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2002 996 c2 bye bye engine, hello c4s engine - advise please!

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YOUR RESEARCH2002 996 c2 bye bye engine, hello c4s engine - advise please!

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Check on the valves/pistons/cylinder walls

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Pull the plugs (replace them) use a bore scope to look inside and check on the valves/pistons/cylinder walls.

2002 996 c2 bye bye engine, hello c4s engine - advise please!
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Check plugs etc

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Clean it and while,out replace the normal wear items- ie AOS, water pump , check plugs etc.

2002 996 c2 bye bye engine, hello c4s engine - advise please!

Check these items

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All of this seems overkill but since the engine is out, it never gets cheaper to check these items!

2002 996 c2 bye bye engine, hello c4s engine - advise please!

Replace air oil separator

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Wash the engine before installation, replace the AOS.

2002 996 c2 bye bye engine, hello c4s engine - advise please!

Replace any collapsed ones while you have the engine out

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It is an ideal time to replace any collapsed ones while you have the engine out.

2002 996 c2 bye bye engine, hello c4s engine - advise please!
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Check on the valves/pistons/cylinder walls

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Pull the plugs (replace them) use a bore scope to look inside and check on the valves/pistons/cylinder walls.

2002 996 c2 bye bye engine, hello c4s engine - advise please!

Check plugs etc

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Suggestion

Clean it and while,out replace the normal wear items- ie AOS, water pump , check plugs etc.

2002 996 c2 bye bye engine, hello c4s engine - advise please!

Check these items

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All of this seems overkill but since the engine is out, it never gets cheaper to check these items!

2002 996 c2 bye bye engine, hello c4s engine - advise please!

Replace air oil separator

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Wash the engine before installation, replace the AOS.

2002 996 c2 bye bye engine, hello c4s engine - advise please!

Replace any collapsed ones while you have the engine out

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It is an ideal time to replace any collapsed ones while you have the engine out.

2002 996 c2 bye bye engine, hello c4s engine - advise please!

Replace baffles if they look beat

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Replace the baffles if they look beat.

2002 996 c2 bye bye engine, hello c4s engine - advise please!

Replace normal wear items- ie aos, water pump

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Clean it and while,out replace the normal wear items- ie AOS, water pump , check plugs etc.

2002 996 c2 bye bye engine, hello c4s engine - advise please!

Replace noted wear items

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Since the engine is out of the car I would replace all noted wear items that I could.

2002 996 c2 bye bye engine, hello c4s engine - advise please!

Use bore scope

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Suggestion

Pull the plugs (replace them) use a bore scope to look inside and check on the valves/pistons/cylinder walls.

2002 996 c2 bye bye engine, hello c4s engine - advise please!
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There is no difference in the engine between a C4S and a C2.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hey all, So this would be my first post. I recently bought my buddies 02 996 c2 with a blown engine. The engine is dropped and I've been searching for a replacement for quite some time now until I came across this: 2002 Porsche Carrera 4S Coupe 3.6 75,227 - YouTube 2002 Porsche Carrera 4S Coupe 3.6 75,227 - YouTube So I bought it for $6850, shipping it to Buffalo, NY and I'll be picking it up from there (carrying it over to Toronto). I know the deed is done so there is no point in asking but I couldn't help but post my questions and ask ya'll for some words of wisdom. 1) Are there any compatibility issues I should watch out for? 2) What do you guys think of that engine (the video link is a running video of it) 3) How can I check if this engine has done the IMS swap (or should I not bother with it considering the engine has 75k and the ims would of gone by now if it were planning on going bad) 4) What can I do to the engine to capitalize on the face that it isnt installed yet? For example Should I have my tech powerwash it or just leave it as is 5) Is the slight ticking sound normal in the car? ( it goes away when the engine is revved) Sounds like tappets to me. Should I be concerned? Does the cost of fixing this tapping sound outweigh the benefits of repair? 6) This engine did not come with the engine computer nor the ignition computer, would there be compatibility issues with my 996 c2s existing engine/ignition computer? Thanks in advance for any help fellas! Excited to pick the engine up and get this project going!

POST 2Original post

ims is a wear item, replace it! Clean it and while,out replace the normal wear items- ie AOS, water pump , check plugs etc. I would have an Indy go over it carefully to ensure all is well before you put it in.

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks Hyper! Any compatibility issues I should watch out for?

POST 4 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Oh and anyone know how to check if the ims has been replaced? I have no way of contacting the old owner as I purchased it through a third party

POST 5Original post

As Hyper911 stated, the IMS is a wear item. Since the engine is out of the car I would replace all noted wear items that I could.

POST 6Original post

Take a picture of the IMS bearing flange, it will tell you if its original or not. Wash the engine before installation, replace the AOS. Do you have the original engine? What exactly went on it? I pulled and refreshed my 99 last summer and am local to you, if you need help, let me know.

POST 7Original post

I'd have a M96 specialist go over the engine completely before install. Pull the plugs (replace them) use a bore scope to look inside and check on the valves/pistons/cylinder walls. Replace the Air oil separator, water pump, and if the ticking sound is bad lifters, now would be an ideal time to replace them before installing. IMS replacement & RMS replacement should be done as well. And take the sump plate off the engine so you can check the oil baffles and make sure the oil pickup is not clogged with any debris. Replace the baffles if they look beat. You have an opportunity to "do it once and do it right". I'd take it.

POST 8 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks guys, any recommendations on a Porsche parts supplier here in Toronto that is reasonably priced? AOS + IMS from what I'm reading are the two main parts I need to procure and install before mounting the engine. Thanks again fellas!

POST 9Original post

Go with Roger at 928RuS in Texas. The is great and can get any Porsche part and the shipping will be very little.

POST 10Original post

looks like he is on his way .. new we sent him to the right place Imre .. hand off from the 911 forum complete ..

POST 11Original post

Quotes source post: 10542729

First, engine is overpriced for the number of miles. You can get better deals elsewhere. Try Oklahoma Foreign for one. As long as it is not an X51 option, it is exactly the same engine as your car come with. In fact, it is the same from airbox to the mufflers. There is no difference in the engine between a C4S and a C2. You should be able to plug in your oem harness, computer and it should run fine.

POST 12Original post

Quotes source post: 10548525

Not for nothin', but how is this helpful, and when is that kind of comment ever appropriate?

POST 13Original post

Also think about putting a new oil cooler on it. Who knows what kind of gunk is in there.

POST 14Original post

Take a look at the plug coils for cracks. Replace if you see any. Note that lifters are expensive. Especially on the vario-cam side (intake). BUT! It is an ideal time to replace any collapsed ones while you have the engine out. Easy access! Another thought...look at the clutch/throw out bearing/pilot bearing/pressure plate/flywheel (dual mass flywheel should "wind-up" a 1/2 inch or so and unwind on its own if good). All of this seems overkill but since the engine is out, it never gets cheaper to check these items!

POST 15Original post

Quotes source post: 10548585

Because the next guy who has to do it will know.

POST 16 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 10548525

Thanks for the advise, i gave Oklahoma Foreign a search - they have an 03 engine with 79k miles for 9 grand so to me looks like I am paying what I should be. Of course it would be nicer to catch a steal but to be honest I just wanna get this puppy on the road at this point. How can I check if it is the x51 option? Unfortunately I bought the engine from someone who isn't really all that knowledgeable so I'd have to get all the checks done myself.

POST 17 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

rennlist has an awesome community, glad I signed up - thank you all for your input! Engine is on it's way and I'll keep ya'll posted on the progress!

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