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YOUR RESEARCHgimmie your advice on two buy candidates
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For example, I have friend a work that has 2001 Toyota Camry that has had 2 ECU replaced, the transmission replaced, a drive shaft/axle replaced, and the A/C worked on extensively, and now has some type of engine knock they can't diagnose.
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For example, I have friend a work that has 2001 Toyota Camry that has had 2 ECU replaced, the transmission replaced, a drive shaft/axle replaced, and the A/C worked on extensively, and now has some type of engine knock they can't diagnose.
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If you are a convertible guy get a convertible, because in the long run the coupe will not make you happy, just like a convertible would not make me happy in the long run (been there done that with a Boxster).
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For example, I have friend a work that has 2001 Toyota Camry that has had 2 ECU replaced, the transmission replaced, a drive shaft/axle replaced, and the A/C worked on extensively, and now has some type of engine knock they can't diagnose.
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For example, I have friend a work that has 2001 Toyota Camry that has had 2 ECU replaced, the transmission replaced, a drive shaft/axle replaced, and the A/C worked on extensively, and now has some type of engine knock they can't diagnose.
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If you are a convertible guy get a convertible, because in the long run the coupe will not make you happy, just like a convertible would not make me happy in the long run (been there done that with a Boxster).
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2002 Coupe VS. Cabriolet?
Coupe 13,000 miles w/ 2.5 year warranty
Cabriolet 21,000 miles 7month warranty
Both deals have been cut for $50,000 even
I really want a convertable but the coupe has fewer miles and much better warranty. VINs run on both w/ no major ploblems. Although Cabriolet transmission recalled and replaced to the tune of $9,000 under warranty.
What do you guys think.
Thanks,
Skipp
$50K is a pretty good price for either car (at least for Atlanta).
You need to pony up a few hundred $ for a good PPI. I didn't and it cost me $2K in unexpected, immediate repairs.
I'm not as familiar with the technical details of the '02 model since mine is an '00, but I think you will get a stiffer frame with the coupe and it is lighter. If you are looking for pure performance I'd go for the coupe.
The longer warranty is attractive on the coupe, but really if you plan to drive the car every day you should be able to identify any problems with the Cab in the first 6 months and get them fixed free.
Where are you anyway? If you are in a temperate climate you will get more days to enjoy the top down than if you are up North.
I love my Cab, but I'm more into performance than looks and I'd trade it for an '02 C4S in a heartbeat (like THAT is going to happen).
You're going to love either car, so don't stress.
I'm in Charlotte right up the road from you. It will be my daily driver and I have a convertable now. I can't give up the fresh air, plu I'm not headed to the track. The warranty is the only issue to me. You think it's gonna screw up much in the next two years?
Thanks,
Skipp
I bought my 01 Cab w/58K miles on it with no warranty. I've had it for 10 months & so far (knock on wood) I haven't had any problems. I think the Cab. (especially for the price) is the way to go. It is totally one cool ride if you're into ragtops! I love mine! Go for the one you feel is best, but I think the price is very fair on both! You can also buy more warranty & some of the people on this board have some really good knowledge/feedback on this topic. This is a really good board with most everyone willing to help you!
I would take the cab
If both come out of PPI with nothing, then go for what you really want!
You will regret it every day when driving in the coupe, wishing you bought the cab instead. (Thats what I do at the moment - next car will be a speed yellow cab instead of my silver coupe)
Sounds like you want the Cab - get the ppi done (pm me if you want a good CLT source) and if buying from dealer - I'd suggest the extended warranty if available.
If he wants a cab, then get a cab! If this one is too high on milage or not enough warranty, then look for another one. There are tons of good cars out there.
You can mod a car to your taste, but you cannot remove the roof. So buy the base model that you want, and then the rest is less important.
Don't get the coupe. Here is why....
You want the convert. If you don't get one you will think 6 months down the road...I should have got the convertible. If you are a convertible guy get a convertible, because in the long run the coupe will not make you happy, just like a convertible would not make me happy in the long run (been there done that with a Boxster).
No offense intended, but from your other post you need to get comfortable with Porsche and/or any higher end sports car....and their POTENTIAL problems (read...not guaranteed problems) and the cost of ownership. Every model of car has horror stories of problems and lemons but that does not mean all are problem riddled cars. For example, I have friend a work that has 2001 Toyota Camry that has had 2 ECU replaced, the transmission replaced, a drive shaft/axle replaced, and the A/C worked on extensively, and now has some type of engine knock they can't diagnose. If you didn't know otherwise you would think the Camry is a horroribly expensive car to drive. At the same time you read that the newer BMW's (e46 for example) are maintenance nightmares, but my wife's with 85k miles has given us very few problems in all that mileage, while my mother and father just had to have the autotransmission of their "bullet proof" Honda Accord rebuilt at 90k miles.
Don't get me wrong, I am not saying just jump in and buy Porsche withou doing any due diligence. Instead go into the deal with your eyes wide open knowing what the potential problems could be and do your best to minimize the potential problems.
Get the cab. When it comes down to it, it's a choice of what you want versus what it costs. The warranty is just a cost thing. Don't get the coupe just because you're worried about spending money on repairs -- that's $50k out the door on something you don't really want. Get the cab, pretend it actually cost $55k, and put the extra $5k in the bank for a rainy day repair.
BTW, there were some bad trannys due to a bad batch of synchros and I think they fell into the 02-03 production, so it may have been one of those that caused the tranny replacement.
go cab - 20000 miles is nothing on these cars - i wanted a cab but was sometimes drawn to the lower prices on the hard tops - but I waited, bought the cab, and am super pleased - the hard tops are great, but you should go with what you were drawn to to begin with...
I bought a cab....while having the option of a newer coupe.....but the cab (if you don't race) is the way to go...buy a hardtop and you are good year'round.
buy an extended warranty, that what I did (just for the piece of mind)