90K Service

I just hit 90K and know I need to get the service done but I don't know what is included nor the anticipated cost. Anybody have any info?

Carrera/GT3 (996) Maintenance Schedules - Major Maintenance US (up to MY02) Major maintenance after: 30,000, 60,000, 90,000, 120,000 miles etc. (48,000, 96,000, 144,000, 192,000 km etc.) OK Diagnosis system: Read out fault memory Polyrib belt: Check condition Change the engine oil and oil filter Replace the spark plugs Vehicle underside and engine compartment: Visual inspection for leaks (oils and fluids) and abrasion (lines and hoses) Underbody panels: visual inspection for completeness, installation and damage Coolant hoses: Check condition; Radiators and air inlets at front: Visual inspection for external contamination and blockage; Coolant: Check the level and antifreeze protection Air cleaner: Replace the filter element Particle filter: Replace the filter element Fuel system: Visual inspection for damage, routing and secure fit of line connections Power steering: Check the fluid level and bellows Parking brake: Checking the free play of the parking brake lever Brake system: Visual inspection of the brake pads and brake discs for wear Brake hoses and lines: Visual inspection for damage, routing and corrosion. Checking the brake fluid level Clutch: Check the play and pedal end position Throttle actuation: Check smooth operation, check the full throttle position with the Tester Steering gear: Visually inspect the bellows for damage Tie rod joints: Check the play and dust bellows Axle joints: Check play, visual inspection of dust bellows for damage, check screw connections of running gear adjustment facility, front and rear, for secure fit Drive shafts: Perform a visual inspection of the boots for leaks and damage Exhaust system: Visual inspection for leaks and damage, check suspension Tires and spare wheel (collapsible wheel): Check the condition and the tire pressure Check the door locks, lid locks and safety hooks of the front lid to ensure that they are secure and functioning properly: Check lid lock, front and rear; Check safety hook, front lid; Function test, check door lock; Check door and lid tightening torques Seat belts: Check function and condition Vehicle lighting: Check function; All headlights: Check adjustment; Horn: Check operation. Windscreen wiper/washer system, headlight washer: Check fluid level and nozzle settings, pay attention to antifreeze protection in the winter months. Electrical equipment as well as warning and indicator lights: Check operation. Test drive: Remote control, front seats, foot and parking brakes (also actuation travel), engine, clutch, steering, transmission, ParkAssist, automatic speed control, TC/PSM switch, heating, air-conditioning system and instruments: Check operation. Oils, fluids: Visual inspection for leaks Important Notes: The term "checking" includes all necessary subsequent work such as adjusting, readjusting, correcting and topping up, but does not include repairing, replacing and reconditioning parts or assemblies. � The maintenance item Throttle actuation: Check smooth operation, check full throttle position with the Tester is omitted as of model year 2002. � The maintenance item Replace the spark plugs depends on the model year. Please see Additional Maintenance

Additional maintenance every 90,000 miles (144,000 km) OK Manual transmission: - Changing transmission oil Automatic transmission: Replace ATF or Replace ATF (as of 2002) Replace ATF filter or Replace ATF filter (as of 2002) Change transmission oil in final drive or Change transmission oil in final drive (as of 2002) Final drive, front: Change transmission oil in front wheel drive

Thanks for that! Any idea on cost? 60K was around $1200.

I just got a couple of quotes for a 30K service in Atlanta and they came in at $1358 and $1100 (after discount coupons) at the dealerships. A local indy that was recommended quoted me $800 so I'll see if I can negotiate the dealer price at all based on the lower number and if not take it there. I tried calling the Indianapolis dealer for a reference price but Jeremy had already left for the day. The $800 number at the independent seems fair based on what's covered. One of the dealers also covered cleaning the radiators but I don't know how thorough a job it would have been.

I had my 90K service done at a Porsche dealer last year for $1,222.50.

DIY

I have read conflicting information about the '03 90k service, perhaps it can be cleared up here. Are the plugs to be replaced 90k or should they be done at 120k?

They were replaced on my '02 at the 90K service.

My 04 plugs were replace on my 60k visit.

As you can see by reading the list, most of the service is time spent looking for problems. I think of it as paying the dealer to find things they can charge you even more for.Now, if they really do all the inspections it is pretty thorough, but it it still a little like asking the dealer if they can find anything wrong with the car that they can charge you to fix. IMHO

So from the consensus looks like this a DIY. Change fluids and filters and plugs. General up keep. I can do this. Thanks guys!

just make sure and print out the list (available on renntech) check them off and sign/date it, then sign the logbook in the back of the manual (IMO) keep it with your records

Under the additional services, it states that for MY01 and older, spark plugs should be done every 60k or 4 years. Mine were done @58k in February of 07. So despite only have 30k on then, the 4 years have lapsed. http://www.renntech.org/forums/index...o=maint_us_add

I just ordered plugs and tubes (and a poly-rib belt). When I get around to changing those, I'll take video. (But first I'm rebuilding brake calipers and doing some maintenance to my race car on the lift...)

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Your vids are cult favorites in my book. How about doing one on rebuilding the calipers too?

If you want an unbiased second opinion to look over your car, I'd be happy to help too. I'm a big fan of DIY 30k services since they are mostly just checking.

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I plan to - I don't know how different 944 calipers are from the 996... they're two piece as opposed to mono-block. And I don't know if they have a scraper ring or a dust boot, but I imagine it'll be close enough to give people the idea.

DIY 100% everything on that list. Too easy! It will cost you parts and that's it.

I am fairly certain Renntech missed the part on the 90K service where the seats HAVE TO COME OUT

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Thanks......just don't cost me extra cash.

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Hint Hint.....point taken. If it is warm I'm goin' in.

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Just finished 30k service about 10 minutes ago. $80 for pollen filter (because I picked it up at the dealer while I was getting a lug lock)...about 5 minutes to change it last week-end. $150 Oil Change at Mobile 1...while I was next door eating BBQ for lunch. Oh yeah...then I looked at a bunch of stuff on the car for cracks, oil, leaking fluids, small animals, etc. $230.

I need to do a 30K service as well but will probably use the dealer as all my tools are still in Indiana. I do miss California and the prices I got there for some things - like $88 oil changes (at the dealer no less) and regular discounts. The dealers here seem to be in cahoots with each other as they both charge $200+ for a basic oil change I may still decide to buy an oil pan and inexpensive filter wrench to save the extra $100 for this as I do at least have my torque wrenches with me and a basic tool set. I would however need to buy stuff to do the plugs and don't have alternative transportation readily available if anything additional should be needed. Still waffling as I really don't want to spend $1050 on a full 30K (includes plug change) but even the indie wants $500 for just plugs & oil change and $900 for a full 30K service. At least the dealer throws in a loaner for their price and I'n need a rental going the indie route.