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cat

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Turned out to be a cat.

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Check carefully

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I assume they checked carefully?

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Replace under warranty

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Use mufflers and install them yourself

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Get some used mufflers and install them yourself, but only AFTER you do the PSE MK II mod.

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Check carefully

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I assume they checked carefully?

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Replace both

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I've replaced two, and I know two other people in Charlotte who've also had to replace both.

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Check carefully

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I assume they checked carefully?

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Replace both

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I've replaced two, and I know two other people in Charlotte who've also had to replace both.

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Replace under warranty

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Replaced under warranty.

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Test "

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If neither muffler rattles during the mallet "test", then it's probably not a big deal.

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Test can work as hans suggested

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So, the mallet test can work as Hans suggested but I would want to pull off that muffler (cold) and shake it a bit to confirm before heading off to look for a replacement.

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Use mufflers and install them yourself

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Get some used mufflers and install them yourself, but only AFTER you do the PSE MK II mod.

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cat

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Turned out to be a cat.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

My car is at the dealer for a 45K service and the tech called me that I have a rattle in my driver's side muffler and that it is due to a loose baffle in the muffler? My car still has the P-CPO but he stated that this wouldn't be covered. Basically I would need a new muffle rand it would cost me about $785. Did anybody have the same issue and can you confirm if a CPO should or shouldn't cover. Thanks.

POST 2Original post

mufflers are specifically excluded in my CPO contract (from last year) Don't bother paying 800 bucks for a new muffler, just buy one or a set from someone here or search ebay, and either mount yourself or let a local muffler shop mount it. I think worst case you'd be looking at a couple of hundred bucks

POST 3Original post

https://rennlist.com/forums/996-forum/464636-searching-for-a-pair-of-3-6l-mufflers.html

POST 4Original post

Slightly OT, but what do people here think about the supersprint mufflers? I am a huge fan of their products, but all I ever see here are fabspeed or junk like that.

POST 5Original post

Quotes source post: 5972781

I may be totally wrong, but from what I remember supersprint mufflers were marketed as TechArt or another more bling make for the 996, which may be why you don't hear about them as much. I do remember a buddy had a set of bypasses he bought from them directly, seemed to be fine. The mufflers direct from supersprint are about 700 bucks a side, and they do want like 300 bucks a side for tips, which is a little nuts!

POST 6Original post

Quotes source post: 5972735

Dutchie, I agree with what Han said. Get some used mufflers and install them yourself, but only AFTER you do the PSE MK II mod. Or, better yet, do the PSE MK II mod to your current mufflers and re-install them. Cost $80 to $100 and you won't care if the rattle a little.

POST 7 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 5972969

Tim, any links to what that mod is? Also, how difficult is it to install myself?

POST 8Original post

Just a dumb question, but I hear of more cats rattling than mufflers. I assume they checked carefully?

POST 9Original post

Quotes source post: 5972999

lots of info on muffler mod options in this thread: https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...ferrerid=35947

POST 10 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 5973004

ok, now I'm going to show my ignorance... what's the difference? Tech told me that there was a loose baffle in the muffler... any baffles in the Cat?

POST 11Original post

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hopefully they pulled the muffler and shook it to confirm the source of the noise. Lot's of stuff that can cause a rattle back there... No baffles in the cats, just the cells which can make noise if they crack (sounds a little different though):

POST 12Original post

You can take a rubber mallet and hit each muffler while the engine is off. If there's a baffle loose, it'll rattle from inside. Assuming one of them is good, you will clearly hear a difference between good and bad. If neither muffler rattles during the mallet "test", then it's probably not a big deal. If the rattle is coming from a bracket or mounting hardware, you should be able to hear that as well. Do you notice a rattle when driving? If the muffler is shot, then you will generally hear the rattling all the time. If it doesn't rattle until it's warmed up a bit, it has a higher chance of being one of the catalytic converters.

POST 13Original post

"Rattle in Muffler..." how did your baby get it in there in the first place.... I would look for another baby sitter.

POST 14 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 5973615

It actually seems to ratle more at start-up and then goes away after a while...??

POST 15Original post

Quotes source post: 5974415

Since metal expands contracts with heat... that is quite possible. Do you have PSE?

POST 16Original post

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Mine did the same thing. Turned out to be a cat. Replaced at no cost as it threw a CEL.

POST 17 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 5974863

Don't have PSEs

POST 18Original post

So, the mallet test can work as Hans suggested but I would want to pull off that muffler (cold) and shake it a bit to confirm before heading off to look for a replacement. As I said, there are various possbile causes of a rattle in that area (less w/o PSE). Ask the shop how they arrived at their conclusion. That should help in making a decision.

POST 19Original post

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Exact same thing for me. I had one bad cat that was ratteling. Replaced under warranty.

POST 20Original post

Doesn't it seem like a lot of people have cat problems with the 996? I've replaced two, and I know two other people in Charlotte who've also had to replace both. Now, all of these cars have been tracked so maybe that's part of it, but it was never an issue with my '87 and I've never heard complaints from 964/993 owners.

POST 21Original post

Kind of on-topic I hope . . .Is a cat rattle audible only when you hit a bump or is it kind of all the time. I have a metalic noise from the rear over certain bumps, but could be lots of things . . .

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