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YOUR RESEARCHThese LED headlights, nice or ugly?
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All questions of taste aside (lights and wives)...there is no mention of these lights being DOT or E approved, which is being checked more often these days during inspection.
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^^ They look a lot worse in the uninstalled pictures than they do in the installed pictures.
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Extrememotorcars of Santa Barb, Ca has installed some of these and they look nice on the right car.
Replace i think led lights will be a serious problem
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Since individual LEDs can't be replaced, I think LED lights will be a serious problem for aging cars.
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Probably the best aftermarket LED's that I've seen for the 996, but still don't think they belong on a 996, it's trying to make it into something that it isn't.
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All questions of taste aside (lights and wives)...there is no mention of these lights being DOT or E approved, which is being checked more often these days during inspection.
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I understand that these mass produced Taiwanese built lights might have its issues in the future but it won't be to hard to upgrade the lighting by opening them up and replacing whatever needs to be replaced.
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best aftermarket led's
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Probably the best aftermarket LED's that I've seen for the 996, but still don't think they belong on a 996, it's trying to make it into something that it isn't.
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Nice if you really wanted an Audi.
Seriously, I wouldn't do it. A Porsche is a Porsche. If you have an older one, then just let it be what it is. It needs no justification.
They're not really my thing. I'm not anti-mod but they scream aftermarket to me kind of like Buick portholes or Z3 gills on a Honda Civic. To each their own. I've probably seen worse.
-Eric
I like the concept of adding modern LED lights to a 996 headlight. It would be nice to add that option if you were looking to freshen up a set of worn headlights. However, in this case, I think the design is over the top. There are too many LEDs in that light cluster, and it looks a little cheesy. It would have been much nicer if they had been a little more conservative with the design.
There are other ways to devalue your car too.
Purple window tint, fake mobile phone antenna, bobble head air fresheners on the dash, PINSTRIPES!!! The stick-on kind though, not painted. Make 'em green. Doesn't matter what colour your car is.
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Since individual LEDs can't be replaced, I think LED lights will be a serious problem for aging cars. They will start to look trashy as individual LEDs fail, but owners won't want to spend hundreds of dollars to replace the entire fixture. I don't see any upside to them regardless of their style.
Personally i like the idea of an easy update and with real benefits. Having said that, I would still like to see them installed before i make a decision to keep them on.
Thanks for the feedback. I agree it makes the car look cheap. With that being said, I am going to dig myself a bigger hole....
How about these Dectane rear LEDs? thoughts? Good or bad upgrade
http://www.pitlane.bg/en/lighting/de...crystal-p45996
"Why ask our opinion?" Hahaha Wow Gonzo your right!
Wow I'm such a dummy, for a second i thought this forum was for discussing, getting opinions and asking questions about our cars.
I happen to like LEDs on the right car. In my opinion Audi tends to do them well.
While Marc will probably disagree I think the tail lights you linked to are a little more subtle on the cheesiness factor than the headlights. I don't find them to be nearly as offensive or cheap looking. That said, they still don't match the rest of the car. LEDs are very "today"...not late '90s to '04.
What is your goal in modding? Usually, someone has a vision in mind of what they want their car to look like and they mod to that look. Do you just have the mod bug? Are you looking to mod just to mod or do you have a particular vision of a car that you're trying to achieve? To your point, there's nothing wrong with asking for opinions but at the end of the day it's your car. If you like it who cares what anyone else thinks?
-Eric
I don't mind LEDs if they are done tastefully. The problem with most of the aftermarket products, including the headlights shown at the beginning of this thread, is that they are overdone. The reasoning seems to be that if LEDs are good, then lots and lots of LEDs must be really good. I don't agree with this reasoning...
On the off off chance anyone is actually considering these abominations, please realize that the chinese factory producing them will panic and dump their stock in about 6 months. They should sell reasonably well on Ebay for $150 or so, maybe less.
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LEDs can be expensive when they go out. A bank of them went out in my wife's MB and the whole tail light assemply had to be replaced. If it wasn't under warranty, it would have been almost $500.
I like the idea of $1.00 for a bulb I can replace myself.
As for the mods, start with the pumpkins and then go from there. You have a great looking car. Think hard before you change the appearance too much.
I'm not a fan of the christmas tree look with the little points of light. LED lights are over done at this point on anything and everything new at this point.
Personally I do not like them. Just the normal LED stuff around the headlights you see on any Honda. Way too cluttered looking and the price is too expensive for the quality you will get (To even think about trying them) Just my opinion though, different strokes for different folks.
I don't like them either; a little too busy and gaudy. I wish an aftermarket company would just make a simple headlight assembly that integrates the headlight, fog light, and turn signal better. And mold the little corner piece right into the unit! While I love the overall shape of the Mk.1 factory headlamp, the internals look mismatched and assembled without much thought as to what the final product would look like on the car. The lines and textures just don't match up just right. The later mk.2/turbo headlamp was better organized but I prefer the earlier shape.
Probably the best aftermarket LED's that I've seen for the 996, but still don't think they belong on a 996, it's trying to make it into something that it isn't.
You forgot fuzzy dice, fake wood panelling and spinning hub caps. They all seemed like good ideas at the time to way too many people..I think the LED's look great on the Audi's, but can't help to think they too will look dated very quickly.
IMO it isn't much different than adding the LED tail lights which many on here have done. If you are going to do the rear, why not do the front so it at least has the same concept at each end.
They also come in Black. sorry no pic of the black installed.
Extrememotorcars of Santa Barb, Ca has installed some of these and they look nice on the right car.
They still don't don't it for me installed. But neither does that bumper.
I'm not a big fan of turning the front of cars into cheap christmas trees by stringing rowas of white LEDs everywhere. Especially now that Chrysler has gottent into the game and everyone is trying to one up the other with LEDs. Enough already.
Yeh like an Audi....... Hey who said remove the pumpkins first? Leave 996 originaiity, Pumpkins scream 996 and I am very proud to own my 996, We are in a very special club. The first of the water cooled 911 club,, All that follow are only copies (with minor changes)
All questions of taste aside (lights and wives)...there is no mention of these lights being DOT or E approved, which is being checked more often these days during inspection.
Bringing this thread back from the dead! I personally like these led headlights and taillights or at least the taillights that resemble the 2009 up 911's. First off, the concept of putting led's in headlights came from Audi and now just about every auto manufacture, including Porsche, use them. I actually think the cheesy insertion of led's in the front bumpers(like Mercedes, Porsche etc)look far more "ricey" then actual integration with the headlight. The 996 yoke shape headlights are very dated and bland. My first 911 was a 2001 C2 and I spent $1800 for a pair of litronics! That hurt but it was an improvement. I love the cleaner design of the new aftermarket led headlamps. The front half, arrow shaped leds on them also serve as a signal light and change color from white to amber when in use. The little led strips on the sides of the projectors do look cheesy but a simple wiring mod can disable its function and make the lifeless bulbs look more decorative then anything else. I will be installing a black housing set on my 99 C2 and post pics soon. I'm also going with the 997 style led taillamps because it currently has the amber half look all around. I understand that these mass produced Taiwanese built lights might have its issues in the future but it won't be to hard to upgrade the lighting by opening them up and replacing whatever needs to be replaced. It is a decent looking base to work with. I am new to this forum but have been a Porsche enthusiast since the age of 14. I'm very passionate about automobiles period. I hope to be a helpful contributor to this forum. Love this site!
Not mine yet zabuch. Those pics are from a vendor who sells them on ebay. I didn't want to advertise for anyone so I removed the dealers name off the ad. Very clean and updated oem look for our dated 996 babies.
On the first page it seems you opted out of the headlights. Last time I replaced bulbs up front I could of sworn there is a lot more to the light module that slides out. I'm thinkong this gut is selling the outside face and light bulb riggings but not the housing. I don't think its the whole module and uncertain if its a break apart or uncrew to add his stuff. I'm mostly wondering.
For the rear I've never removed mine but also have to wonder on that item if its the complete module.
No but they do come with a rocketman decal to put on the side of your vehicle! Sweet. Gold crown car fresheners are reserved for Camaros or any GM product equipped with such lighting.
