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does an AC refill need a system bleed?!

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Check any leaks in the system

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This removes any moisture (and could remove some oil) and allows the tech to check for any leaks in the system.

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Lubricate a/c or do i somehow have

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contain oil- is there enough oil in these cans to lubricate the A/C or do I somehow have to inject some extra in?

does an AC refill need a system bleed?!

Recommend by peilican)

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kits such as this (recommended by Peilican)

does an AC refill need a system bleed?!

Replace condensers, drier etc

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I have the parts on order, I have no issue taking off the bumper, replacing the condensers, drier etc.

does an AC refill need a system bleed?!

Test a/c system

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There is an A/C test procedure in the factory manual that details the steps to test the A/C system and which gives a graph that given the ambient temperature what the A/C vent air temperature should be from IIRC the center dash vents.

does an AC refill need a system bleed?!
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Check any leaks in the system

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This removes any moisture (and could remove some oil) and allows the tech to check for any leaks in the system.

does an AC refill need a system bleed?!

Lubricate a/c or do i somehow have

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contain oil- is there enough oil in these cans to lubricate the A/C or do I somehow have to inject some extra in?

does an AC refill need a system bleed?!

Recommend by peilican)

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kits such as this (recommended by Peilican)

does an AC refill need a system bleed?!

Replace condensers, drier etc

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I have the parts on order, I have no issue taking off the bumper, replacing the condensers, drier etc.

does an AC refill need a system bleed?!

Test a/c system

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There is an A/C test procedure in the factory manual that details the steps to test the A/C system and which gives a graph that given the ambient temperature what the A/C vent air temperature should be from IIRC the center dash vents.

does an AC refill need a system bleed?!

Test procedure in the factory manual

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There is an A/C test procedure in the factory manual that details the steps to test the A/C system and which gives a graph that given the ambient temperature what the A/C vent air temperature should be from IIRC the center dash vents.

does an AC refill need a system bleed?!

Use machine

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I read that I think the pro's use a machine to suck out the air before filling

does an AC refill need a system bleed?!

Use vacuum machine

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As others have suggested you are better off taking the car to a shop equipped to properly evacuate the A/C using a vacuum machine.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

My A/C condenser needs replacing. It's rotten, so consequently also the whole system is totally devoid of Gas! I have the parts on order, I have no issue taking off the bumper, replacing the condensers, drier etc. My question is on the refill: Once all reassembled the whole plumbing will be full of air! so what happens to that air when I refill? Is there a bleed valve somewhere? Also the system needs oil. kits such as this (recommended by Peilican) http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarti..._med/pic01.jpg contain oil- is there enough oil in these cans to lubricate the A/C or do I somehow have to inject some extra in? thanks!

POST 2 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I read that I think the pro's use a machine to suck out the air before filling

POST 3Original post

If you are replacing all that you might as well. These cars usually require a top off every so many years.

POST 4Original post

If there's no gas and little oil left, there's no vacuum so thers's air in the system. Atmospheric air has moisture, which will make your AC inefficient. You want to vacuum the system before recharging it with refrigerant.

POST 5Original post

Bring it to a professional, they will evacuate the system with a vacuum pump, then charge it with the correct weight of refrigerant and it might need some oil also. In the US, it's about $150 labor for this. Necessary step and you don't have the tools or knowledge. Good luck!

POST 6Original post

Don't even bother fooling with it if you aren't going to pull a vacuum on it. I would recommend you get it all assembled and have a professional pull a vacuum and recharge it.

POST 7Original post

I believe the more recent freon charging machines automatically vacuum the system and then charge it with fresh freon when hooked up.

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As others have suggested you are better off taking the car to a shop equipped to properly evacuate the A/C using a vacuum machine. This removes any moisture (and could remove some oil) and allows the tech to check for any leaks in the system. After 30 minutes to 1 hour at vacuum (different car models have different call outs) the tech will then recharge the system with the proper amount of refrigerant and return any oil to the system plus some to make up for the oil that was lost with the replacement of the condenser. In its factory reference manuals Porsche publishes a chart of how much oil is "lost" when replacing an A/C system component and this amount of oil must be added to the system. After the above then the system should be tested to ensure it performs up to spec. There is an A/C test procedure in the factory manual that details the steps to test the A/C system and which gives a graph that given the ambient temperature what the A/C vent air temperature should be from IIRC the center dash vents.

POST 10Original post

Also if your open system had been exposed to the atmosphere for sometime, the dryer should also be replaced.

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