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I have used braided steel brake lines on a number of my motorcycles over the years and always had good results � the brakes feel stronger and I never had any problems with feeling as some people have intimated, in fact probably the opposite
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I have used braided steel brake lines on a number of my motorcycles over the years and always had good results � the brakes feel stronger and I never had any problems with feeling as some people have intimated, in fact probably the opposite
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I was told by my shop (when I was doing some club racing about 10 years ago) that I should change the steel lines every two years because you can't inpect the inside of the steel lines.
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Anyone else want to try them...I will get another set so you can leave your feedback.
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I was told by my shop (when I was doing some club racing about 10 years ago) that I should change the steel lines every two years because you can't inpect the inside of the steel lines.
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I have used braided steel brake lines on a number of my motorcycles over the years and always had good results � the brakes feel stronger and I never had any problems with feeling as some people have intimated, in fact probably the opposite
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I have used braided steel brake lines on a number of my motorcycles over the years and always had good results � the brakes feel stronger and I never had any problems with feeling as some people have intimated, in fact probably the opposite
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Don't know if anyone else has done these...but I just got my set of Agency Power steel braided brake lines. Anyone else put these on? Doing the install of these and my B&M shifter tomorrow.
Here is a pic of the lines -
Since you have already got them I will reserve judgement other than all the performance shops I have asked say to stay away from them since you cannot tell when the brake line is starting to deteriorate (line is shielded by the braid) as well there is less flex in the line.
braided are superior strength and dont flex, thereby providing stronger and more consistent braking..thats the point of getting them.
they are stainles steel, what deterioration do you mean?
They are NOT steel. They are steel braids over the regular lines. The steel braids help protect the lines and restrict flex. As for not flexing, you are correct but it is more difficult for the novice driver to get a feel for breaking because of the lack of flex.
Sorry, forgot to address the deterioration question. The deterioration, defect, or any damage to the brake line is not noticeable since it is shielded by the steel braid.
ss lines as i know them dont cover the rubber line...i havent heard of just a cover. on race cars and racebikes they are braided steel with teflon or PTFE inside
Flex...? Braking....???
Methinks the discussion should be about brake line "ballooning" under pressure. Steel braiding allows just as much of that as without.
I think steel braided brake lines are much more about preventing damage from road debris than having any real effect on braking dynmaics.
The lines are teflon with steel braided and a coating. The lines do not flex, that is why people put them on instead of the regular factory lines which are rubber and flex under pressure. The steel braided lines improve pedal response and braking, only positive things come from them. Anyone else want to try them...I will get another set so you can leave your feedback. All I can say is why do all big brake kits include them and why are they a highly sold aftermarket part. They work...!
Then the question I would ask is why doesn't Porsche have them on our cars? I would venture to say there is a reason. Now if the car is used for tracking most of the time, then I could understand.
But then again, inspection is impossible since the actual line is shielded from the braid thus requires you to change them more frequent in a proactive way to avoid catastrophic failure. I considered them listening to all the hype and realized that not many people used them nor did any of the performance (Porshe) shops around here reccommend them when I asked for their professional advice about putting them in when I put in my new reds (calipers).
I heard that since steel brake lines don't flex as much, the lines have a tenancy to loosen from the caliper over time. That is why they don't come as standard on any production car. Since race and track cars are looked over more frequently, its okay for race use. On a daily driver, the driver rarely if ever checks his brake lines(except for the nuts on this forum). I don't think that the tradeoff is really worth it. The benefit of higher pressure, etc. will prob only be felt at the limit of braking and driving, not in daily driving.
Bobby
vivid, are you here to advertise your business? I mean, I respect people using forums to get their business across, but I smell a bit of fishing here. I could be wrong.
I have stainless steel braided brake hoses on my GT3 (since this is a P car forum) without any negative side effects. I have run this type of hoses on all my street, race and track cars over the years and never had a problem. Should there be a fault of the teflon hose, it would show on the braiding as a "sweating" that collected dirt/dust. There is no risk of loosening or leak at the connection point to the brakeline and caliper since the connection is of banjo type.
vividracing trying to market his products is totally different issue.
Ciao,
Johannes E.
Not marketing at all! Go check the site they are not on there. I am super NEW to Porsche. We have been involved in JDM cars and trying to get others advice, opinions, and feedback. What works on other cars does not on these. I had a 450WHP EVO VIII amongst my other cars (RX8, 2 WRX's, R32, M3). With the turbo car you can put a turbo back exhaust on the car and gain 30WHP...with these cars not the same.
So I am just learning and asking questions
As far as advertising we have applied with the admin for a advertising contract, so we are playing by the rules when the time comes. thanks!
FWIW. I have used braided steel brake lines on a number of my motorcycles over the years and always had good results � the brakes feel stronger and I never had any problems with feeling as some people have intimated, in fact probably the opposite
I was told by my shop (when I was doing some club racing about 10 years ago) that I should change the steel lines every two years because you can't inpect the inside of the steel lines.
To the best of my memory, the brake paddle feel was not that much better then the rubber lines.
Now, that was my experience 10 years ago. Newer steel lines might be better now.
Just my 2 cents.
Kam
Check this site out.
http://www.nsxprime.com/FAQ/Performance/brakelines.htm
He does a good job of expalining the pros and cons of SS brake lines. If Ferrari, Porsche, M-series, AMG, etc aren't using them as stock I doubt I will. I don't think the safety to performance ratio is worth it. Imagine the law suit you would have on your hands after crashing into another car on a public street because your SS brake lines failed. Just don't want to deal with that for the marginal performance gain.
Bobby
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