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YOUR RESEARCHZaino Ultimate Protection Show Car Kit
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Use different brand
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I think I use a different brand for each stage and they all work together.
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90% preperation (clean, polish) and 10 % wax that makes it shine.
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Use of internet acronyms....that was rather poor of me
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On another note...if I am allowed by the thread poster...I appologize for the use of internet acronyms....that was rather poor of me.
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its not better than all the others. I doubt a seasoned car guy could tell the diference between an equally prepared p-car with Zaino, Poorboys, FinishKare or Menzerma. They all produce top notch results with differing level of durability and ease of use.
Zaino is not as flexible in working with non-Zaino products as other brands. A deal breaker for me because I like to mix brands. I find it hard to believe that one brand will make the best product at each stage. I think I use a different brand for each stage and they all work together.
I guess using Zaino is like using a Mac vs. PC, except that Mac is actually better than its competitors.
p.s.
another Zaino deal breaker is no 1-800 number for product questions.
Kind of ridiculous for a top recognized brand.
yes Zaino has very good durability, certainly compared to over the counter stuff like Meguiars or Mothers but I highly doubt Zaino has anymore shine the its direct boutique competitors. But at $130 this kit is a good value and will last a long time.
last time i order from NJ, i had to deal with company in PA.
H. Carl Voellm
HCV Industries Inc.
www.hcvind.com
they seem to know what they are doing/selling. and happy spending time on the phone with me as well.
WTF you have trouble finding this?
http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/...y_Code=Contact
Sal Zaino will talk to you any time...he is very knowledgable and helpful.
I tried many different kinds of carnubas (e.g., P21S) and sealants (e.g., Klasse AIO) and have found Zaino to be the best appearance and lasting, IMHO!
I think you'll notice there is a 732 area code for product questions ONLY.
for placing orders the 1-800 is free and never busy.
I had a question and the woman on the order line said I could call long distance if I had
specific questions. to use your language... WTF?
I said thank you and called another seller who talked my ear off at his cost. I've since placed
many orders. This detailing business can be confusing for newbies and with so many products in their line up its plain dumb.
Well excuse meeee! I actually was providing a counter to the shot taken about lack of support for Zaino which is the product you, a non-member, is trying to sell.
On another note...if I am allowed by the thread poster...I appologize for the use of internet acronyms....that was rather poor of me. Mr. perfectlap is correct about the difficulty newbies may have with the plethora of products available.
His advice to try Autopia.org or detailcity.org is a good one. I already have enough Zaino for a couple of years.
Cheers.
Your thread? You mean the one you posted with items for sale on a site that you do NOT support and by posting a for sale posting that by the way has NOTHING to do with 996's in the 996 forum 100% voilates the Rennlist policy of posting for sale items by NON rennlist members.
Honestly I could care less that you think you're supporting a site with "giving input". The point is you are participating in a forum that has rules set forth by the owners of this site and you have violated them. And during the course of this you had the nerve to reprimand another member that made a remark that you didn't want to hear regarding the product you are trying to hock.
Dell's totally right. Not only does this thread belong in the concours or classifieds section, I had thought that non-members and/or non-sponsors weren't allowed to sell anything on here. It's nothing personal, it's just to keep the threads from becoming eBay ads.
I still dont see how this is a reprimand: "Perhaps you guys can take your arguement offline or at least off my thread please?" I thought I was kindly asking...
Anyway, I think the title & topic of this thread is now within the guidelines of this forum.
Ziano claim to fame is its durability. However ziano stuff does not bond with other polishes well thus it makes you use their stuff. Just remember a wax is not what makes the car look good, its removal of contamination and swrills that makes it look good. 90% preperation (clean, polish) and 10 % wax that makes it shine. I personally don't like Ziano look as with most long lasting synthetics it looks sterile or like a plastic sheet over the top. I perfer the deepth of a natural wax better, but they don't last as long. There are synthetics that looks more like a carnuba, but they don't last as long as Ziano. These are Blackfire, Wolfgang, or OTC stuff like Mother reflections or NXT. Some of my favorites are Einzette and Menzerma for polishes, but I never tried Menzerma FMJ as its suppose to be a long lasting synthetic that looks like a carnuba. You have to decide what do you wax out of your wax. The best place for info is Autopia.org.
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