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YOUR RESEARCHOutlaw 996?
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The rest of the kit fitted quite well and just required a bit of modification .
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Looks like a car whose owner replaced body panels and didn�t bother to paint them.
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I changed more that the headlights to my 996 its a complete rebuild using 997, 991 and 996 parts but I wouldn't expect Dream Carrera to notice the changes .
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Speaking of which, I'm heading out to run Ortega Hwy in about 5 minutes.
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I almost picked up a non-running replica last year.
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I changed more that the headlights to my 996 its a complete rebuild using 997, 991 and 996 parts but I wouldn't expect Dream Carrera to notice the changes .
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I changed more that the headlights to my 996 its a complete rebuild using 997, 991 and 996 parts but I wouldn't expect Dream Carrera to notice the changes .
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Backstory - I went to a thing where Magnus Walker was around, spoke to him for a bit and he handed me one of his urban outlaw stickers.
I never got around to putting it on my car partially because I don't think my car is an outlaw. Having said that I do wonder how does one define an outlaw Porsche / 911 / 996?
I am curious to hear other opinions and see examples.
Well... in Spain, if you remove the mufflers for instance you are an outlaw... the same if you install lower springs and so on...so is not difficult
Now seriously talking, I see the "outlaw" like another customization trend (like cafe racer on motorbikes, for instance). It wouldnt be difficult to make an "outlaw" 996 including different elements of that custom style.
When I hear, "Outlaw 911" I think stripped down, raw.
I think the 996 CLR is an "Outlaw". There are several members here who have gone through great lengths to make their 996s louder, less comfortable and more focused.
The term "outlaw" basically refers to any car modifications that goes against what the "purists" would want you to do with it. Namely motor swaps or other non-traditional modifications.
Call it what you like, it's a blast to drive...2110cc and under 1700#'s, four wheel disc brakes and it won't rust! It will out perform any real speedster out there and I'm not afraid to drive it or park it at the mall!
I almost picked up a non-running replica last year.
I should have gotten it, but waited too long to say "I'll take it" and someone else nabbed it.
If I hadn't been in the middle of a driveway renovation I would own one now.
It was a great price, and rebuilding the engine, or just replacing it entirely would have been inexpensive.
Next time I find one that cheap, it will be mine.
It looks awesome, and sounds like it's a blast to drive! Real 356's are worth way too much to modify/outlaw. While still beautiful, the originals leave much to be desired regarding performance...
Yes, the red one down here in the Houston area.
But with no driveway at the time I decided to wait and then it disappeared.
I would have bought it as a long term project.
It isn't a replica or a modified (outlaw) replica either. Modified replica is an oxymoron. It's a very nice kit car and nothing more.
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Looks like a car whose owner replaced body panels and didn�t bother to paint them. But if it makes you happy, and �outlaw�, enjoy.
Another opinion is that anyone who builds an outlaw wouldn�t care what anyone else thinks. It�s kind if the point, after all, isn�t it?
Looking for consensus or support on an internet forum is a fools errand, in my opinion. Tech guidance, information sharing and comraderie with people with common interests, hell yeah.
There have been some good articles recently about the 356 and 911 that touched on outlaws in either Panorama or Total 911 (both decent rags for porscheheads, btw).
There was a guy from the UK that was on here at one point CLR or something like that, with a lightweight 996 that comes close for what I�d think of in this vein for the 996 generation.
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...clr-intro.html
Anytime you're out having fun tickling the pedal on the right and glance at your speedometer and go "Oh ****!"
Your car is now an outlaw! ;~)
Speaking of which, I'm heading out to run Ortega Hwy in about 5 minutes.
And, Bill, your 356ish is BADASSERY ON WHEELS! Very cool!
Awesome car Lowpue!
The MKI 996 with aero kit looks great, especially in speed yellow. How is the 997s engine and transmission combo working out in your 996 (especially given the custom wiring harness)?
A 996 with an LS swap is a POS IMHO...
Wow what a build. I have not seen your car before and I just went back and looked at your build thread from 2017...Incredible!!!
LOL I would't dispute that.
In my opinion, "outlaw" means it doesn't follow the rules. (whatever "the rules" are). It seems there is a certain status associated with having an outlaw car, although I'd argue the opposite.
Most of the 996s above in my opinion, while they are undoubtedly sweet rides, aren't outlaws. They still follow a certain unwritten rule of what is considered "Acceptable" modifications and by (my) definition aren't outlaws.
Hence the reason an LS engine would be an outlaw....
that's just my 2 cents...
Thanks for kind words....i do love the car, and the power and sound is intoxicating. In march its going in the shop for more customization of the maps. car is fantastic over 3k rpms (which is fine on the track) but there needs to be some more tuning below 3k for optimizing variocam
I really like it. If this showed up at a cars and coffee event, I would be looking at it before the stock examples. Definitely looks like there was some inspiration from Magnus' 996 GT3 in there.
Mr Ted, your car looks fantastic. I like what you have done with it.
Lowpue, your car is amazing. The mark1 aerokit and the 997s engine are the perfect combination for a 996 outlaw. Well done.
Pete95zhn, your car is the ultimate watercooled 911, in my humble opinion. I love how your car has evolved over the years. Every time I take my car out and flog it, a little part of me wouldn't mind if my engine pops....so I can replicate your transplant. Thanks for being an inspiration.
If anybody wants to see another great 996 outlaw, look up user name Redridge.
Guys, thanks for the compliments! There's something new coming for this season, I've spent all my free time in the garage.
More info about that during/after Easter holidays. (or at IG: fortistuning) If the question about wheels was pointed at me, they're Italian
NTM Racing's Pista IIIs
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List of parts and mods is
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with more pics. Side scoops are made out of steel, rear bumper is from 996 GT3
RS (Le Mans)
Kevlar reinforced carbon fiber by Zimspeed. Vents cut by myself. Engine's power is around 600hp / 800Nm crank, dyno'd and datalogged. There will be some modifications done for this summer.
After reading this thread I thought I would summarize my 996 outlaw build. It started off when I looked at a 991 and thought how similar they were to my 996 without the indicators. I initially just wanted to put them straight into the steel fenders but was concerned that it if didn't work out I would be looking for new body parts . So i purchased a 997 gt2 body kit and started the install. I had to modify the headlight surrounds of the fender and remake the headlight mounting plate as nothing came close to fitting . Also the lights required rewiring etc so all in all a lot of work to get it to this stage. The rest of the kit fitted quite well and just required a bit of modification . The current wheels on the car were from a 997 turbo and are 19inch . The car is currently undergoing a full respray in Porsche Modern Grey which i think is such an under rated colour . Hope you like it and will post the final finished pics soon. So here is my outlaw Porsche so far . 996 C2 convertible with 991 headlights , 997 gt2 body kit ,997 turbo wheels . Hope you all like it .
Good luck with your car and I hope it turns out to your liking but, IMHO, changing out the 996's headlights for the traditional 911's round/oval headlight appearance does not an outlaw Porsche make...
I changed more that the headlights to my 996 its a complete rebuild using 997, 991 and 996 parts but I wouldn't expect Dream Carrera to notice the changes . Its a one of a kind build painted in fashion Grey the only 996 in this colour I have seen so yes its an official outlaw
I like the idea, but this picture makes the bumper seem pinched just forward of the front wheels. How is the fitment after you painted and reinstalled?
Thanks NYPOWR4 ,
I'm really happy with how its turned out , problem with posting a new idea is your always going to have someone say something about it , but my idea to post it was to show my take on the outlaw thread , I very happy with what i have done .
