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i'll need to replace both rears, but that isn't a big fix and i'll probably do it myself some weekend.
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If you want to avoid tickets use common sense and a vigilant eye (1/4 mile ahead and 1/4 mile behind you.) I can't tell you the number of times I've been running >80 or 90 with another car or two and I backed off for a hill crest, blind curve or suspicious looking car only to watch the other guy blow by me and get pinched.
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If I were running radar in an area with lots of traffic, then most people would be warned ahead of time.
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Using a detector and using your brain are not mutually exclusive activities.
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If you are traveling down the freeway and notice a big white line across the road, the that's usually a good indicator that vascar is being used close by.
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If you want to avoid tickets use common sense and a vigilant eye (1/4 mile ahead and 1/4 mile behind you.) I can't tell you the number of times I've been running >80 or 90 with another car or two and I backed off for a hill crest, blind curve or suspicious looking car only to watch the other guy blow by me and get pinched.
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If you are traveling down the freeway and notice a big white line across the road, the that's usually a good indicator that vascar is being used close by.
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so went to my independent mechanic for the 1st time for an oil change. great guy to know. i found him via a link on the SE michigan pca site.
anyway, i asked him about the black box under the nose that i had noticed. he said it's a k40 radar detector and showed me the hidden switch by my right knee. dealer never knew about it.
looks like i got a ~$1000 bonus prize.
I disagree, this may be true if you are the only car on the road. However in most circumstances my V1 picks up the instant on radar when the trigger happy cop starts shotting it at the car a mile ahead of me on the road, tipping me off that there is a speed trap ahead.
Congrats, I have one too. Like you I discovered it after I bought the car, dealer did not even remember that the car had it, and they sold the car and arranged to have it install for the first owner.
I think it works well, as long as you know it's not perfect at finding them all. I have front and rear radar as well as laser jammers. My lights are wired into my turn signals, so they flash red when alerting but green when turning. A very professional install, if I did not show it to you, you would never know it was there. My switch is by my right knee and the highway/city light is just a small a light on my shoehorn. Lasers are; around the license plate surround in back and the front it is tucked up in front (you have to know what you are looking for to spot it) and both have quick disconnects if the front or rear clips need to be removed. Very stealth, Earmark Audio here in Dallas did the install, so word to them.
Download your instructions fro the K40 website and you are good to go.
Oh and I found out through a dealer invoice that my system was installed at a cost of $2200 in 2004. Ouch, glad someone else paid that.
I totally agree with CrazyKid. As long as you have someone in front of you they are very likely to get hit and you pick it up.
Using a radar detector effectively takes a lot of experience. The police aren't stupid and know most of the tricks, but as long as you understand their limitations and the detector limitations, you should be able move along at a brisk pace. It is true though that when you are the only car on the road you are most vulnerable to instant on.
The K40 stealth unit that came with my car also has laser and radar jamming capabilities. Unfortunately, the control module is shot, and I have to pull it out and send it to K40 for a replacement ($129 fee).
Can a K40 system be updated to deal with modern radar/laser? The car I'm seriously thinking about has one, don't know when it was installed, but I'm guessing it was not too long after purchase in '99...
amen, brotha!
i did have the mechanic take a good look at the seals while the car was up and he said the engine and engine bay was the cleanest he's seen on a 7 year old p-car and no sign of IMS or RMS leak from a visual inspection *knock on wood*.
only thing he spotted was some dampness on the passenger side rear shock. i'll need to replace both rears, but that isn't a big fix and i'll probably do it myself some weekend.
Great, so I'd have to be second fastest. What's the point then? I either want to drive ***** to the wall (track) or I just resign myself that the extra 10mph is just not worth that risk of paying municipal tax, er, I mean, the speeding ticket.
Another way to look at radar detectors is that they work until they don't. I tell you, once you're on the track, highways are such a bore anyway.
I don't think you get it. No radar detector is a license to speed, they can only improve your odds a bit.
IMHO, the V1 is very good at improving the odds. Mine has saved me more times than I can count. That being said I have received more than one ticket with the V1 sitting on my dash.
If you want a zero percent chance of receiving a ticket, drive the limit as no detector will provide those odds.
You get me completely. That's exactly my point. Driving 5 or 10 above the limit and you're probably fine. More than that, and all a detector lets you know in my region is that you're about to get pulled.
Frankly, the cheapest "radar detector" is to sit behind a speeder as you already do and watch their brake lights.
Besides, at the end of the day, how much time are you really saving? 10 minutes an hour? Whoopee. 85 really floats my boat.
No attitude at all Mate. It was sarcasm. With friends like a radar detector that only sometimes works, who needs it. But if it works for you, go with what you know. I'll stick with my 100% guaranteed system. 5 over and a cool radio station to pass the time.
My V1 has also saved me more than a few times. Luckily here in NJ many of the cops are lazy and just leave the radar on all of the time so they are easy to pick up.
I have also been stopped by a cop once who told me he hit me with radar doing 65 in a 50mph zone as he came at me. At the time I was doing less than 60 and he never turned his radar on until after he had turned around to stop me. He had made the stop because of the car and he thought I was going fast. The V1 lit up when he finally turned the radar on, but by then I was doing 50 precisely. I confronted him nicely about the fact that my working radar detector did not light up until he was behind me. He backed down and just told me to be careful pulling out.
I have talked to other cops about this and they admitted that there are more than a few cops out there who just make the stuff up as they go.
LOL.....
You really don't get it. You acknowledge above that even at 5-10mph you are only "probably" fine. Throw a good detector in that equation and I'd contend you odds of escaping a ticket are significantly enhanced (vs blind hope).
By your logic, it's better to hope a LEO will let 5-10 slide vs. having some extra protection. Doesn't sound smart to me at all.
I think I'll keep my V1. Have fun driving without.
Changing the subject a little. A friend got a ticket and instead of the usual ".5 miles NE of road X", his ticket gave longitude and lattitude. The road tax collector (some call police officer) made the comment that he had clocked him well before they passed or saw each other. It got me thinking, can these guys use GPS to determine speeds between point x and point y, thereby rending radar detectors useless?
well, i'm not clear on the circumstances, but in order for anyone to be able to clock via GPS, he'd have to shadow your friends car and match speeds and utilize his own GPS on the patrol car to determine speed between 2 points. so i think your friend was lasered, if the cop was coming from the opposite direction, or more likely, the cop is just pulling a fast one on how your friend was clocked.
the coordinates on the ticket probably reflects the position of the patrol car where your friend was pulled over.
After trying to keep the car below 80 most of the time, I really feel for those NASCAR guys having to deal with a 65 mph pit road speed limit! It's HARD not to speed in a 911!
i'm no expert, but VASCAR is something that i think could be fought in court (unless one gets video of the speeding car).
just as in the acronym, it's average speed that's calculated. now it's possible to travel between 2 points, break the speed limit, but still average below the speed limit.
so i could travel from point A to B in, let's say 20 seconds, with the cruise set at 60MPH and average 60 MPH.
or i could stop at point A (or just drive very slowly to through point A) wait a number of seconds, and then go 90 MPH halfway through and arrive at point B in 20 seconds.
if i'm not mistaken both scenarios would have an average speed of 60MPH (it's friday and i can't do math right now, but i think i get the point across).
Correct, but if the speed limit is 55 and you average 75, the police can correctly assume you were indeed speeding between the two points (it may have been 100 for half and 50 for half, but it is still speeding).
Courts have upheld vascar in the past. It may be a tough case.
I'm a traffic cop and have been for over 10 years. Not once have I ever written a ticket to someone who wasn't doing what I first estimated and then confirmed with my radar or vascar what they were doing. Just this week I got my new lidar. The only advice I can give to those who don't like tickets, is to obey the speed limits. Or atleast for me is to not drive more than 16mph over the limit. Just for the record, I have written thousands and thousands of tickets and not one has ever been beat in court. Most attorney's in Charlotte will not go to trial over a ticket. Out of my 16years in police work, I have had 2 people plead not guilty and they both lost the case.
Now here's some tips on radar detectors. If I were running radar in an area with lots of traffic, then most people would be warned ahead of time. If I am on a road where there is not lots of traffic, then you would be not as lucky. Our radars give us instance speed of what the target cars speed is. So by the time your detector gets the signal, your speed is locked on my radar. Our radar signal travels at the "speed of light". That's how we get that instance reading.
If anyone has anymore questions on radars, vascars or lidar, let me know. I am with you guys in what kinda car I drive, but I still like the police.
Most of the time when we use vascar, you don't usually know your being clocked. If you are traveling down the freeway and notice a big white line across the road, the that's usually a good indicator that vascar is being used close by. These are usually at on ramps on the interstate. my advice is if you are flying down the freeway and you see a white line and a police officer on the on ramp, slam on the breaks, or slow down before you get to the other line. Since the speed is an average speed, the extra time to get to the the other line with drastically slow sown the computed speed.
you're one of the reasons i don't speed in NC
i used to regularly make the drive from charlotte to north wilkesboro. it was always in a rental car, so no temptation to speed (never got the mustang upgrade), but like texas or ohio, NC doesn't seem a safe place to speed overly much.
I've got a few questions (I'm not sure you'll answer them honestly)
- How many time have you been pulled over and flashed the badge to get a free pass (If you're anything like my associates husband who is also a LEO this happens every time he is pulled over)? What do you think of this "professional courtesy" among LEO's?
- Do you have a quota or are you encouraged to write tickets (again my friends husband has this pressure)?
- Have you ever issued a ticket to a driver for failure to move right to yield to faster traffic on the left (left lane bandit)?
- Do you occasionally speed (like most people we all witness on the road every day)? If so how do you justify penalizing otherwise law abiding people for that which you do yourself?
Sorry if my questions seem harsh. I too like the police and I have a great deal of respect for officers like my bike riding buddy, a Chicago police detective who spends his day solving typical big city crime. I have less respect for the officers who spend their day behind a radar gun "taxing" the population one ticket a at a time.
Do not read this as a criticism of you or your work as you and I have never met and I would certainly not judge you from afar. Rather read it as a curiosity over how an insider like you views the current state of affairs in traffic enforcement.
- How many time have you been pulled over and flashed the badge to get a free pass (If you're anything like my associates husband who is also a LEO this happens every time he is pulled over)? What do you think of this "professional courtesy" among LEO's?
I think I have been pulled over 3 times in 10 years. I don't carry my badge with me unless I am going out of town. Didn't get a ticket on any stop. 2 out of the 3 stops were for speeding 57mph in a 45mph zone and 35mph in a 25mph zone in my neighborhood. I knew the officer's on every stop also. Now, there are 2 troopers in my county where I live that will right you not matter who you are or what you do. I there are lots of officer's who work with me who found this out the hard way.
- Do you have a quota or are you encouraged to write tickets (again my friends husband has this pressure)?
Quota, no.
Pressure, yes.
- Have you ever issued a ticket to a driver for failure to move right to yield to faster traffic on the left (left lane bandit)?
Yes I have written one to a lady who was lost and driving 55mph in a 65mph zone in the fast lane. I was very mad since she had traffic in the fast lane backed up for about 300yards. I told her she if she was gonna be lost, she needed to be lost in the slow lane, which is the far right. Nothing pisses me off more than people who think they are left lane regulators.
- Do you occasionally speed (like most people we all witness on the road every day)? If so how do you justify penalizing otherwise law abiding people for that which you do yourself?
First of all, traffic enforcement itself does not only include speeding offenses. I write tickets for expired tags, seatbelts, window tint and a whole lot of other driving offenses. One of my main priorities is to lock up drunk drivers. That's why I work at night. For me to stop you for speeding means tat you are driving in a reckless manner. People pass me all the time on the interstate and don't stop them. I do drive a unmarked car, so that does help me get the top runners, which are the ones driving recklessly. it's not like I go out and stop people for going 5-10mph over the limit. I usually drive around 10-15mph over the limit and that's what I usually give others. My daughter is usually in my p-car with me which always keeps me straight.
Hope this helps a little. You are in IL and I am in NC. Things are drastically different for us.
I genuinely appreciate your answers. You sound like a great guy and I'd like to meet you some time. (Hopefully not on a traffic stop as I'll be moving to Charlotte in Dec.)
You sound like one of the good guys and again, thank you for the honest response.....
Window tint has to 35% on all windows and no front plates are required. Also, I have never ever written a ticket to a 911 driver before, if that helps out any.
Nice to have reliable input instead of conjecture. Thanks for your upfront answers regarding speeding and enforcement . When I've been stopped in the past for speeding, I've found that honsety and courtesy can go a long way in determing the outcome. Thanks for your input Taylorsnutrition.
I just wish many of our police and politicians could have the opportunity to get over to Germany and see how they handle traffic enforcement on the autobahns. I feel much safer on the autobahn without a speed limit then I do on our American interstates. For the most part without a speed limit, traffic does not bunch up like it does here. NO ONE ever passes on the right. NO ONE sits in the left lane, because without a speed limit it belongs to the faster car and NO ONE disputes that. Even with heavy traffic things flow more smoothly.
And where there is a need to slow down, everyone really does slow down. When you are driving the autobahn and you see a reduced speed limit sign, people actually pay attention to it. And yes, they do use a lot of cameras in those places to keep people honest. And at least the cameras are totally impartial as to who they catch.
The usual argument though about why the autobahns works without speed limits is that German drivers are better disicplined and that is probably true, but after a brief period of carnage, I am sure US drivers would get it too. But unfortunately here in the US speed enforcement is too often more about revenue than true safety. If you drive the US interstates often you quickly realize the problem is not so much speeding as cars bunching up because of a left lane bandit doing the too low speed limit, and then other passing on the right or following too closely. In Germany that sort of thing just does not happen. The left lane is always open to allow traffic to flow.
I haven't had a ticket of any kind since 1985. Detectors provide little besides a false sense of security. If you want to avoid tickets use common sense and a vigilant eye (1/4 mile ahead and 1/4 mile behind you.) I can't tell you the number of times I've been running >80 or 90 with another car or two and I backed off for a hill crest, blind curve or suspicious looking car only to watch the other guy blow by me and get pinched. I just wonder what they're thinking. Use your head and the odds are in your favor.
Use your head + use a detector and they're even more in your favor. I drive about 45k miles per year, and I'd estimate that my V1 realistically saves me from a possible ticket at least once per week or so. Would I have gotten a ticket every one of those times? Gosh, I hope not. Would I have gotten at least 2-3 per year? I absolutely think so.
Using a detector and using your brain are not mutually exclusive activities. Use both and your odds improve dramatically.
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Two friends of mine have bought V1 detectors after riding with me and seeing my V1 pay for itself. One of those friends realises that it works in conjunction with the driver's brain: that friend hasn't got a ticket...
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