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Why is my engine missing a serial number?

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YOUR RESEARCHWhy is my engine missing a serial number?

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Replace ims

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I had the IMS replaced with an LN and a double row came out so it's not a newer rebuilt motor with a single or big bearing.

Why is my engine missing a serial number?
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Leading evidence: 'Replace ims' (no explicit attributable resolution; this is a reported action or suggestion). Across 1 matching discussions, the most frequently mentioned possible cause is 'she was stolen' (1 discussions; 0 report identifying it and 1 suggest it). The most frequently discussed action is 'Replace ims' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.

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Replace just the engine case

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

I've discovered that when Porsche dealers or indys replaced just the engine case, that serial numbers were not used.

Why is my engine missing a serial number?

she was stolen

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Well I don't truly suspect she was stolen.

Why is my engine missing a serial number?

Use some grime

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You could try using some grime to try and fill in the digits, then wipe it off lightly, exposing them.

Why is my engine missing a serial number?
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Replace ims

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

I had the IMS replaced with an LN and a double row came out so it's not a newer rebuilt motor with a single or big bearing.

Why is my engine missing a serial number?

Replace just the engine case

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

I've discovered that when Porsche dealers or indys replaced just the engine case, that serial numbers were not used.

Why is my engine missing a serial number?

Use some grime

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You could try using some grime to try and fill in the digits, then wipe it off lightly, exposing them.

Why is my engine missing a serial number?
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she was stolen

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Suspected cause · Original poster

Well I don't truly suspect she was stolen.

Why is my engine missing a serial number?
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I understand that the "AT" means it's a replacement engine from Porsche, but why are the rest of the digits missing?

POST 3Original post

Congratulations on your receipt of stolen property?

POST 4 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 12595529

Not sure if serious or joking....

POST 6Original post

Quotes source post: 12595534

If you knew me you would. Of course joking. I'm puzzled myself. Weird.

POST 7Original post

The S/N on mine was stamped dot-matrix style so lightly that I had to wipe it down, then look very closely with a light shining at an angle in order to see it. It's hard to tell if yours is even there at all. You could try using some grime to try and fill in the digits, then wipe it off lightly, exposing them.

POST 8Original post

Engine was never designated to a specific car, just rebuilt for replacement duty.

POST 9Original post

Mine has AT in it, but I still have a serial number. Does this mean it is a remanufactured motor specifically for my car?

POST 10Original post

Quotes source post: 12595731

All the ones I've seen has the dot matrix style script. The block that OP has seems a bit suspicious...

POST 11Original post

Your engine was used in a murder so numbers were ground off. Seriously clean it off bet you'll find them

POST 12Original post

Quotes source post: 12596209

EXACTLY what I was thinking!

POST 13 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source posts: 12596209, 12595731

I'm starting to believe this.... I did this with some black grease and there isn't any other script on the tab/plate. I had the IMS replaced with an LN and a double row came out so it's not a newer rebuilt motor with a single or big bearing. I'm guessing this means it was rebuilt many years ago. So strange.

POST 14Original post

Another hypothesis: Could it mean that the engine was remanufactured around 99 or early 2000, hence getting the dual row which was pretty well all you could get as an IMSB at the time?

POST 15Original post

Quotes source post: 12596001

Does the case have any blue paint on it?

POST 16 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 12597091

Not from what I can see. Do you know where it would be in particular?

POST 17Original post

Maybe the lack of numbers is related to your wing issue. You got yourself one bastard 996 there.

POST 18 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 12597368

Ha! Tell me about it. Despite that she sure does get lots of compliments, though. In a lot full of Porsches she's the one that the random kid is getting his picture taken with. He doesn't know she gets around....

POST 19Original post

Looks like the plate was previously media blasted or there is an unusual amount of corrosion. I'm going with blasted to remove the SN since it was stolen. Is this the only place with the engine SN?

POST 20 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 12598556

Well I don't truly suspect she was stolen. The car was a Porsche lease from 99 to 03 and then the second owner had her until January 2015, then me. I was recently able to find some of her Porsche dealer service history dating back to 2004. I suspect the 2nd owner had an engine issue out of warranty and had a local indy shop do a rebuild. From what I've been able to find, the previous owner was a gentleman named Trung Mai, who is one of the founders of the Sonos speaker company. Unfortunately I've not been able to find a way to get ahold of him. The Santa Barbara PCA has no record of him or his wife. I believe this spot on the engine is the only location for the serial number. At least that's all I've been able to find on the interwebs.

POST 21Original post

Quotes source post: 12597368

Yeah that's what I was thinking too. Since the PO was Asian, it wouldn't surprise me if the motor was stolen if motor swap/repair was done at an Asian Indy with or without PO's knowledge. Don't ask me how I know...

POST 23 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 12598881

I wanna hear the story too! On a side note, I think another poster was correct. I've discovered that when Porsche dealers or indys replaced just the engine case, that serial numbers were not used. My car was a late '98 build so it's possible it suffered from the porous block issue and the case was replaced at some point.

POST 24Original post

Quotes source post: 12598723

Yes, yes, please respond with experience. I wouldn't be a bit surprised to hear some crappy gray market short block crap is lurking around.

POST 25Original post

Thats a very early replacement engine that was based from a universal crankcase, for M96.01 or M96.02.

POST 26 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Jake to save the day. Thanks!

POST 27Original post

Well, glad that is solved. Now, about that wing.

POST 28 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 12601786

alpine003 and I chatted a fair amount about it via PM. Apparently he's dealt with replica wings quite a bit. My wing has none of the tell-tale signs of a replica aside from missing the France wording. The material appears to be correct, the intakes are are correct, the inlaid metal nuts are proper, the metal intake grill and attachment screw are correct, the gurney lip, the adjustable wing with four hex head screws, etc. I'm not sure I'll ever figure that mystery out.

POST 29Original post

Quotes source post: 12602019

Yeah seems very strange indeed. Only theory I have at this point was that it was either repainted or had some bodywork done where the "Made in France" was either covered up or removed somehow. He even showed me the inside which has the tell tale signs of smooth fiberglass of the OEM and not the rough straw natured surface of replicas.

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