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YOUR RESEARCHHow do you remove Waynes IMS bearing?
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Use ln engineering toolkit
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I used the LN engineering toolkit for installation.
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Recommend more robust lne bearing and entire toolkit
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Pelican does offer and recommend the more robust LNE bearing and entire toolkit.
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Comments: I wanted to replace the IMS bearing on my 2000 Carrera for a piece of mind.
Replace with the correct lne bearing at the next clutch
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I plan on replacing with the correct LNE bearing at the next clutch change.
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You still have to tap the bolt all the way into the bearing as it is designed to grab the inside edge of the bearing, then it expand as you tighten the nut.
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You still have to tap the bolt all the way into the bearing as it is designed to grab the inside edge of the bearing, then it expand as you tighten the nut.
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Originally, I tried using an 8mm X 1 coupling nut which was just too small to pull the bearing out, but it succeeded in stripping off the threads from the IMS Bearing bolt, making it useless.
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Also, I noticed that most of the tools use a cylinder around the bearing, which I am too, but have seen treads about dent pullers being used or pullers with arms on the back of the block, isn't there a possibility of damaging the IMS shaft or some internals there?
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Because of the oversized spindle on the Pelican kit the LNE bearing puller will pull the original bearing out but will not remove this bearing using the spindle so a different solution is needed to remove it or reset it if it installs crooked
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Going off one of their reviews
Comments: I wanted to replace the IMS bearing on my 2000 Carrera for a piece of mind. I didn't know if I had a double row or single row bearing so this product fit the ticket. I used the LN engineering toolkit for installation. I plan on replacing with the correct LNE bearing at the next clutch change. Because of the oversized spindle on the Pelican kit the LNE bearing puller will pull the original bearing out but will not remove this bearing using the spindle so a different solution is needed to remove it or reset it if it installs crooked
So what do you do when you want to pull out pelicans bearing?
Funny but not very helpful.
Relax Maor, theres a little simple tool/mod to do this. Theres also another way I wont get into here. I assume you did not buy your removal/install tools from Pelican.
If you become a member, stop typing in red, and PM me, I will loan you the tool or tell you how.
Bandwidth costs money. The price for membership is well worth the money for all the free info, links, DIY's, and free tech advice from very knowledgeable members and sponsors. JMHO.
Not to beat a dead horse but the OP has posted on Rennlist, Renntech and Pelican Parts the exact same citation (note that this is a comment cited from some other source...somebody doing the Pelican IMS bearing replacement for "piece of mind"). Pelican Tech Forums have extensive write ups, pictures and videos of IMS bearing replacement, plus there is this forum and Renntech. Just my opinion, and not to knock Wayne, CEO, Pelican Parts, but I would not use the single bearing replacement and snap rings Pelican offers that has to be changed at every clutch change. Pelican does offer and recommend the more robust LNE bearing and entire toolkit. Thus, with all this and the technical assistance from Pelican, I do not understand why the OP is asking fellow members this question vis-a-vis a comment picked up from somewhere else.
Maybe he has the same issue? Maybe hes just curious? Either way if anyone is interested or needs it, I have all the parts to mock up and photograph the process. I just dont think anyone needs it here. He's a new member here, maybe just trying to learn more.
He doesn't have to be selling anything to us directly necessarily...for your sake I sincerely hope that most of your posts here are merely your schtick and you are not indeed as dense as you portray yourself to be.
I don't discriminate between members and non members or try to push paying for membership when it comes to technical help/info. You can if you want and that's fine by me but I'm and probably many others, aren't like that.
and answered over on 6Spd as follows:
maor- the LN bearing removal toolkit now contains adapters that will work to pull the bearing out with the old bolt *and* the new bolt. So, there's no problem removing the bearing in the future if you need to.
You may have read Pelican's
IMS Bearing Replacement DIY Article
but if not it's a great read with tons of info/instructions as well as differences between the LN & Pelican kits.
Hope that helps but if you have any questions, reply here or call us directly and we'll assist.
Thanks Rennlisters!
Mark/Pelican Parts
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I know the Pelican Parts response from Mark is really old, but i called them to ask about how much force can be used in pulling the old IMS and "Amy" said we only take orders, we don't give tech support. I know they are not there to walk you through your DYI job, that's why they have the " How to Articles" but having spent thousands of dollars with them you would expect a little more!
2001 Boxster S 3.2
Broken IMS bolt and broken Pilot bearing puller and still no movement.
The LN Engineering IMS Bearing Pro Tool Kit has an extractor for pulling bearings out that don't have a bolt.
https://lnengineering.com/products/i...-retrofit.html
Thanks for the suggestion, I have another pilot bearing puller and a 3/4-inch threaded rod attached now and have been hammering on it and still nothing is moving. I know there is a ring lock on the bearing, but I am concerned about damaging something internally as I don't think I have ever used this kind of force on anything on a car before.
Also, I noticed that most of the tools use a cylinder around the bearing, which I am too, but have seen treads about dent pullers being used or pullers with arms on the back of the block, isn't there a possibility of damaging the IMS shaft or some internals there?
At what point is it worth just cutting out the bearing ?
I did mine last week, it took a fair bit of force to get the ring lock to let go using the LN tool. I would estimate the same as ~50ftlb on my 1/2" drive torque wrench - not a great analogy I know. Took 2 hands on the end of a normal ratchet, but not enough to need the breaker bar.Once it let go it came out without much effort. Hope you can get yours out without too much more trouble.
I broke another OEM Pilot Bearing Puller, that makes two now.
Originally, I tried using an 8mm X 1 coupling nut which was just too small to pull the bearing out, but it succeeded in stripping off the threads from the IMS Bearing bolt, making it useless.
So, after seeing a bearing puller picture on the Pelican Parts website, I found the perfect tool for removing the IMS that is dirt cheap and available at any hardware store, it’s a Simpson Strong-Bolt Wedge Anchor that’s � inch in diameter and 10 inches long.
There is a bit of work to be done to make the anchor bolt fit, some light grinding on the actual bold underneath the clip to reduce its size, as its too large as is, to fit in the center hole of the bearing. You still have to tap the bolt all the way into the bearing as it is designed to grab the inside edge of the bearing, then it expand as you tighten the nut.
The Anchor Bolt and a slightly modified piece of 2-inch pipe that has the threads ground down to fit around the IMS in the block and a large washer is all that was needed to remove the Dual Row IMS bearing. A 20-dollar fix for an IMS removal project that went south.
Hope this helps someone else!
As you can tell from the rounded nuts, just not enough surface area to create the force needed to remove the bearing.
Both times the tooth at the end of the tool broke off inside the IMS shaft.
Here is the anchor tool and the section of 2 inch pipe. As you can see, the IMS bearing is on the end. Success!
Here is a photo of how much material was removed from the bolt so that it along with the sleeve can fit inside the center hole of the bearing .