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The E46 wagon was slower, smaller, and less efficient than its successors, but it was the only one that truly felt like a sports car in a regular car suit.
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BTR 3 successfully installed with my CDR23 fiberoptic MOST system.
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I use my E350 kombi to haul bags of mulch, my wife's bicycle, 4 gas cans, groceries.
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I had a silver one that I sold with over half a million miles original engine, yea I had to repair the tranny on that one.
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After having a serious blow out on a 3k set of Michelin 4s on my 911 2 weeks ago when I found out that a pair of 295s would cost me $900 I switched to a set of general that I had on another set they had only about 500 miles on then I have to say they ride and stick beautifully and I won’t miss the Michelin
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The E46 wagon was slower, smaller, and less efficient than its successors, but it was the only one that truly felt like a sports car in a regular car suit.
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Here is my introduction:
How do you quantify a feeling? Numbers on a page do not translate. If a picture is worth a thousand words, a feeling is indescribable. It can only be experienced. Looking down the hood valley invokes its own feelings; you know that this can only be one car. Not just a model within a make, but something truly unique, that has been a mainstay so long, people have been looking at the same profile for more than 50 years. The low sloping hood leads back to a raked windshield and roof that flows back over the rear mounted engine. Some critics argue that the engine is in the wrong place, and they would be right, if this car was anything but the Porsche 911.
Remembering that the key is to the left of the steering wheel, and turning it, the car welcomes you inside with several slow rotations before suddenly barking to life. The exhaust is sharp, reminding you of the engines location and eagerness to be engaged.
My own car, a 2003 Carrera 4S, is finished in special order Meridian Silver over Cinnamon Leather. Something that Porsche has maintained, is the ability for buyers to truly customize their orders, down to the color of the stitching on the seats and dash. The deviation of the seat stitching in this car matches the black carpet and seatbelts, and serves as a reminder that the car is special, that these small details were specifically chosen and not just the result of an accountant finding the most financially viable combination of finishes. Although the several “Light wood” special touches may have not aged well from a styling standpoint now in 2021, the finish shines and fits the vintage of the car well.
The 4S, the 911’s all-wheel-drive variant, shares the flared rear body work and front bumper as its performance-oriented counterpart, the Turbo. The steering carries a heavier weight due to the front driving wheels when comparing against the base Carrera, and indeed does lose some of the more nimble characteristics of the two-wheel-drive car. But to me, the 4S builds upon the real intention of the 911 with its improved year-round practicality. That is, that the 911 is a GT car meant for longer trips and spirited drives as opposed to a sharpened tool meant solely to pass cars on closed looping circuits. Letting your eyes wander about the cabin reinforces this, no thought to weight was put into this model’s leather wrapped gauge pod or the optioned supple leather heated seats.
The engine, horizontally opposed in its layout, makes incredible noises: mechanical, but confidence inspiring as the revs build to the seven thousand three hundred rpm redline. Other engines may provide more grunt, but much like the practicality of the car, the beauty is not in the numbers, but the experience. The muffled noise coming from the tail pipes, the click-clacking of the shifter as the car and driver prepare for the next stint of speed, the delicately balanced transfer of weight as you turn in to the corner. These are irreplaceable and unmistakable hallmarks of something that can never be duplicated or improved upon at their core. The experience does not make excuses, owing to not solely answering to engineers wringing out the last drop of performance or corporate accountants shaving costs to meet some incremental yearly measure.
Writing this, one month into ownership, I have already put more than one thousand miles on the car. Picking my daughter up from school, taking the dog to the groomer, family trips to the state park for a hike. The frunk may be lacking in space, and I may be pressing my luck with passenger legroom as my daughter continues to grow, but the experiences and memories will be held for life. Experiences and memories that can only be made in one car: the
Porsche 911
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Get a comfortable chair for your garage holy moly.
Congrats, enjoy this stunning 4S in best of health. Couldn't agree with your opening sentiments more. That gold badge is majestic. Don't hurt your arm while you're pinching yourself!
Amen brother. This characteristic for the C4S doesn't get enough emphasis. Mine is also (every other) daily driver and see it as an incredibly capable all around vehicle (Almost like in those ads for a 67 911 in the snow with skiis on top, and the beautiful girl.). Well written tribute to the car.
Well written, we should print and frame. Great car. I got mine in January and have driven it over 6,000 miles so far. This is addictive.I have never driven a C4S, but a c4 convertible and i did not like it, the car in my opinion had a lot of issues. a lot of people in a bunch of places say the rear end on your car is the best Porsche ever. Anyway since addicted I�m looking for more power, I�m test driving today an 08 C4S that apparently has been modified, 450 hp. Wish you many more miles to come
And a bunch of excuses to take the car out.
appreciate the kind words.
now for actual content, I've spoiler'd my rambling about the purchase of this car so you don't have to skip through it if you don't care.
Spoiler
In my search I was more-so looking for a fair deal than any specific car, although I was definitely looking more for a 996.1 C2
Searching for a 911 C2. I tried to purchase a car in Indianapolis from a dealer, had an ABS light on that I wasn't concerned with. Made an offer, dealer said they wanted to figure the light out before selling it to me.
Found this C4S on Facebook (I had missed out on several other cars because someone else had got to them first). Sent a message to the lady that listed it. (blurry pictures and no description, very sketchy). She said it wasn't her car, and that she had listed it for her husband (red flags number 2+3) and that she I should call him to speak about the car.
So I call the guy, we introduce ourselves, then "Its actually not my car, I'm listing it for my father in law"
oof
a smarter person would've given up at this point. SIL takes my number and says the owner will contact me. FINALLY talk to the owner the next day, and he's great. 2 owner since purchasing the car CPO in california. All service records. IMS/RMS/Clutch/FW done within the last 9,000 miles, full 60k mile service done within 7,000 miles. huge stack of papers.
I rented a car that week and drove the 5 hours to Tennessee. He had the car parked out front with the cover on it, so that I could "unwrap it". Everything checked out so I took the keys and drove home.
Driving the car home, there is a bit of shimmy in the wheel around 70-80mph.
Tires are old and mismatched so its high on the list of to-dos, I'd also like to start with an alignment since its an easy way to get a professional to identify any suspension issues.
Car has ~63k miles on it currently. Still deciding between coilovers or just a bilstein/spring setup. I absolutely ruined my corvette with dumb parts and I'd really like to keep this very close to stock and mostly work on maintenance and freshening.
I took it out for a rip over the weekend and had a great time. the car feels wonderful and the engine sound is SO GOOD.
Here are some pictures of a car with the engine in the right place:
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-the-fact.html
mod list that no one asked for:
Interior:
2002 CD player, with Aux Box for phone connection
C5r Delrin Shift ****
Sparco Grid II seats with Sparco side Mounts
New OEM Torch Red seat belts
Sparco R375 suede wheel with LifeLine quick release and Flaming River shaft adapter
Elite Engineering "Heel Toe" accelerator pedal
Windows are tinted 20%
LMC5 column lock bypass
Exterior:
4 rear 18x10.5 z06 Wheels, purchased brand new from House of Wheels
4 285/35r18 Michelin Pilot Super Sport Tires
Front License plate filler
Side moulding removed
Short antennae
Suspension:
Doug Rippie Motorsports Bilstein full coilover suspension
New OEM C6 Grand Sport sway bars
New OEM metal end links
Performance:
New OEM 2004 z06 manifolds
OEM z06 midpipe
OEM z06 Titanium axle back
RMNSX dual intake
Maintenance:
New plugs and OEM Red wires
New OEM belts
New OEM tensioners
New OEM hoses
Fluids changed
Mobil 1 0w-40 Euro formula
Motul 600 brake fluid
Redline Transmission fluid
Redline Differential fluid
Power Stop TrackDay brake pads
Talk about a plastic interior (and exterior for that matter...). How come nobody complains about the Corvette interior? Oh, maybe it's because they cost half as much (or less) as our Porsche's...
correct, it was a 99 FRC. Arctic white which is technically more rare than the Speedway White 2001 z06. (production numbers are the only thing corvette owners care about lol)
I am a huge proponent of square wheel and tire setups, but I'm sure thats probably asking for trouble in the 911
Dude very nice indeed. I'm vaguely familiar with the intricacies of the early C5 Z06 and the later C5 Z06, my co worker is trying to convince me to buy a STS Twin 2003 C5 Z... thank god I ran out of garage space. I do hate the interior of those cars BUT you addressed it perfectly and it's amazing what seats and a steering wheel can do... kudos on the car brother.
thanks dude, I loved it for what it was and what it was meant for. The Porsche is a much nicer car with a very different power delivery at a very different price point
Thanks to
@TheChunkNorris
I (he) found some good options for converting the MOST fiberoptic system if you want to add an aftermarket headunit. I wanted to detail it here incase someone is searching google and comes across it.
Cheaper, limited functionality (only 2 channel output)
Amazon
Amazon
Expensive, better functionality (4 channel) - *still trying to verify that this is compatible with 996
https://navtv.com/products/NTV-KIT210/most-hur-997.html
Drop all the fiberoptics:
Add BT functionality to the factory radio - after reviewing the options, this is the most simple solution and retains the factory headunit (which I like so it doesn't look out of place)
https://rennkit.com/product-info/blu...-retrofit-kit/
Some good threads here:
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...ctory-amp.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...t-adapter.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...o-adaptor.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...-question.html
�But to me, the 4S builds upon the real intention of the 911 with its improved year-round practicality.�
Beautiful car. Enjoy the hell out of it. As much as I love the idea and the stance of the 4S, here in Southern Cal where the only two seasons are green or brown, it didn�t feel necessary either time I pulled the trigger on my 996s.
No worries, if I would've bought the C2 I drove first my whole post would've been praise the 2WD and general unnecessary-ness of the 4S and how the heavy steering ruins the car :P
I know that feeling! I love my C2 Cab and look forward to driving it every day. However, mine has got a �few� issues to address before I take her to the prom.
BTR 3 successfully installed with my CDR23 fiberoptic MOST system. Simple plug and play
need to splice the red/black power wire (constant on) and brown (ground) from the existing radio harness to power the module, but other than that it was plug and play. Surprisingly not really any good documentation on it though so if I wasn't in a hurry to get it installed I would post more pictures.
When I get around to a GT3 delete then I plan on figuring out some kind of flip-out phone mount or something that will place the phone horizontally below the DIN but hide when I don't want it
I always thought about putting some sort of magnet behind the delete and a mount or case that just sticks to it. Then you could have nav up on your phone below if needed and remove it when you don't want anything there.
That's a great idea. Those supermagnets Home Depot stocks (in various sizes) are incredibly strong -- plunk them behind the dash and a phone should stick through the dash surface.
I built a wall mounted bottle opener that has a few tiny supermagnets buried in the wood on the opposite side of the opener, and the magnets are strong enough to catch the caps through the wood as they fall. They are incredibly strong even thought they are smaller than a dime.
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Since this has been my only car for about 6 months and my wife was on the verge of leaving me, I overpaid for a practical daily on BAT:
I bought new tires and refinished the wheel faces
In my quest to remove all of the lightwood in the car and replace the scuffed soft touch cinnamon center console I:
bought a GT3 console delete (thanks
@Gert
at Carnewal!)
bought a NOS black hand brake assembly
bought a low mile complete center console, need to find a black ash tray
bought a black shift boot
Now I need to find a trashed shift boot so I can steal the trim/bezel (I guess?)
and a steering wheel, should be set at that point. Momo offers a custom service with "Cigar" colored leather that might go well with Cinnamon but its big money IMO, might just go with an OEM cup Atiwe instead:
https://www.gaudinporscheparts.com/o...000043163006xl
Then I'll look for coilovers (and wheel spacers) and be done outside of maintenance I think
I think its super cool for $500, and cheap for OEM Porsche.
Atiwe has a great reputation and you just don't see a lot of them.
looks like it may take an off-the-shelf 6 bolt adapter, which is OK with me
Worktruck, damn glad you are back jn the saddle! Congrats on the new family car as well! If your wife is like my wife, she has no interest in driving my 996. So...it means free reign with setting the car up.
haha I had custom spec'd bilsteins and fixed back seats in my corvette, I'm not going down that road again. the 911 (in my eyes and use case) is best suited as a GT car and I'm trying to make sure I maintain that comfort level with some OEM+ styling to help preserve resale on the other side.
^^^^ This is my vision too. It's one of the reasons I went with a targa, to make the space behind the seats more accessible for travel accouterments. I did go RoW M030 and Koni Sports, but to be honest that seems to have made the car *more* comfortable. There's less unnecessary movement and less abruptness when hitting sharp changes such as potholes.
I did M030 springs only.
@Gert
helped me spec it. No changes to the sway bars. The Koni Sports are adjustable and start out at a softer setting than the the M030 shocks according to him. So it's a way to get the ride height where it belongs (IMESHO) without turning the car into a track beast with 1/4" of suspension travel. So far -- it's early still -- I'm completely on board. Next week I'm starting out on a 3.5K mile road trip, that should tell the tale.
My concerns with the M030 is cost vs coilovers, and the fact that I want adjustability because OTS springs seem to never be "just right"
this H&R rideheight looks great but maybe the front could be a bit lower? or rear raised??
thanks, I'm really enjoying it, but I had another 75k mile one several years ago that I paid 7500$ for so its a hard pill to swallow in the current resale landscape
Eh, hindsight is always 20/20. Shoulda, woulda, coulda. I have to remind myself that you just do what is best in the moment.
What color is the Touring btw? Almost looks like Avus?
I was thinking Le Mans Blue but whatever it is, I love it.
My e39 is about to hit 65k miles and I plan on keeping it until at least 100k. The e39 and e46 were the last of the good BMWs.
I had an E39 sedan, silver on black with manual transmission as my beater on my last tour in Germany. I put 19 inch BBS LM replicas on it. Car looked good and drove nice as well. I had a deal to sell it to a co-worker when I was leaving and let him borrow it while I was on a short trip out of town. To repay my kindess, he ends up saying it died on him while he was driving and oh by the way he didn't want it anymore since it was now broken. It wasn't worth the cost/effort to repair, so I sold the rims and junked the car then returned to the USA.
Had an 84 euro 750il, had an 85 Eurospec M635CSI, then had two 90s m3s, a Dakar yellow coupe and latter on a blue sedan. For two years I purchased restored them and sold bmws, I always preferred the eurospec ones, but did plenty on 80s m5s, 535is, 635s. In 09 we purchased a 335 i with the n54 engine and that thing was always at the shop, injectors, high pressure fuel pumps, etc. A bunch of times the car wouldn�t start in the garage and had to be towed, the icing on the cake, wife was driving down I10 doing 80 mph, the car went dark. After we paid the repairs the car did it again but miraculously it came back on. No more BMWs for us as the wife�s car, 3 mercedes since. Funny that I have owned 9 Volkswagens and three Mercedes, but that bmw was the only car that gave us problems. If you talk to the germans they�ll tell you that BMWs are ****.
Years of consecutive BMW ownership: 20. Number owned: 5. Days out of service: 0.
That said, I could certainly see the evolution of the brand (it was mostly 3 series, aside from an unfortunate X1 experiment). The E46 wagon was slower, smaller, and less efficient than its successors, but it was the only one that truly felt like a sports car in a regular car suit. Even more so than our M3 which, while brutally fast and competent, is let down by indifferent steering.
I�m always scanning for nice E46s, but aside from the occasional ZHP, they are all trashed, rusted out hoopties now.
a couple years ago I was shopping for ZHPs. Test drove maybe half a dozen and they were all BEAT. And of course the sellers "knew what they had"
I ended up with a W210 E55 AMG.
Fast but very boring
For me: Years of consecutive BMW ownership 26. Number owned: 6. Days out of service: 0.
At some point during Covid I decided I needed to have another cabriolet in my life before the DMV decided that I'm too old for a license. E46 M3s and 330 ZHPs are on list but as noted, good ones are few and far between. The fact that I don't want black or silver doesn't help. To further complicate things, since it's a cab, I don't want a dark interior either. Because I'm an idiot AND a glutton for punishment, I've added the SL55 AMG to the list.
That's because they're missing two cylinders.
Yeah, my search is for either a blue or red manual coupe, so you can imagine how that is going.
NGL, Mercedes have interested me more and more over the past years. How's the SL55? I remember the old Top Gear where Jeremy drove his. Seems like an awesome piece of machinery.
OP, sorry for the thread hijack.
You must be getting old too
Seriously though, my parents were Mercedes people and I had always thought of them as old geezer cars. Now that
I'm
eligible for an AARP card, not so much.
I've narrowed my search to model years 2006-08 although I would consider the *right* earlier car. The scary part of these cars is having to repair something on the 'Active Body Control' suspension. Fixing anything on the retraceable hardtop doesn't look fun either.
I shopped SLs pretty hard a few years ago. My sweet spot was the SL550 with round headlights, I think that was only one year. The ABC suspension can be costly if you go OE but there are reliable rebuild outfits that don't take your left ******** to pay for. The suspension works REALLY well too.
Yeah if the e30 m3 had 2 more cylinders imagine what it could have accomplished even more success then the most wins of any hardtop
even as a 4 cylinder
whats up losers
just ordered some parts
rotors/pads
H&R sports
17/20mm spacers
last couple pieces to swap all my center console over to black:
have a lot of prep work to do before the dragon at the end of the month
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out of the blue my wife sent me the baby blue 735i picture, we went that evening to watch a canelo �lvarez May weather fight. Those 735is of the 80s were tank super reliable cars. I had a silver one that I sold with over half a million miles original engine, yea I had to repair the tranny on that one. Anyway as a personal car I also had a euro 84 745i, that car even had a phone in it, , turbo after 70 mph awesome cruising car. Now moving to today , I�ll be looking at this Ruf GT2 Saturday. That�s a rare and awesome car watch the driving video.
You need a pilots license to drive this thing.
I restored this car. Drove it for six months and then I sold it. Cream puff. That was 10 years ago.
No cars and coffee for me on Saturday.
Had a vibration in the front, force rebalance and vuola gone. Since my wheels are black they put black weights on them.
I looked really hard at 240s but they are just too old for what I wanted a wagon for. I'd still love one to build though
This is one of my favorite volvo wagon builds too
http://www.speedhunters.com/2013/07/...ike-any-other/
Damn that Volvo is pure sexiness. I'm a huge wagon proponent and it's a shame so few are available. Also loving the wheels. They look like BBS CHR? One of my all time favorites. Your white BMW wagon is money.
But but but it's not a wagon anymore. I use my E350 kombi to haul bags of mulch, my wife's bicycle, 4 gas cans, groceries. It all fits. I purposely sought out one with MB-Tex rather than leather because a wagon hauls stuff. I picked up 8-foot lumber with it a couple of weeks ago. Last year I used it to haul some things to a distant location. It took me and the stuff there and back in style, speed, comfort and safety.
To me the cool thing about a Volvo or Mercedes wagon is that it is a Volvo or a Mercedes, with all of those makers' unique qualities and features, AND it has a huge box back end which makes it just stupid useful.
It's cool that someone made a race car out of a wagon -- I guess -- but it's not a wagon anymore.
good progress on the fronts, followed the Norwegian car guys YT video to swap springs and it was super simple.
about to start the rears today so I can make it to c&c by Saturday for a longer test drive before the dragon next week.
that fitment is with a 17mm spacer in the front. Have 20s for the rear
So far so good, but I don't drive it much and when I do I don't exactly put it through the paces.
I had 400$ a corner super sports on my corvette and I hated how much money I spent on them. Total waste
thanks!
I was a little concerned as I hadn't found much about 17/20mm combos but so far so good. Most people go with 8mm it looked like and I would've been really disappointed compared to this
I've had those Generals on my car for almost 2 years now. No track time, just daily driving and some twisty roads shenanigans. For the price, about $800 today, I think they are fantastic and would recommend them for a daily driver. I don't find them loud and grip is pretty decent. In hard cornering I can feel them slowly let loose but have never had them completely go out on me. It's about a $500 premium to move up to Michelin PS4S, which I'm itching to try and see what the fuss is all about.
After having a serious blow out on a 3k set of Michelin 4s on my 911 2 weeks ago when I found out that a pair of 295s would cost me $900 I switched to a set of general that I had on another set they had only about 500 miles on then I have to say they ride and stick beautifully and I won’t miss the Michelin
Got the rear springs on yesterday, only took about ~2hrs all in, I'd say even easier than the fronts.
Just need to finish the pads and rotors and I'll be back on the ground
I do not actually lol. I thought I had some decent ones but I don't. I'll get some nice ones soon!
Thanks dude! I'm really happy with how it turned out. not too crazy, ride is surprisingly compliant too.
Speaking of the interior
I had bought everything needed to convert over to a black center console/shifter/ebrake etc and after this weekend I think I finally fell in love with the wood. The color doesn't lend itself well to that "racer look" and I'm really liking the OEM+ look of the spacers and lowering springs. So I think I'm going to sell that whole setup
because I'm not a fan of the feel of a wood steering wheel/shifter, and the replacements if they begin cracking are INSANELY expensive.
but I've come to appreciate the aesthetic
