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Winter driving with snow tires and NO PSM?

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YOUR RESEARCHWinter driving with snow tires and NO PSM?

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clearence

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No to mention my CLK55 AMG with 364Trq in the snow, just take it easy - your only problem is clearence.

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Run blizzak lm-22's

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I'm running Blizzak LM-22's on my Mitsu Evo, and they're surprising-good in and out of snow.

Winter driving with snow tires and NO PSM?
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I'm running Blizzak LM-22's on my Mitsu Evo, and they're surprising-good in and out of snow.

Winter driving with snow tires and NO PSM?

Test these various theories

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Say, any room in the passenger seat while you're testing these various theories?

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I'm running Blizzak LM-22's on my Mitsu Evo, and they're surprising-good in and out of snow.

Winter driving with snow tires and NO PSM?

Test these various theories

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Say, any room in the passenger seat while you're testing these various theories?

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clearence

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No to mention my CLK55 AMG with 364Trq in the snow, just take it easy - your only problem is clearence.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Can a 911 C2 be "safely" driven with snow tires and no PSM, in the winter? is psm a necessary option?

POST 2Original post

All I can say is that I was in a parking lot one day after a couple of inches of snow just to test out my C4. I did some hard breaking, fast turns all that fun stuff. I had Dunlop Winter M2 tires on and it was unreal.... then I turned off the PSM, OMG, I was all over the place. I was able to take a quick turn and spin the car completely around, and this was with a C4. So I believe that you would need to be super careful, even with snow tires on. Rob

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I also Drove both My 986 and 986S without PSM with Dunlops M2 Winter Sport Rubber With No Problem. No to mention my CLK55 AMG with 364Trq in the snow, just take it easy - your only problem is clearence. My 03 Targa is surprisly good in the snow, without M2 winter Sports - New Year I plan on getting a set to mount.

POST 4Original post

before I bought my C4S, I had a 993 c2 with snow tires (Pirelli ) and if driven reasonable, I had no trouble in the Cleveland winters

POST 5Original post

all i have to say is that people were driving RWD cars in the snow long before there was traction control or PSM...

POST 6Original post

Before PSM became available, we had a few demos that we ran in the winter with snow tires and no PSM. The cars handle it fine.

POST 7Original post

Say, any room in the passenger seat while you're testing these various theories? Sounds like fun, but NFW I'm driving my C2 in the snow. No, I'm not a wimp, but in California where we're presumed idiots when driving in the snow (and frankly most of us are), hence chain control, it's illegal w/o AWD, regardless of tires, but mainly I just don't want the rock chips from that stuff they call "sand" that's spread all over snow-covered highways here. Seriously, as long as the roads get plowed occasionally (ground clearance), you should be just fine with a set of real snow tires. I'm running Blizzak LM-22's on my Mitsu Evo, and they're surprising-good in and out of snow. Cheers, -DT

POST 8Original post

The PSM is confidence-inspiring, but I don't feel it kick in all that often, unless I'm trying to make the car slide

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