Former 993 owners?????

I just got a great opportunity to drive an 2001 996 and it is amazing. What a wonderful car. This is the only P-car that I have had the opportunity to drive. But all along I had said my first one will be a 993, but since I haven't had the chance to drive one, I have questions for former owners. After having both models, would you buy a late 993 or and early 996? What do you like/dislike about one model over the other? I would assume that if you had 2 equally maintained cars, the reoccuring maintenance will be similar? Thanks for the replys. John

had an early 993 ( Nov 93 build) and an early 996 ( Nov 97 build) . Really different cars in character and a late 993 now worth more than the early 996 ( in UK and probably in US , don't know about Germany). You can't go wrong with either car....the 993 is closer to the heritage , I prefer the 996 because its easier to jump in and go on a day to day basis ( akin to owning a BMW or Merc but still a sportscar)

993 servicing is also much more costly then 996 (at least at my OPC) this was one of the things that swung it for me, as well as the fact that the 993 interior looks like a leftover from the 1970s (although it is better quality than the 996 cabin)

Had a '95 993 and now have a '03 996. Simply no comparison. The 996 is so far superior in virtually every category. What an incredible car! With P cars, you need to fight thru the tradionalists who decry every new model as tho it were some kind of Ford Fairlane. Drive both and judge for yourself.

Ive got em both, need em both and respect the advantages and differences. There is no 'right' answer for you, just what you prefer at the moment you decide to part with your $$ or decide its intended use. As a daily driver in traffic, 996 hands down. On a back country road, early morning. Don Henley crooning, gotta be the 993. Good to have choices in life, but definitely make one.

I have owned a 96 993 (2 � years) and my current 01 996 (1 year). The are vastly different vehicles. Drive both and decide which one fits your needs and wants. Here are some quick impressions I have of both from my experience. The 996 is faster and �easier� to drive to the edge. It is a faster car, no question in its superiority when it comes to performance. Is it the superior car for you????? that is the big question. The answer is different for each individual. The 996 is comfortable, bigger, more ergonomic, quieter, more refined, and an all round better daily driver. This does not mean the 993 can�t be driven daily, it can. The 993 is more raw, loud, and engaging. You get wonderful mechanical sounds coming from the back at all times. It has a wonderful wail and scream when you get on the accelerator, that is muted in the 99-01 996�s. The 996 is more comfortable for long drives. I loved the 993, but I wanted something different for daily driving and I could not afford another nice car. When I first got the 996 I was a little bummed about the lost of the rawness, but as I drove it more and more I realized it is a fantastic car to drive and that I made the right decision. Maintenance: the rates are the same locally. The only problem is some items are more difficult to perform on the 993. However, much of the maintenance can be DIY. Read up on both models short comings and decide what is better for you. There are countless threads about this same topic.

This is one of the reasons I love the 993. The look and SMELL is totally what I remember from being a kid, and getting to ride in my friend's father's 911. It makes me smile everytime I get in the cockpit. You need to drive both cars and decide for yourself. I don't think you can go wrong , either way.

One of the reasons I like my 996 more is that it is fast, comfortable, safer, low maintainance, reliable, and easy to drive. Not many cars can do all so well. Also, 996 cab is so much better looking than 993 cab. Having sold a rock solid RX7 TT previously, I appreciate the nice features of a modeern sophisticate 996. If you wish for louder exhaust, get a 02-04 or PSE. C2S and C4S widebody 993 will be collector items and certainly the price reflect this. I like them but I don't want to own one for $50k. If you are really set on 993 and plan on using it during weekends, I'd not hesistate in getting a widebody as prices will hold and maybe increase if you keep it for a while.

Bottom line I think is that both cars are wonderful. I opted for the 996 simply b/c it is a more refined and modern car. I believe the 993 is a more bare bones sports car.I'll shut up now.

I like my 996 better than my 993. I drive it a LOT more because it has a usable trunk, better soundproofing, wider cockpit, and is much easier to get in and out of. My 1999 model has 41,000 miles on it and the survey taken on this chat room revealed that most Rear Main Seal leaks had surfaced in cars by the time they had 35,000 miles on them. RMS occurred in later model years, not just the 1999 to 2000 models. My 993 was sexier because of the air cooled whine but it was not as much fun beyond an hour in the cockpit. It is real tough to find a GOOD 993 because of the age of the cars. Most have at least minor problems such as oil leakage, etc. You'll find a cherry 996 much easier. I looked at 25 cars until I found one in excellent condition.

Had two 993's, a 95 coupe with sport suspension and seats and a 95 cab, basically a cruiser. Wish I'd kept the coupe but you can't keep everything- several Porsches I'd wish I'd never sold, but that's another story. Have a 996 GT3- my dream supercar, or as close as I'll ever get. You can't go wrong with either one but I'd probably favour a later 993 over an early 996 as they did seem to have many little problems... enjoy the decision.

Yeah, those are the guys who always say 'that isn't a real Porsche because it isn't ______ (air cooled, have two doors, doesn't have a rear engine, etc.) Why do they do that? I wonder if there similar people on Corvette forums for example?

I had a 2001 996 and had the opportunity to buy out the lease but decided to spend the same $$ on a 1997 993 with less mileage. Basically I wanted something new, always loved the look and the feel of the 993, and basically wanted to own the last of the air-cooled 911s. I used the '01 as a daily driver and now have used the 993 as a daily driver for about 8 months.... I pretty much echo what has already been said--the 996 feels faster and easier to drive, the engine spins up RPMs with ease, and the comfort factor is much higher in the 996. The 993 is more antiquated and raw, but that happens to be why I like it. Also, in Atlanta at least, 996s are a dime a dozen but you rarely see any 993s. The car gets a lot of attention and people are much more prone to ask you "what year is that, wow I never see those on the street, etc". While I don't drive the car to get attention, it's always nice to hear compliments on it All of that said, you really need to drive both cars the way you will want to drive them when you make your choice. Figure out what you will want to use the car for [weekends? every day? trackdays only?] and judge the car based on that. They are both terrific cars, but they really are apples and oranges. Both have the flat 6 hung out over the rear axle, and both are Porsches, but the similarities end there--very different animals, the 996 and 993 are. One thing I do know for certain--BUY ONE OF THEM!!! You'll never regret it.

I had a 993 S from 97. Loved it for what it was, a raw almost race car. At the time it was my second car and I could just look at it in awe for hours. But the car was a bitch for everyday use and rather costly in maintenance. I got my 996 last year. It was a more refined ride, although quicker ride. The more I drive it the more I enjoy it. It is truly a daily 911 that still kicks butt when you floor it. I do miss the noise, the smell and the "uniqueness" but the 996 is a better everyday partner. Further, I plan to continue to enjoy 911's and it felt like a natural step. 993 are not getting younger. A friend of mine is looking to buy his 1st 911 in teh coming days. So we have been around a few cars. We saw this very decent 993 C4 and I felt Tons of nostalgia. Would I want to have one today. NO, not as a main car. Either way, drive both and make up your mind. Good luck with your choice.

are you a skier? If so, you know that feeling of skiing really fast, under control but knowing that at any minute you may hit a patch of ice of crud and you may lose it? If so, then you know what driving a 993 is like. I've had both, and must say I am much more relaxed in my 996c4s, I don't drive in fear of the car biting me if i make a mistake.

I couldn't disagree more with this statement. A 993 is a great handling, road hugging car.It gives great feedback to the driver and definately doesn't feel like you may lose it at any minute .Maybe the car you had did not have the suspension set up properly.

I had a 97 993. I think the 993 is a great car. It's 30 years of continued enovation, but it's an age old frame. They could only push it so far to adapt to ever changing road conditions. It's true that they say that the 993 needs more attention to drive, it dances with the road surface. The 996 does not. If it hits a bump, it stays in it's trajectory. I think that stability is good for our fast highways/freeways of today. 02 and newer has 40 horses more, with lighter bodyweight. So you actually gain more push power. The interior is more civilized functionaly. Shifting alone is so much easier with my 996. It's a shorter throw with less effort. It gives me that more sport shifting feel. I could only go on and on. My only advice though is inspect the car thoroughly for the RMS. Look at the bolts where the transmission meets the engine for oil seepage, or if they bear signs that they were move before, a telltale that the RMS was replaced. I'm lucky that mine is clean(Knock on wood). I still have 9 mos of waranty and only have 13500 mi. There's only few percentage of these cars that have that problem, of course you only hear it from these guys thats why it seems like it's an epidemic in rennlist. I took a porsche master mechanic(I consider the best here in our area) with me when I looked at my 02coupe from a non porsche dealer. I gave him $40 for 20 mins of his time(although he didn't want to take it being a friend) to look at the car real good, drive it to check the Vario Cams, ABS and PSM if they were all working good. The mechanical checks he did weren't limited to what I mentioned but those were the big ones he explained to me while we were driving it and he let me feel them at work/or when they kick in. The car has 9 mos more of waranty, so thats a plus. 1 more thing, ease maintenance on the engine is 4 folds better than the 993. Changing oil is easier than my Toyota truck. Oil Filter and Drain Port are both right at the bottom of engine. Good luck on your search. Pick what your heart really wants. I respect all porschephiles for whatever model they pick. Porsches are all track bred cars...and the Cayene to pull the trailer to the track

I don't think he's saying that the 993 isn't a good handling car. What he's saying is that the behavior at the limit is less predictable than the 996. I think he's right and his skiing analogy is perfect (having just done some great high runs in Taos last week).

The 993 is difficult to find people to set up the suspension properly. The Kinemetic toe settings is somewhat tricky to set up properly and most alignment shops don't even have the proper tool. Even many dealership fail to make this adjustment. The failure to adjust this setting properly can cause some wicked handling characteristics under certain circumstances. However, the failure to set this setting properly is usually not noticed in sedate in town driving or even at highway speeds on straight smooth roads. The 996 does away with this setting. Additionally the 993 stock suspension does not last long. The degradation is gradual and usually not noticed by the owner but it is happening. The result is many ill handling cars because the owners think because of the lower miles everything is fine (even though many of the cars are approaching 10 years old). That said a properly set up 993 is not skittish and/or unpredictable. Sure it is compared to an Honda accord but not in the realm of sports cars.

I'd have to agree with my 993 brother here. I feel the utmost confidence in my 993 C4S on sweeping curves at 100mph+. Most times I don't realize the stability of the car at those speeds until I peer down at the speedometer in utter amazement. Very easy to get into trouble here (with the law that is). I'd have to agree however, that the 993 is not the most daily-driver friendly. You have to pay much closer attention on what you are doing than any other car. What I do like about the 996s are their modern interiors. However, being that all new car interiors have a similar feel, getting into my 993 gives me a nostalgic feel, a feel that I am sitting in a piece of Porsche history. Just my $.00002. When it comes down to it...all Porsches are beautiful.

"I'd have to agree however, that the 993 is not the most daily-driver friendly" i love my 993 100 miles a day, 5 days a week (+ weekend driving). (hate the maintenance though!)

I never tried a 993 but I do think that the 993 C4S is the best looking car of the lot with my 996 C4S a close second (my opinion so don't bother to contradict please). Barry