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The Upside of RMS/ISS Replacement

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Replace when my rms

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When my RMS was replaced, they said they always do an oil change as part of the process.

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Sometimes they forget to put the new oil on the repair invoice, so people think it was reused because oil does not appear on the invoice.

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Sometimes they forget to put the new oil on the repair invoice, so people think it was reused because oil does not appear on the invoice.

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Repair the engine oil gets

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Suggestion · Original poster

As part of the RMS or ISS replacement and repair, the engine oil gets replaced.

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Replace costs about $50, ($80 if you

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Yeah, if you DIY, an Oil change costs about $50, ($80 if you change the pollen filter).

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Replace filter

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Chances are theyre going to refill the car with new oil but theyre not going to change the filter.

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Sometimes they forget to put the new oil on the repair invoice, so people think it was reused because oil does not appear on the invoice.

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Repair the engine oil gets

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Suggestion · Original poster

As part of the RMS or ISS replacement and repair, the engine oil gets replaced.

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Replace costs about $50, ($80 if you

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Suggestion · Original poster

Yeah, if you DIY, an Oil change costs about $50, ($80 if you change the pollen filter).

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Replace filter

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Chances are theyre going to refill the car with new oil but theyre not going to change the filter.

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Replace iis

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They will drain it and put your old oil back in, if they are changing the IIS.

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Replace oil at

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I request for them to change the oil at that time.

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Replace pollen filter)

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Suggestion · Original poster

Yeah, if you DIY, an Oil change costs about $50, ($80 if you change the pollen filter).

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Replace rms

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(Gosh I've had so many of them, I've got this down.) They actually don't even need to drain the oil when they replace the rms.

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Replace they said they would do it if i wanted

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When I said I wanted to confirm that it included the oil filter change, they said they would do it if I wanted, but would have to charge me for the filter element and O ring!

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Replace when my rms

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When my RMS was replaced, they said they always do an oil change as part of the process.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

As part of the RMS or ISS replacement and repair, the engine oil gets replaced. So the wise Porsche owner makes sure his RMS gets repaired at about 15K, 30K, and 45K and saves $500 that he was going to give the dealer to get the Oil changed! Since these things leak pretty reliably, and don't really cause any harm when they do, might as well put the inconvenience to some good use for free maintenance, and save some cash!

POST 2Original post

Wow... $500 eh? Is that what an oil change at the dealer goes for these days? Eek! I've heard that rms replacement runs around $800... it seems odd that a procedure that involves dropping the trans, complete clutch and flywheel removal, pounding in a new seal, and reassembly, is only $300 more than popping on a new filter and draining some oil? To me, $800 for rms sounds about right... The single most expensive part of my last oil change? The filter / o-ring and drain plug seal, around $15.00. And then 9qts of Mobil 1 at about $4.50/each. So, that's like, $60 or so ????? t

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Yeah, if you DIY, an Oil change costs about $50, ($80 if you change the pollen filter). But remember, the majority of P car owners that have the dealer change their oil are soft palmed Girlie-Men, and get in a total tither when the RMS issue comes up. These folks are the ones that could gain the most from synchronizing their Oil and RMS changes.

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That isn't always the case. Oil is not changed when the RMS is fixed. They will drain it and put your old oil back in, if they are changing the IIS. I request for them to change the oil at that time. (Gosh I've had so many of them, I've got this down.) They actually don't even need to drain the oil when they replace the rms. Go figure.

POST 5 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Robyn: I guess I must be special, cause, the 3 times they have been in my engine to mess with the seals, I have gotten new oil.

POST 6Original post

The main seal is above the oil level, so the oil does not need to be drained. The intermediate shaft seal is below the oil level so it needs to be drained. I have talked to the mechanics at my local dealer about this. If your oil is drained it goes into a big drum on wheels, where it is mixed with whatever else is in the drum. The oil is not reused. There is no way to get just your oil out of the drum. New oil is put in. Sometimes they forget to put the new oil on the repair invoice, so people think it was reused because oil does not appear on the invoice. This is a smaller version of the drum my dealer uses.

POST 7Original post

Well, you are an all around nice guy! However, I assume every dealer is different...I know TP stated that at his dealer they don't, but others do. So, it all varies.

POST 8Original post

Chances are theyre going to refill the car with new oil but theyre not going to change the filter.

POST 10Original post

When my RMS was replaced, they said they always do an oil change as part of the process. When I said I wanted to confirm that it included the oil filter change, they said they would do it if I wanted, but would have to charge me for the filter element and O ring! I told them they must be kidding, and the agreed to do it gratis...

POST 11Original post

orient express, is your car in one of griot's catalougue? nice. with regard to RMS, i had two (on different cars). both had ISS as well. they did oil and clutch for free. you need to find the right service advisor. robyn, we got the same advisor. maybe we should send eric something!

POST 12 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Yes it is. Thanks for the kind words. It is also featured in the ReJex brochure. We are also working a deal for it to be used in a Hollywood film as one of the good guys car.

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