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When did Porsche switch to the larger IMS the requires a case split to swap?

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My '99's engine was replaced by the dealer with a porsche remanufactured engine in mid 2005, and it has the larger, non-replaceable bearing (6305).

When did Porsche switch to the larger IMS the requires a case split to swap?
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Engine was replaced some years ago.

When did Porsche switch to the larger IMS the requires a case split to swap?

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My (new to me) 01 was has a Porsche replaced motor (Cost $16K at the time) but does not have the AT.

When did Porsche switch to the larger IMS the requires a case split to swap?
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My '99's engine was replaced by the dealer with a porsche remanufactured engine in mid 2005, and it has the larger, non-replaceable bearing (6305).

When did Porsche switch to the larger IMS the requires a case split to swap?

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Engine was replaced some years ago.

When did Porsche switch to the larger IMS the requires a case split to swap?

Replace motor (cost $16k at the time)

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My (new to me) 01 was has a Porsche replaced motor (Cost $16K at the time) but does not have the AT.

When did Porsche switch to the larger IMS the requires a case split to swap?
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Forgive me if this has been covered, I'm having trouble nailing this down. Trying to find out when Porsche switched to the larger IMS bearing that requires a case split to replace. For some reason I thought this didn't occur until the 997 chassis. I'm asking because there's an '02 C2 for sale here , and the owner reports that when a shop went in to address the IMS/RMS they found it was equipped with this larger-style IMS requiring a case split, and that seems odd to me for a car that early.

POST 2Original post

OP - Please search this forum and 997 forum. There’s a range of serno’s for M96 AT engines and early M97 997 engines that are covered in those posts. Also, if, as the seller claims, the documentation in his possession does go back to new, the engine change to an AT serial number will be shown. So the question for you is what is the engine number? If there’s no engine swap or IMS replacement documented, then this IMS is original.

POST 3Original post

Quotes source post: 17705287

Ask him to verify the engine number. If it's a replacement it could have the the larger bearing.

POST 4Original post

If there is a AT in the serial # then it has a replacement engine with larger bearing.

POST 5 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 17705385

Wonderful. Thank you. It's my understanding those larger IMS bearings have a decreased failure incidence, correct?

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Quotes source post: 17705385

I believe this is only true if the replacement engine was manufactured in the 2006 model year or later.

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I have a 1999 C4. Engine was replaced some years ago. The engine serial number stamped on the engine does NOT have 'AT' in it, and yet I do have the large non-servicable bearing. Found out the hard way. I had the Porsche daler cross reference teh engine number even, and discovered that the serial number matches for a 1999 C2 in my C4 car.

POST 10Original post

Quotes source post: 17705682

That means it was rebuilt from a case built in model year 1999 and was done after 2005. And not done by Porsche

POST 11Original post

Quotes source post: 17705732

I have no further information on who did the work, but this is relevant to the OP, as he says the owner of the car has the large non-serviceable bearing: Moral of the story is that yes, you can have the large non-serviceable bearing in an earlier car. And the AT serial numbers may not be the only engines that have it.

POST 12 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 17705603

Cool, good to know. Thanks for the info. And thanks for all the help to the rest of ye!

POST 13Original post

Quotes source post: 17705642

My '99's engine was replaced by the dealer with a porsche remanufactured engine in mid 2005, and it has the larger, non-replaceable bearing (6305).

POST 14Original post

To come back to your initial question, Porsche never intended for the IMS bearing to be replaceable without tearing down the engine. So it wasn't a factor for them when they designed the larger M97 bearing.

POST 15Original post

My (new to me) 01 was has a Porsche replaced motor (Cost $16K at the time) but does not have the AT. I have no idea what bearing it has. My 02 does have an AT replacement with the big bearing and it was recommended to pull the grease seal and drive like I stole it (I did)...

POST 16 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Is it possible to tell which bearing is in place by the bearing cover? I did search but haven't found anything yet. This seems faster�and I really should be working right now, haha. Here's an image the owner sent me of the bearing cover from when his tech pulled the trans to address the IMS. Is there some giveaway here that a 6305 bearing lies underneath that cover?

POST 18Original post

Quotes source post: 17710518

Your part number is exactly same as mine, so you have the large bearing. So no need to worry about this IMS according to Jake, congrats.

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