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He told me that it was the number one complaint about the car.

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Replace air filters

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What blew me away was the fact that it is one hour of labor to access the back of the engine for simple things like changing the air filters.

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I don't understand why she changed all of the sudden.

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Replace air filters

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What blew me away was the fact that it is one hour of labor to access the back of the engine for simple things like changing the air filters.

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Replace they're still the same; a beautiful sports car

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As much as they change they're still the same; a beautiful sports car.

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Run vehicle

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In the end I had to sell it as a non-running vehicle because when I was in the process of moving to New York it blew the engine!

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What blew me away was the fact that it is one hour of labor to access the back of the engine for simple things like changing the air filters.

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I don't understand why she changed all of the sudden.

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Replace they're still the same; a beautiful sports car

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As much as they change they're still the same; a beautiful sports car.

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In the end I had to sell it as a non-running vehicle because when I was in the process of moving to New York it blew the engine!

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Set me back quite a bit so i held off

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The repairs set me back quite a bit so I held off on the Porsche purchase until I moved to NYC and was able to purchase my 944 S2.

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Test drive of the turbo

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Between my test drive of the turbo from a couple of weeks ago to being quite impressed by the 991, my Cabrio is getting a little jealous!

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Test drive one and loved it

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So I went to a dealer to test drive one and loved it.

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Test features

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See if the dealer will let you and your friends test all the features

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He told me that it was the number one complaint about the car.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I attended the local launch event at Hendrick Porsche in Charlotte to check out the 991. I've read all of the online reviews and of course like anything new they have been mixed. The event was nicely put as they had a red carpet out for us and drinks plus appetizers. They let the PCA members in 30 minutes earlier so we were able to get a sneak peak in one of the service bays before the general public. From the casual observer's perspective, it doesn't appear to be that much different than the 997. I know as an enthusiast we will see the differences but unless you have an eye for it, it still looks like a Carerra. The interior was nicely optioned so as a daily driver I would love to be behind the wheel. As a track car though, I'd rather take the 964 RS America they had parked out front as one of the six other generations of 911s that they were displaying. The sticker on this one was $122k...ouch! But it really is a gorgeous car even if you can't see the engine. I was pretty happy to be behind the wheel Now to make this relevant to the 996 board, after I got my car back from the valet, my oil pressure gauge was bouncing around! Now given that my car was probably one of the lowest in horsepower of those in attendance yesterday, I don't think it was abused but who knows. It was acting strange the whole drive back home. This morning though it appeared to be ok but I guess I have to do a search and see what I need to fix... A couple of pics:

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I think the 991 looks very much like a 911. I like the car....and if I had $122K to spend on a car it would be top of my list.

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That's my thought as well. Just think you can buy an entire city block in Detroit for less than a new 911!

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I went to our launch last week. I liked the car a lot. They had 8 cars on the floor, ranging from a 73 RS to the 991, it was nicely done. I'm still adjusting to my new (to me) 996. I drove an 83 for 3 years and the 996 feels soft and huge, but I'm getting more comfortable each drive. As the 911 progresses it "evolves". As much as they change they're still the same; a beautiful sports car.

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Fernando, I think your 996 was angry at you. I have been looking at a second car to replace my 00 Cab, and wouldnt you know, as I closed the drivers door on the Cab tonight at a VW dealership, somehow my frickin index finger got caught and now I have a nice black and blue cracked finger!!

POST 6Original post

I bought four of them. One each for me , my wife, and my two sons. When I went to reach into my pocket for my checkbook, I realized I was naked. A short time later, the alarm clock went off.

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On a related note, my wife was perfectly happy with me until she found me staring at other hot new models at a strip club. Before I went everything was good. Then, somehow, she saw me walk out and acted strange the whole drive home. I don't understand why she changed all of the sudden. Lol at Bill's dream.

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I had a 944 S2 for quite some time before moving to the 996. I also felt it was much softer and bigger than my previous vehicle. But even so it still has superior performance and a few additional modern amenities (like a working air conditioner!). It's my understanding the soft nature of our cars can be easily transformed just by changing out the suspension. Mine is still stock but if I keep it that's my next move. Years ago I lived in Tampa, FL and I was really wanting a Porsche. At that time the 968s were getting down into my price range. So I went to a dealer to test drive one and loved it. On the way home my always reliable 1992 VW GTi decided to just completely die on me on the return trip. I think it knew what I was thinking. The repairs set me back quite a bit so I held off on the Porsche purchase until I moved to NYC and was able to purchase my 944 S2. In the end I had to sell it as a non-running vehicle because when I was in the process of moving to New York it blew the engine! So yeah, I think cars know when something is going on. Between my test drive of the turbo from a couple of weeks ago to being quite impressed by the 991, my Cabrio is getting a little jealous! I can't even begin to tell you the types of dreams I have before the alarm clock goes off... Do you know how many times I've woken up so disappointed that the joy of winning the lottery wasn't actually real? Talk about crashing back down to earth! And that's the reason we mostly refer to our vehicles as females! Why else would they be so temperamental???

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Sorry, but I still cannot get over that sunroof design!!! Looks so bolt in with it opening from the outside.

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See if the dealer will let you and your friends test all the features

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Does that really work?

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Yes, found out yesterday after wondering for a long time that it does in fact work. I didn't try that bottle from the side and not sure if it would fit that way. There does seem to be slippage and multiple attempts needed at this printing......or should I say under the conditions yesterday evening.

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I'm surprised by it too. Everything else seems to be so thoroughly thought out yet with the sunroof they go back to the 944 design! Love that feature ...as long as I don't forget to remove the bottle when closing the door!

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I saw one this morning at Porsche North Scottsdale. I love it and agree its all 911. I work in sales at a luxury car dealer in Phoenix and I'm lucky that our owner lets me play an active roll in the cars we bid on at the simulcast of the Manheim action. In December we were bidding on David Beckham's 911 Turbo and gave up at $109k. Scottsdale Porsche won the car and it's on the floor there. I'll edit this post in a minute from my laptop and post pics of that Turbo, it really is like no other. If I could have anything, I want that Turbo but I do love the 991, it's the lap of luxury and a 911 in one.

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Just saw my first 991 on the corner of 44th and Madison in NYC. No plates, wheels filthy, parked 3 feet from the curb....and the keys in the ignition. Strange.

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Attended the local launch last Thursday. Nice looking car. Sad to see all the electronic driver's aids that pretty much take the driver out of the competitive equation, but that's how all manufacturers are going. What blew me away was the fact that it is one hour of labor to access the back of the engine for simple things like changing the air filters. Engine shroud, spoiler, tail lights, and bumper all have to come off. I'd assume it's another hour of labor to put it all back together.

POST 17Original post

I went to the dealer today to pick up a part and there was a 991 sitting next to my car when I came back out. I have to say, it is decidedly my favorite 911 shape since the 993. It really is a spectacularly well proportioned and balanced design. I really love that car! I can't believe that it came with 20s from the factory. I can remember when 16s were all the rage! Oh well, 24 years of Porsche ownership and the factory keeps surprising me...

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I saw my first one one on Federal Highway in Delray Beach, Florida the other day. It looked quite nice to me! -Eric

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that open sunroof is fugly!!! I saw several 991s at the Rolex 24Hrs. of Daytona race and while I liked the car, it certainly didn�t wow me. For some reason the rear of the car appears off to me but I do think it has retained the unmistakable 911 look.

POST 20Original post

Saw them at the dealer. To me, they just look big. Like M3 big.

POST 21Original post

They look like a slightly smaller version of the Panamera -not a fan. As for Beckham's car, that is plain fugly. Ignoring the differences in monetary value, I'd take my 996 over those two any day.

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They got one on the floor at the Calgary Porsche dealership (available for immediate purchase at around $135K, too, at less than the price on a 2012 Carrera 4S Cab 997 for $145K), so I went in yesterday morning to take a look as I had to pick up some parts for a weekend project. My overall observation is that it is a very nice car for sure, and yes, I do want one. However, there are a few things I didn't like. Firstly, it is waaaay too plush - it has definitely transitioned into an old man car - I think they are recognizing that a large part of their market that can actually afford these cars is is older, wealthier males. The seats are definitely very comfortable, however. Secondly, while the 911 shape is still there, the "curvy hips" are gone - it's wider straight back - or, in other parlance, the car has gone from being stacked/BBW to being "big boned". Thirdly, the "center console" or whatever it it is called is now massive - it looks like it's right out of a Panamera. Bottom line, at this exact point, my dream 911 remains a 997 - a 2009 (or newer) C4S in Orient Red, to be precise...

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Yep, still looks nice to me...although under the circumstances I'd still rather have my 996. -Eric

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Er uh isn't he on the rong side of the sidewalk ???? Looks like he went straight to doing a fan hack. Man that hurts.

POST 26Original post

I'll withold judgement until I see the "sporty" models but I too think Prosche should keep the 911 focused on performance rather than luxury. You can buy a Mercedes or Audi if you want to cruise around at full bloat. I want my 911 to deliver thrills. It's OK with me if the compromis is a little less comfort.

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I thought the Panamera would allow Porsche to keep the 911 "sporty" but given the fact the Porsche has 17-21 different variants of the 911 out at any point in time I think we'll still see some enthusiast-focused models out there.

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[QUOTE=DreamCarrera;9297164] that open sunroof is fugly!!! yes but its great from the inside when you're driving. I call it the ping pong table.

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Here's a picture of it in action... Okay, maybe not. -Eric

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I think it's safe to say that this guys only car is the 911.

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Did you say something? Sorry...I was distracted by your avatar.

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Saw the 991 in Speed Yellow at the Dealer in Scottsdale on Friday. Sunroof was open and I asked the Salesman if it was supposed to look like that! He told me that it was the number one complaint about the car. I was shocked at how plush the interior was. My '03 996 seems suddenly dated....from the inside anyway. Uh-oh. $$$

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Visited Griot's garage Coffee & Cars today... and they had two 991's, a Panamera and Cayenne Turbo supplied by Dealer. Also in attendance was a Audi GT V10 and Austin Martin Vantage and several Red Italian motor cars ... In that assembly it is very clear what Porsche is doing. At $122,000 for these Carrera S 991 models they need to be Dolled up in Luxury to compete. I love to look of any of these wonderful sports / GT machines ... but the techie stuff is Way over the top. Like I really need Two digital displays in the dash? I would love to spend $100K and trade in my 996 for a Porsche which I can no longer see the engine .. but has a Acoustic Engine Noise baffle device to allow me to hear the motor ... or not ... at the push of the button! Just one of the twenty plus buttons in the Console?

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