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Ive replaced the AOS.

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Did you still have to remove the intake manifold to replace the AOS?

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Use floor jacks

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I used a low profile harbor freight trans jack, at its lowest point, it was still pretty high - I used floor jacks to get the trans off of it while under the car and onto a wheel dolly to get it removed from under the car...kind of a pain in the *** but it worked.

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Use liftbars

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I currently use liftbars which create a lot of fear each time I use them.

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Replace aos while i am doing a clutch/rms/ims

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I am looking for pointers on replacing my AOS while I am doing a clutch/RMS/IMS on my 992.2 C2 this weekend.

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Test patience

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Removing the gearbox is pretty easy, The AOS is a job where the tricks to doing it efficiently are hugely important and not knowing them, or having the right tools on hand to implement really can cost time and test your patience.

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Replace air oil separator

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Ive replaced the AOS.

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Suggestion

Did you still have to remove the intake manifold to replace the AOS?

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Replace aos while i am doing a clutch/rms/ims

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I am looking for pointers on replacing my AOS while I am doing a clutch/RMS/IMS on my 992.2 C2 this weekend.

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Test patience

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Removing the gearbox is pretty easy, The AOS is a job where the tricks to doing it efficiently are hugely important and not knowing them, or having the right tools on hand to implement really can cost time and test your patience.

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Use bellows, the 996.2 doesn't

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The UAOS for 996.1 does use the bellows, the 996.2 doesn't.

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Use floor jacks

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I used a low profile harbor freight trans jack, at its lowest point, it was still pretty high - I used floor jacks to get the trans off of it while under the car and onto a wheel dolly to get it removed from under the car...kind of a pain in the *** but it worked.

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Use lift

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but wait, If I've already installed all the parts by the time I get a lift, what will I use the lift for...

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Use liftbars

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I currently use liftbars which create a lot of fear each time I use them.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

For those of you who have DIY�d both clutch and AOS, which is more difficult? Ive replaced the AOS. If the clutch is more difficult then I may have to rethink DIY.

POST 2Original post

Removing the gearbox is pretty easy, The AOS is a job where the tricks to doing it efficiently are hugely important and not knowing them, or having the right tools on hand to implement really can cost time and test your patience. If I had to do it again, I would be much more efficient at the cost of having to do it the first time where I really didn't know the best way to do what I was trying to do. The trans on the other hand, everything is visible and there's nothing that I would say is particularly difficult to get to or see. There is the fact that the thing is heavy - so consequence exists for not treating the removal process with care. Get the car high enough that you can actually get the trans out from underneath the car it once its out. I used a low profile harbor freight trans jack, at its lowest point, it was still pretty high - I used floor jacks to get the trans off of it while under the car and onto a wheel dolly to get it removed from under the car...kind of a pain in the *** but it worked. I was missing not having a 2 post lift a lot more doing the trans than the AOS. Removing the trans was about 2 hrs out and 2 hrs in my first time doing it. I think I could get the clutch job done in a day without too much stress on my back if I had to. Once the trans is out - the clutch is unbolt / bolt in so I would have no worries about that.

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thank you zbomb. Sounds like the clutch can be pretty straightforward with a lift. I think it�s time for a two post low profile. I currently use liftbars which create a lot of fear each time I use them.

POST 4Original post

I did AOS (UAOS) and clutch/flywheel and RMS all at once. AOS was not bad with transmission down.

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Quotes source post: 17260720

I hate working on jack stands with the bottom of the car 6 inches from my face...until I've spent a couple minutes under it - then I forget about it and settle back in to as comfortable as I can be in that situation. I can't wait until I stop spending money on car parts and can afford a lift... but wait, If I've already installed all the parts by the time I get a lift, what will I use the lift for...

POST 7Original post

The hardest part of the clutch job for me was putting the slave cylinder back in.

POST 8Original post

Hardest part I find with a tranny out job is mating them back together. The 996 is one of the easiest trannys iv ever had to drop.

POST 9Original post

I had a hell of a time getting my transmission back in. The last half inch fought me tooth and nail.

POST 10Original post

I was prepared to fight getting the trans to seat, guess I got lucky. On my back I put both feet on the trans and wiggled and pushed and felt it slide in, was super satisfying. I did put the lightest coating of grease on the beginning of the splines on the input shaft, that may have helped a bit.

POST 11 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

On the AOS side of things... I did a smoke test the other day and discovered my AOS had a torn bellows. I was prepared for a nightmare. Surprisingly easy to replace. No more vacuum leaks. The $169 Autool smoke machine is worth its weight in gold. I suspect I tore the bellows during aos install last year. The original AOS bellows was shredded too. Curious, does the UAOS require a bellows? The bellows seems to be a very weak spot of the OEM system.

POST 12Original post

Quotes source post: 17263309

The UAOS for 996.1 does use the bellows, the 996.2 doesn't. The "bellows" is a weak item but isn't dangerous to the engine when fails. Will cause a CEL for lean condition (vacuum leak) but will not cause Hydrolock from oil, and easy and inexpensive to replace.

POST 14Original post

My 2 cents. I got my 996, at that time having done only basic maintenance. Oil, brakes, simple parts (alternator, belts) on my other cars. First month I did the IMS bearing, clutch, and some "while I'm in there" stuff. 18months later (this winter) I did the UAOS along with new fuel injectors. I put them at about the same in difficulty, but at opposite ends of my wrenching spectrum. IMS/clutch has heavy transmission, big bolts, relatively easy to get to but requires manhandling the transmission, and careful alignment, torque specs, etc. on bearing, flywheel bolts etc. But nothing finicky. AOS was entirely about finesse and working with fingertips, blind, elbow deep in the engine. Alot of small parts to bag and tag, but overall nothing too hard if I was methodical. (Ok, last manifold bolt, but there are great posts on getting that.) Good luck.

POST 15Original post

Quotes source post: 17260731

Did you still have to remove the intake manifold to replace the AOS? I am looking for pointers on replacing my AOS while I am doing a clutch/RMS/IMS on my 992.2 C2 this weekend.

POST 16Original post

Nope, AOS is very easy when the gearbox is down.

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