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I�ve got to have full vac check done first, then a refill if ok�I think last time it cost me about $225� been dreading bringing it in�
Check leaks, and determine how much lubrication is
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The sophisticated machines can do the full check, check for leaks, and determine how much lubrication is on the system and all that.
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Next I will remove front bumper cover and clean radiators etc.
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He did say that in most of Europe, R1234yf costs about the same as R134A, around 25 euros to fill most systems.
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The other "instructor" (American Wholesale Parts Supplier) informed the class that it was illegal in the US to fill an R1234YF systems with R134A and that we should disregard.
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The price is all over rhe board from 40-80 dollars a can I saw a 30 pound cylinder for $1100.00 On early cars I recommend upgrading to barrier hose and conversion to 134A.
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Noticed my AC was cool but not cold. Scheduled an appointment to have a recharge of the system. The AC system has not been touched in 24 years. Factory fill. Vacuum on system showed no leaks, so removed 0.74 pounds from the system and recharged 1.97 pounds R134a with oil. Damn it blows cold now, so much so I have to set the temp on the HVAC in the upper 70's even on a 90 degree + day. If you haven't had this done like me, something to consider.
All in at an indie $133, mostly cost of freon. One of the cheapest and best repairs on my 996 ever. Nice to have the cool air and defrost working perfectly.
Mine is somewhat tepid and seems to take quite awhile to cool down at all. I checked charge level and it was fine. Next I will remove front bumper cover and clean radiators etc. If still only somewhat cold I will follow your lead.
The invoice does not specify cost of the freon. I just paid and moved on. Seemed very fair to me. Took about an hour, 20 minutes on the vacuum hold test. Look, an AC system recharge is not something someone can DIY. It is really not best to dump a can from the auto parts store in the system because you don't know what you are getting. It requires a pretty specialized machine to do an extract, flush with nitrogen and refill. Just my two cents....
Nice. Mine blows plenty cool enough for me, but only if I really blast it on low when it�s really hot outside. I might want to get mine refreshed as well.
Well I'm screwed then. Because I recharged mine with a can from advanced auto parts. My Indy suggested I try it myself. I trust him. So do hundreds of customers who drive cars far more finicky and expensive than my girl. That was months ago, still blows cold. Not as icey as a new car but cold enough to chill the cab very nicely. I am trying to budget for ceramic tint. That's something I won't try myself.
Butt I hear you,. It's your car, and you're certainly not wrong to care for it.
I�ve got to get mine checked. I had it done about 5 years ago but it�s not even getting cool now. I�ve got to have full vac check done first, then a refill if ok�I think last time it cost me about $225� been dreading bringing it in�
The sophisticated machines can do the full check, check for leaks, and determine how much lubrication is on the system and all that. Even $225 doesn�t sound bad on a Porsche.
Define "leak"?
A 24 yr old car, even with no "leaks", can have some seepage. The seals around the compressor shaft are not perfect.
If you have it checked and in 2-3 years you're having an appreciable loss, then yes, you have a "leak".
Luckily I still have 1 full 30# tank and just under 4 cases of 12oz cans that I purchased a couple of years ago. (But I do see R134A still available in cans for $10)
I guess when I fill my other empty tank I�ll see how much R134A has gone up.
I don�t charge labor.
If you can find it. Tell us how much for R12 now. I used to sell that stuff. Zerex owned by Valvoline bought all the R12 supply in the US. Every year we would raise the price. At one point in time I had control with prices so I would set a price for Mexico and then another price for the rest of Latin America. I�m just curious now how expensive that stuff is. I used to buy cans for 99 cents, way back when.
Old stock of R-12 can be found on Ebay. The price is all over rhe board from 40-80 dollars a can I saw a 30 pound cylinder for $1100.00 On early cars I recommend upgrading to barrier hose and conversion to 134A.
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I haven’t recharged an R12 vehicle in decades.
I have converted several to R134A though.
But those systems had no remaining R12 and required replacement of most of the components due to being opened to moisture.
Just now seeing R1234yf systems too. (2017+)
R1234yf is crazy expensive.
I took a class in August 2021 on R1234yf systems, and the instructor (European AC Manufacture employee) said that if you had a supply of R134A and R1234yf was not available in your country you could thoroughly vacuum the R1234yf systems and refill with R134A, the systems were completely compatible.
He did warn that it would be best to relabel the system as R134A.
The other "instructor" (American Wholesale Parts Supplier) informed the class that it was illegal in the US to fill an R1234YF systems with R134A and that we should disregard.
The EPA does not allow relabeling of R1234yf systems as R134A.
The European instructor said that was crazy, they do it all the time in <European Country near Germany>.
He did say that in most of Europe, R1234yf costs about the same as R134A, around 25 euros to fill most systems.
I would never recommend anyone do that.
I just thought it was interesting what people do in Europe.
Why would anyone want to convert an expensive system with marginal gains in efficiency with a compatible, much cheaper, 90% as effective and easier to work on system?
That is just crazy talk
It's actually R1243yf (not 1234yf) though I typo that all the time. I would have zero qualms about converting a 1243yf system to R134a. Yes, I have a 608 and 609 card and all the A/C service stuff including a recovery machine..
My cans all say R1234yf:
In the class, it was referred to as "R Twelve Thirty-four."
I had been calling it "R One Two Three Four" for years without being corrected.
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