years after the warranty expires. I decided to bank the money in case of a disaster because the policy represented more than 10% of my car's value, not including major maintenance.
Yep, did the dealer check with the 986 before it came of warranty.
Get them to look for the usual suspects:
Coolant tank cracks
RMS leak
Worn bushings (creaking suspension)
MAF (rough idle and/or fault codes)
Any cosmetic issues with interior and trim (leather)
Cracked coils (rough idle and/or fault codes)
Dying battery
Leaking water pump
blocked airways to radiators
blocked drains from sunroof
Missing/cracked under car panels
That's what comes to mind off the top of my head.
My 986 final inspection netted me a new stereo, new water pump and new expansion tank - so it was worth doing!
I recently bought an 02 with 17k miles and got an extended warranty for $2400. The first month had RMS and that would have cost me $1600.
I believe in the warranties, but you have to check them out carefully.
I had an end of warranty inspection done. While they did not find anything major, they did fix a couple of things which I had no clue about.
First, one of the two horns weren't working. The low one apparently. Had no clue, didn't use the horn that much.
Second, some interior leather trim piece had started to delaminate from the backing, so they replaced that. Again, didn't notice it myself.
Lastly, the instrument cluster dimmer switch broke off at some point and I was really lazy about getting it fixed. Good thing they noticed that too because the whole instrument cluster had to be replaced for $2200.00. I kept putting it off because I figured it was a quick 10 minute job and a $5 piece of plastic. That would have been painful...
So, the inspection paid for itself.
My Targa just came off warranty and I had my dealer do the PPI equivalent a few days prior. Cost ~$175. Like you, I'm not a believer in extended warranties, or most insurance for that matter. Then again, I'm the guy that told my wife we don't need pet insurance, only to rack up >$10K in vet bills on a chronically ill dog. It's a gamble either way. Back to the point, though, do the PPI...it'll make you feel better going into your non-warranty period.
-- M
i was wondering where you 've been those days.
i wouldn't get ext. warranty,
i would send the car for a service, and have dealer check everything again to make sure everything is good.
I for the past few months I'd been working a studio project with an artist from the UK, really long days... yada yada
Now I have an ear infection for the past two weeks and haven't been able to do any audio work, so I have some more free time now.
Yes, they have two albums released. I'm work with John Garrison the lead singer/songwriter on his new solo CD.
And yes, it's cold play, radio head like - just better
Actually that is NOT correct. Anything replaced under the 4/50 warranty is warranted for ONLY the period of the 4/50 regardless when it was replaced/repaired. If you had the RMS done on the last day of your 4/50 warranty and it went the following week after your 4/50 expired you would NOT be covered. The 2 year warranty is for those outside the 4/50. However, with that said, the chance that you will get something "goodwilled" is high if it is that close to the warranty (4/50) expiration. It is important to know the FACTS before quoting that something is/isn't covered.
Taken directly from the PCNA website.......
The warranty periods begin on the day of delivery to the customer. The following periods apply:
4 years warranty for all new vehicles;
2-year warranty for genuine Porsche parts, exchange parts and accessories, which are used or sold outside of warranty work. The warranty period for Porsche parts which are used in connection with warranty work ends contemporaneously with the warranty period for the purchased item which has become defective;
3 years for the paintwork;
10-year long-life warranty against rust holes in the bodyshell. (please refer to the conditions in the Warranty and Maintenance handbook)
Porsche Approved Warranty is 2 years / 100,000 miles, once the vehicle is outside the original vehicle warranty period.
Warranty can be claimed from any Porsche partner across the world.
Excellent! - really like Too Blind..., less complex yet gives more
For those that like this style of music, this one slipped under the mainstream radar and is worth a purchase off Amazon or iTunes.
Not seen the other album?
I'll look forward to the solo effort - any release date yet?
We finished tracking 22 songs
and have narrowed down the list to 10 songs that will make the CD.
We will start mixing the project as soon as I can hear again
Right now the guess would be around June 1st or so. I'll post some songs up as soon as they are ready for primetime to give people a little sample
Here's the Budapest myspace:
http://www.myspace.com/budapestband
Dell you are right ... and thanks for pointing that out. In my case, the original work (RMS #1) was done on an extended warranty (EasyCare), so it was not under the Porsche warranty. When the RMS came back, they covered it under the 2 years parts / labor warranty on the previous RMS job.
Thanks again
That's awesome in your case since it was not a PCNA warranty you actually made out better since you got the full 2yr PCNA warranty for work that EasyCare did.
forget looking for warranty or coverage on the C4S - talk to LLoyds about covering those ears man!
read a biography on Beethoven during your respite - there will be a degree of empathy that will hopefully never be repeated.
get well!