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YOUR RESEARCHTesting and possible cleaning valve lifters?

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The exhaust lifters are cheap, like $15 each, so those can be replaced without too much financial pain.

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Clean cylinder head i'm wondering if there's way

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Ok, as I have engine out and I'm currently cleaning cylinder head I'm wondering if there's way to test and possibly clean valve lifters (without taking them apart)?

Testing and possible cleaning valve lifters?
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Use intake lifters and bought new exhaust lifters

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I tested and re-used my intake lifters and bought new exhaust lifters.

Testing and possible cleaning valve lifters?

Clean cylinder head i'm wondering if there's way

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Suggestion · Original poster

Ok, as I have engine out and I'm currently cleaning cylinder head I'm wondering if there's way to test and possibly clean valve lifters (without taking them apart)?

Testing and possible cleaning valve lifters?

Clean i don't know

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As far as cleaning, I don't know.

Testing and possible cleaning valve lifters?

Clean valve lifters (without taking them apart)

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Suggestion · Original poster

Ok, as I have engine out and I'm currently cleaning cylinder head I'm wondering if there's way to test and possibly clean valve lifters (without taking them apart)?

Testing and possible cleaning valve lifters?
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Clean cylinder head i'm wondering if there's way

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Suggestion · Original poster

Ok, as I have engine out and I'm currently cleaning cylinder head I'm wondering if there's way to test and possibly clean valve lifters (without taking them apart)?

Testing and possible cleaning valve lifters?

Clean i don't know

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As far as cleaning, I don't know.

Testing and possible cleaning valve lifters?

Clean valve lifters (without taking them apart)

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Suggestion · Original poster

Ok, as I have engine out and I'm currently cleaning cylinder head I'm wondering if there's way to test and possibly clean valve lifters (without taking them apart)?

Testing and possible cleaning valve lifters?

Inspect lifters and the lift carrier

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I think the only thing you need to "test" is to inspect the lifters and the lift carrier for any signs of wear that would indicate that they are not sliding freely in the carrier (scoring, gouges, etc.).

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The exhaust lifters are cheap, like $15 each, so those can be replaced without too much financial pain.

Testing and possible cleaning valve lifters?

Test " is

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I think the only thing you need to "test" is to inspect the lifters and the lift carrier for any signs of wear that would indicate that they are not sliding freely in the carrier (scoring, gouges, etc.).

Testing and possible cleaning valve lifters?

Test on his m9x assembly video series

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If so, Jake Raby describes a simple test on his M9X assembly video series that involves pushing up on the variable portion of the lifter and allowing it to "snap" back.

Testing and possible cleaning valve lifters?

Test variocam +

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Are you talking about testing the variocam + on intake lifters on a .2?

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Use intake lifters and bought new exhaust lifters

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I tested and re-used my intake lifters and bought new exhaust lifters.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Ok, as I have engine out and I'm currently cleaning cylinder head I'm wondering if there's way to test and possibly clean valve lifters (without taking them apart)?

POST 2Original post

Are you talking about testing the variocam + on intake lifters on a .2? If so, Jake Raby describes a simple test on his M9X assembly video series that involves pushing up on the variable portion of the lifter and allowing it to "snap" back. The test is mostly listening to how it returns (he demonstrates the sound of a bad lifter and a good one) so it's difficult to describe in words. Bad lifters basically produce a more notable "clack" almost loose sounding return. As far as cleaning, I don't know. I tested and re-used my intake lifters and bought new exhaust lifters.

POST 3Original post

You might soak them in some kind of solvent, i.e. alcohol, gasoline. You would probably want to actuate them while they are soaking to loosen and flush any dirt. My concern would be scoring the internals of the lifter as there are some close tolerances. Finally, you'd want to soak them and actuate them in motor oil prior to installing to avoid a dry start. Personally, if I had any doubts about my lifters, and was that deep into the head, I'd replace them.

POST 4Original post

The variocam plus intake lifters for 3.6 liter engines are about $130 each and you need 12, so reusing them is not a terrible idea.

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Quotes source posts: 18271351, 18271248, 18270455

I didn't have any obvious issues with lifters before dropping the engine so 12 X 1xx X 2 is a bit steep for a "while you are in there" preventative measure - not a bad idea though but my pockets are not steep enough considering that I need to prepare for fixing BS at some point in the future..... Need to look into that - not sure if I'm able to actuate those as I tried to press some of those but those are stiff - which I guess is normal depending on the status when I switched off the engine that some of those might be soft and some of them might be stiff.... or?

POST 6Original post

The exhaust lifters are cheap, like $15 each, so those can be replaced without too much financial pain. Whatever you do do not mix up the lifters, if you are reusing them they must go back into the slot they came out of.

POST 7Original post

Quotes source post: 18272170

There isn't a "status" of the lifters. If you have variocam + lifters, they should be able to be pushed up with your finger from the open end of the lifter. What year is your car?

POST 9Original post

check out how I determine if I reuse any lifter in post #61 https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...ne-well-7.html

POST 10Original post

Your intake lifters are different than what I am talking about. That's why I asked originally asked what you were trying to test. The second generation 996 have a 2 part intake lifter where the inner post of the lifter actuates beyond the main body of the lifter (very poor description but you can do a search to understand the difference if you are interested). I think the only thing you need to "test" is to inspect the lifters and the lift carrier for any signs of wear that would indicate that they are not sliding freely in the carrier (scoring, gouges, etc.). As another poster mentioned, keep track of each lifter and the position in the carrier it came from. Slight changes in wear/ovaling can happen over time and if you swap it can cause problems. But it sounds like you are already past this point so you either did this originally or not.

POST 11Original post

Quotes source post: 18270455

Jake Raby also demonstrates the nested lifter test in this video. You Tube

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