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none of the bearings have grease in them

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The problem is none of the bearings have grease in them....

I have a new desk ornament..
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If ANYONE wants magnified photos of the insides of their bearing, I offer that - the seal has to come off and I clean them thru a 4 step cleaning process...

I have a new desk ornament..
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Replace motor.....even it had some

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then the owner told us "the rest of the story" - it was a replaced motor.....even it had some.

I have a new desk ornament..

simple, the reason might be complicated

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anyhow its all spectulation and I am no scientist, but the problem is simple, the reason might be complicated.

I have a new desk ornament..

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If ANYONE wants magnified photos of the insides of their bearing, I offer that - the seal has to come off and I clean them thru a 4 step cleaning process...

I have a new desk ornament..

Recommend him

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You can tell him that John with the black 996 cab (just got an LNE installed) recommended him.

I have a new desk ornament..
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If ANYONE wants magnified photos of the insides of their bearing, I offer that - the seal has to come off and I clean them thru a 4 step cleaning process...

I have a new desk ornament..

Recommend him

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You can tell him that John with the black 996 cab (just got an LNE installed) recommended him.

I have a new desk ornament..

Replace interval, oil brand, how its

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so rather its oil change interval, oil brand, how its used or something else...

I have a new desk ornament..

Replace motor.....even it had some

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then the owner told us "the rest of the story" - it was a replaced motor.....even it had some.

I have a new desk ornament..
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none of the bearings have grease in them

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The problem is none of the bearings have grease in them....

I have a new desk ornament..

simple, the reason might be complicated

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anyhow its all spectulation and I am no scientist, but the problem is simple, the reason might be complicated.

I have a new desk ornament..
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

New Clutch, LNE IMS, RMS, Rear outer driver's CV boot, alignment, oil service. $2400. My car has just under 60k miles. Had quite a few heat spots on the flywheel. Clutch was stiff but not dead. This will give me peace of mind and now I can enjoy my new car.

POST 5 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

aka poor man's Rolex Submariner

POST 6Original post

All of that installed was $2400? Not bad at all. Did you do the AOS?

POST 7 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Yeah I think I got a really good deal. I believe the AOS was done recently by the previous owner. Although it was probably just the bellows.

POST 10Original post

New Clutch, LNE IMS, RMS, Rear outer driver's CV boot, alignment, oil service. $2400. that seems like a cheap price, never brought my car to the dealer but that some big jobs... ???

POST 11Original post

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+1 That is a fantastic price. Almost too cheap in my opinion.

POST 12Original post

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You know there are people that can cut these keys from pics right??

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I love the fact that people are pulling out the bearing of death and displaying them as trophies !! If ANYONE wants magnified photos of the insides of their bearing, I offer that - the seal has to come off and I clean them thru a 4 step cleaning process... when dont they dont smell like oil anymore so are nice to have on the desk....done about 20+ at this point

POST 14Original post

And after 20+ cleanings and magnifications...how many were 'bad' enough to warrant replacement in your opinion Ed? Just curious.

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its strange, they ALL had some level of degradation. The best one I saw saw on a low mile car which had me confused... then the owner told us "the rest of the story" - it was a replaced motor.....even it had some. what I believe is going on is that the grease is being replaced with motor oil thru some sort of thermal pressure inside the IMS tube from heating and cooling. (remember sealed bearing = sealed tube full of air) - the grease is gone (and ALL of them have zero grease, only oil) i theorize that the oil has contaminants like hydrocarbons and fuel,, maybe it is oil dependant... but something in the oil is causing a chemical etching on the ***** and races - over time etching eats away the "hardness" and then the ball degrade much faster. I think sitting long periods leaves one ball (or a couple) sitting in whatever is causing the etching longer then the others so the process is sped up on that ball....once the ball begins to flake the flakes effect the other ***** and then the hardend area is compromissed on all the *****... I have seen a lot of heavy scratching of the hard ***** and the only thing I can figure is it is some other hard material... like from another ball. We still think spinning the motor is the best way to keep down the degradation...though we have not figured out the reasons we think it is just due to the load on the ***** against the race - they are "floating" more then running in the groove... anyhow its all spectulation and I am no scientist, but the problem is simple, the reason might be complicated. The problem is none of the bearings have grease in them.... none of them, some last a LONG time this way, some dont.... so rather its oil change interval, oil brand, how its used or something else... I am still pretty much just guessing....

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You're right, I asked what you thought and got an answer, thanks. Not trying to once again debate the the replacement process.

POST 19Original post

I think not, the porsche dealer couldn't even get it right. IMS Upgrade... peace of mind... wouldn't go without it.

POST 20Original post

No hi tech camera, but here is pics of my ims bearing 82k km (50k miles roughly)

POST 21Original post

Jwar, Who did the work? I'm gonna be in the market for a clutch soon.

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Autobahn Autosport. Ask for Hans. You can tell him that John with the black 996 cab (just got an LNE installed) recommended him. http://www.autobahnautosport.com I shopped around for awhile and only a few places in town are really qualified to do this kind of work - most of them are very expensive. Beck's has a very good reputation and Zuffenhausen was personally recommended to me. But in the end I went with Autobahn because of their price. So far I'm very happy.

POST 24Original post

The 42 mm Planet Ocean is a great watch. So is the new Rolex Ceramic Sub. I'm more of a Speedmaster Pro guy myself. S'far as the IMS bearings though...meh not so much.

POST 25Original post

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The Omega's PO Co-Axial movement is a very nice COSC certified movement. I prefer the Speedmaster myself too but had to step away and sell a few watches to fund my current Porsche.

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