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YOUR RESEARCHPrice for LN Retrofit/Clutch
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I believe, irrespective of whether it's a solution or a retrofit, if the shop is a certified installer of FSI/LNE IMS products, they have to follow the protocols for inspection and pre-qualification of the engine which includes cutting the filter open to check for debris, dropping the sump pan to check for metal and scoping of the cylinder bores.
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I believe, irrespective of whether it's a solution or a retrofit, if the shop is a certified installer of FSI/LNE IMS products, they have to follow the protocols for inspection and pre-qualification of the engine which includes cutting the filter open to check for debris, dropping the sump pan to check for metal and scoping of the cylinder bores.
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I didn't mind as they let me use my oil and spin on filter adapter and didn't charge extra labor there.
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Check debris, dropping the sump pan
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I believe, irrespective of whether it's a solution or a retrofit, if the shop is a certified installer of FSI/LNE IMS products, they have to follow the protocols for inspection and pre-qualification of the engine which includes cutting the filter open to check for debris, dropping the sump pan to check for metal and scoping of the cylinder bores.
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I believe, irrespective of whether it's a solution or a retrofit, if the shop is a certified installer of FSI/LNE IMS products, they have to follow the protocols for inspection and pre-qualification of the engine which includes cutting the filter open to check for debris, dropping the sump pan to check for metal and scoping of the cylinder bores.
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I've called around to some shops local to me, and most are quoting $4500-$5000 for a clutch and the LN IMS Retrofit. Seems high to me. Is that the going rate right now?
Where are you located? Does the clutch job include a new flywheel? I'm in DC and paid a bit over $4k for LN IMS, clutch, flywheel and RMS. I provided my own oil and spin on filter upgrade. The LN IMS pricing has been a bit all over the place. I paid $679 in Nov 2020. Recently it shot up to $900 and now is on sale $809.
I would think for that price you could get the LN IMS Solution and everything else (clutch/flywheel/RMS) done but maybe prices have gone up. Maybe some other Nashville RL will chime in
That would be a tall ask I'd say. With the Solution being around 1800 - 1900 buscks alone. Adding the clutch and flywheel will get you close to the $4k number these days not including the labor. Seems like not only 996 prices are on the rise! Parts too!
That sounds about right I got a quote for 5ish for IMS/RMS/Clutch and ended up out the door for a little less than 7, 2 years ago after all the "F it do it while I'm in there stuff". TBH honest this belongs in the dumb things I bought thread, there was nothing wrong with the bearing it's hype. I did need a new clutch & RMS though.
FWIW LN approved installer replaced clutch (Sachs 3pc kit), AOS, RMS, IMSB retrofit dual row, magnetic drain plug, LN spin on adapter, and a few other various items for $3,400 on mine in 2017.
Unfortunately no, Marengo OH. However, I can't imagine just being in Nashville makes the job cost $1,000 - $1,500 more.
I'd use it as a data point to try and negotiate if you really can't find anyone quoting under $4,500. Not sure how far you can expand your search for a shop, might cost a little more in gas but save in the long run.
I'd always ask for a breakdown of the bill in parts and labor. Its normal for shops to tag on some margin to parts. My shop was nice enough to do that and separate it by job too. For example I know they charged me $680 for the LN IMS and a few extra bucks for the flywheel. I didn't mind as they let me use my oil and spin on filter adapter and didn't charge extra labor there. This was November of 2020 but I'm not surprised costs rising since 2017.
I had all this done last month at an LN certified shop here in Texas. All in with PreQualification inspection, IMS Solution, Clutch, RMS, AOS, oil change and labor was right at $5k.
The IMS bearing was fine but I wanted the solution for peace of mind and resale value down the road just in case I ever need to sell this thing which I hope won�t be anytime soon.
OP Can you specify if is this an LN retrofit IMS or the "The Solution"? Makes a big difference. If the shop you are using is following FSI's prequalification process, you also need to understand your outlay if you do not meet the prequal requirements after they've taken a look.
I believe, irrespective of whether it's a solution or a retrofit, if the shop is a certified installer of FSI/LNE IMS products, they have to follow the protocols for inspection and pre-qualification of the engine which includes cutting the filter open to check for debris, dropping the sump pan to check for metal and scoping of the cylinder bores. Whether or not they find anything at this stage would determine how they move forward. I think as long as the existing IMS hasn't failed, they can still apply an IMS product to the engine but you won't have a warranty on your new bearing/solution if they find metal or scoring during the pre-qual. According to the web site, if the existing IMS has already failed, they're not supposed to install any kind of LNE product to the car and it must be registered by VIN with LNE as a car that has failed inspection.
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