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YOUR RESEARCHWhat Tyres did you put on your 2001 C2?
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It was a 1970 911 and we took that machine apart after every race and recall that we swapped tires on it all the time (depending on the track and weather).
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what do you plan to use the car for and in what conditions do you drive it
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It was a 1970 911 and we took that machine apart after every race and recall that we swapped tires on it all the time (depending on the track and weather).
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I bought a C2 4 years ago. It was a used certified cab and picked out of after a lot of research and selection process. The car came with a set of Dunlops SP Sport 9090. I don't know if these were N rated or not and I was oblivious to it, but after getting offers from strangers to buy the car, I decided to learn more about it and take care of it. I was part of a Porsche racing team many many years ago. It was a 1970 911 and we took that machine apart after every race and recall that we swapped tires on it all the time (depending on the track and weather). I don't think there was a N-rating back then. I don't want to discuss N-rating. I want to know what you put on yours, because when I got this car - I think it had the original tires (the tire code was DUNL) and the rear tires were gone (and noisy). A friend has a Cooper tire store, so I put Coopers on the rear (yes, Zeon 2xs Cooper) and I am at the wear bar after 7,000 miles, the front Dunlops are actually still in good shape, but now I want to put the same type on all 4 wheels.
I have done some research and found some documents (supposedly rom Porsche) that state that for a 2001 911 I should only put:
Pirelli P Zero Rosso - N4
Bridgestone Potenza S-02A - N2
Continental ContiSportContact2 - N3
Another Porsche document lists
Michelin Pilot Sport - N1
Most reviews I read, Porsche owners hate the top 3 (Pirelli, Potenza, Conti) and the Michelin is a N1. One of the best tires I've had before were Michelins, but those were not on a out-of-box performance car like a Porsche. Why would you put a N1 when I can get N4 or N5 on the car. I am really bothered by the fact that they don't make the tire that came with my car so Porsche ignores the the old cars or is this a warranty thing only? By the way, if will probably never put this car on the track, but I do want to be able to go Porsche fast and not worry about tire performance and safety.
Obviously, I was not thinking much about that when I put the Coopers and mixing tires like I did, but frankly - I have done some crazy things on those wheels and like you, I went "wow...that was amazing" and kept driving with a smile. Those Coopers were not any cheaper than buying say..Continentals.
What did you do or recommend? Thank you.
I think you'll be fine with a good quality tire that is the correct size for your vehicle. Michelin has a new tire called the Super Sport that many people are talking about. I'm planning to look at those when I buy new summer tires.
FWIW, I've always been pleased with Continental tires. I've had two sets on the Cayenne and I'll also consider them for the C4S next time.
I had the Sumitomo 3's. Great tire for the money....than I switched to the new Michelin Pilot Super Sports. Now that is a great tire for around $1100 for the set. They are not N rated..yet. The Pilot Sports are soon to be discontinued.
+1^, ditto, but I won't mount the new ones until the Spring, I will use up my Sumi III's at the last auto-x and my final DE in November (weather depending). GL
SUMI III are great tires for the money, can't go wrong with them.
Michelin are better but for more money.
Real question is how long the Michelin SS last compared to the Sumi III, under same use...
Good question Phil. I was resigned to a Summer with the rear Sumi's. This included 3-4 DE's. By the time last DE came the tires were on its last legs. I have 1 DE with the PSS and they seem to wear fairly even. No chunking either. Like you I'm curious too.
I just took my Sumis off for the winter, and they are done. I'll be buying something this winter to put on next May. I'm really interested in the Michelins...
2001 C2, 10,000 miles per year, 5 DEs per year.
Started with michelin pilot sport AS/plus...great tires...lasted 22,000mi and 5 DEs
Put on Michelin Pilot Super Sports a couple months ago....awesome on the track and road....
I think you are misunderstanding how the Porsche spec system works. The N4 Michelin Pilot Sports are approved for you car.
I have MSP's on both of my cars and I love 'em. I have tried both P-Zero's and Conti's in the past and I like the Michelins a lot more.
Good luck.
The shop that did my suspension work is a huge fan of the Yoko Advan 08 vs. Michelin. He feels that the Michelins are noted for much softer sidewalls and hence there reaction time for turning has a bit if a delay, as the suspension sets, then the tires finally sets. He is a big fan of the Yoko 08's as they have a stiffer sidewall. Having said that, he primarily works with P-cars and guys who race. For street use, he says Michelins are fine. Also, the new Super Sports, claim to last a lot longer (15K miles with different front v. rear fitaments siince they can't be rotated evenly). When I asked Tire Rack about N spec Super Sports before I bought mine, he said it may be in the Spring and an N-spec tire means different construction and that would make the Super Sports even more expensive.
