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YOUR RESEARCHRough idle, but only on startup when the engine is warm?

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vent line just

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However, in my case it was the vent line just to the left of the throttle body; part no.

Rough idle, but only on startup when the engine is warm?
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Clean not long ago though

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MAF and throttle bodies cleaned not long ago though.

Rough idle, but only on startup when the engine is warm?

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MAF and throttle bodies cleaned not long ago though.

Rough idle, but only on startup when the engine is warm?
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Clean not long ago though

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MAF and throttle bodies cleaned not long ago though.

Rough idle, but only on startup when the engine is warm?

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MAF and throttle bodies cleaned not long ago though.

Rough idle, but only on startup when the engine is warm?

Replace mass air flow sensor

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I experimented with cleaning, then replacing the MAF, with no change.

Rough idle, but only on startup when the engine is warm?

Run like crap

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Often it would just run like crap with no error codes.

Rough idle, but only on startup when the engine is warm?

Run position (not start), wait 60 seconds, turn ignition key

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Ignition key in, turn to run position (not start), wait 60 seconds, turn ignition key to off.

Rough idle, but only on startup when the engine is warm?
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Clean not long ago though

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MAF and throttle bodies cleaned not long ago though.

Rough idle, but only on startup when the engine is warm?

Performed · outcome unconfirmed

MAF and throttle bodies cleaned not long ago though.

Rough idle, but only on startup when the engine is warm?

Replace mass air flow sensor

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Suggestion

I experimented with cleaning, then replacing the MAF, with no change.

Rough idle, but only on startup when the engine is warm?

Run like crap

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Often it would just run like crap with no error codes.

Rough idle, but only on startup when the engine is warm?

Run position (not start), wait 60 seconds, turn ignition key

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Suggestion

Ignition key in, turn to run position (not start), wait 60 seconds, turn ignition key to off.

Rough idle, but only on startup when the engine is warm?

Run really roughly, like the engine was wanting

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It would be either hard to start when hot, or if it would start it would run really roughly, like the engine was wanting to stall.

Rough idle, but only on startup when the engine is warm?
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vent line just

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Reported cause

However, in my case it was the vent line just to the left of the throttle body; part no.

Rough idle, but only on startup when the engine is warm?
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Problem went away after the car sat for a bit, cleared it and haven't had anything pop up since.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Bit of an odd issue going on with my 2003 C2. Searched around but can't seem to find the same issue. Car has trouble finding idle, nearly stalls, and bounces around below 600 RPM for about 5-10 seconds on startup. Then the car is 100%, idles normally around 750, power is there, nothing weird. This also ONLY happens when the engine is warm. Cold start is perfect. I'm pretty stumped, can't figure anything that would happen while warm but not while cold. It threw a P0507 a couple months ago, was idling high between autocross runs. Problem went away after the car sat for a bit, cleared it and haven't had anything pop up since. Will pop in to clean air filter, MAF, throttle bodies, and see if there are any glaring vacuum leaks. MAF and throttle bodies cleaned not long ago though. Not sure what else to look at. Thank you

POST 2Original post

Quotes source post: 17480291

Crank position sensor.

POST 3Original post

First do an e-gas reset. Do not touch the accelerator pedal during this procedure. Ignition key in, turn to run position (not start), wait 60 seconds, turn ignition key to off. There will be some whirring and clicking sounds from the engine bay while the throttle body re-calibrates. Then start up normally and see what happens.

POST 4Original post

Did you ever figure this out? I am experiencing the exact same thing in my 1999 C2.

POST 5Original post

[QUOTE=DoctorGoalie;17480291]Bit of an odd issue going on with my 2003 C2. Searched around but can't seem to find the same issue. Car has trouble finding idle, nearly stalls, and bounces around below 600 RPM for about 5-10 seconds on startup. Then the car is 100%, idles normally around 750, power is there, nothing weird. This also ONLY happens when the engine is warm. Cold start is perfect. I'm pretty stumped, can't figure anything that would happen while warm but not while cold. It threw a P0507 a couple months ago, was idling high between autocross runs. Problem went away after the car sat for a bit, cleared it and haven't had anything pop up since. Will pop in to clean air filter, MAF, throttle bodies, and see if there are any glaring vacuum leaks. MAF and throttle bodies cleaned not long ago though. Not sure what else to look at. Thank you[/QUOTE I have the same problem, did you find out what was causing the rough idle and was there a solution?

POST 6Original post

Far fetched theory but perhaps leaking injectors? Shutting down the engine causes fuel to leak down for a short while to the combustion area in case of leaking injectors. If the combustion chamber is "wet" the combustion process is not working properly. If the car sits over night etc that fuel evaporates and that's why the cold start is ok. Perhaps take a look at the spark plugs - are those wet?

POST 7Original post

Perhaps this is the cause https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...l#post18799507 Or this https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...l#post18825409

POST 8Original post

FWIW my car had this symptom a few years ago. It would be either hard to start when hot, or if it would start it would run really roughly, like the engine was wanting to stall. On occasion it would throw P1128 and P1130 codes, but only sometimes. Often it would just run like crap with no error codes. I experimented with cleaning, then replacing the MAF, with no change. However, in my case it was the vent line just to the left of the throttle body; part no. 99611012953. The complete Porsche part is almost $300, BUT, the actual part you need which is just the Bosch valve near the throttle body is only $40. Both parts will come up if you Google search the part no. Its a REALLY easy fix. Probably only took 15 minutes and maybe worth a try given the ease and cost.

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